Play on a RTX4090 in 3Dvision DX9 and Geo11 DX9 Mode REVIEW

[ZeGURU69]

Hello,

I upgraded to an RTX4090 a short time ago and wanted to share my thoughts on how 3D Vision games work on this graphics card. There aren't that many testimonials on the forum.

My config is: Intel 12700KF / RTX4090 / 32 GB DDR4 3600 Mhz

I use an Optoma UHD42 which is Frame Sequential compatible in 1080p120 (but also tab, sbs and framepacking). I used frame sequential for dx9 tests and tab when it didn't work in dx9.

I used the 531.61 driver (studio driver version). For the 3D Vision drivers I went through 3Dfix manager to install the 3DVISION 425.31 drivers. This results in breaking the Nvidia control panel (save does not work on the 3D Vision part and everything is slow). The DCH fix proposed on the forum no longer works (I had already managed to make it work at one time but there nothing to do). On the other hand, this has no impact on the operation of 3D and all the options of the 3DVISION NVidia panel are present in 3DFixManager (which must therefore be installed).

Update : I'm now using the latest 546.17 drivers (Game Ready Driver) and haven't seen any particular problems.

Dx9 Games :

No problem to report, I just had to launch a game via 3dfix manager to unlock 3D (it didn't launch in 3D on steam) and then everything starts in 3D via steam. There are always problems related to the version of windows but I was able to launch almost all the DX9 games. Note that saving convergence no longer works with nvidia shortcuts.

Some games do not stereosize, the solution on this link, viewtopic.php?t=23574 To put on the default profile / the game profile / see create a profile for the game.

Another problem often encountered in dx9 games is that they do not want to go to 120Hz. The solution is here, https://helixmod.blogspot.com/2013/02/c ... hertz.html

With these two tips, almost all DX9 games are functional. So there is no more problem running DX9 games on a 4090 than on a 2080 Ti. They run exactly the same (not better but not worse).

Dx11 Games :

To make geo11 work in dx9 mode, I just put the 3 dlls + d3dxdm with the nvidia_dx9 option (by modifying force_stereo to 2 in dx3d)

At first I focused on the latest geo11 version (0.6.90) released on the forum which was a mistake because it does not work very well in DX9 mode.

The version I've used the most is 0.6.56 which works for about 90% of games on UE4! Considering everything I've read about dx9 mode, I didn't think so many games were going to work. From what I could see, all the games work perfectly with a better level of fluidity than on a 2080 Ti. The Witcher 3 with the latest update is running in full detail at 60 fps in Novigrad

The only game where I don't reach constant 60 fps is The Medium which ran at 30 fps when the screen was split (we're closer to 50 with the 4090).

It is preferable to display the FPS counter which allows you to know directly if the 3D has started (oddly Msi afterburner causes a lot of FPS to be lost when it is activated...). Generally, if the counter is at 120, there is a problem with the exclusive fullscreen mode essential for 3D display (but geo11's dx9 mode works).

On Unreal games be careful to deactivate the dlss options otherwise the 3D is only rendered in one eye.

You really have to insist that certain games go into fullscreen, for unity games you have to do alt+enter two times to put the game in windowed and back in fullscreen and use 2 to 3 times alt+T so that 3D is coming. For UE4 games, go to the graphics menu to switch between full screen and windowed mode and use Alt+T if there is no stereo. Some games require 3D to be enabled when started with ALT+T

Unity games work pretty well but you need several versions of geo11 to make them work. I tested them mainly on geo11 0.6.24 because I was limited to 25 fps on the other versions (I had activated VSync synchronization in Nvidia, a priori putting the default option fixes the problem but not always. ..)

Unity games are very dark (not all but many). The solution is to change the color settings in the Nvidia panel and set the gamma to +2.2. It's not perfect but it's still not bad!

Vulkan Games :

Vulkan games do not work with the last version of Vk3dvision. I only tested Doom Eternal (which worked before) but I have a return under windows in 3DVISION mode. According to Helifax, this is a problem with the DX9 path in the Nvidia driver. Hope this is easily fixable.

But version VK3Dvision 4.19.22 works ! On the other hand, I realized that if I didn't superimpose MSI afterburner, one eye flashes (nothing serious but it's weird). You can download it via this link, https://github.com/helifax/Vk3DVision-Public/releases

Update : The Vk3dvision drivers are working again, so you can use the latest version (4.22.16).

DSR :

Since drivers 460.79, DSR no longer works with 3Dvision, so it's no longer possible to use this technology for RTX4xxx. If you try to use it, you'll only see a quarter of the image. Despite my best efforts, I haven't found a way to use it with 3Dvision.

However, it works well with TAB (or SBS) mode.

I focused on the games already installed on my computer and so there are a lot of small games and I did not necessarily test all the big games:

Games running 3D DX9 with 06.6.56 :

- A Juggler's Tale
- A tale of paper
- Apsuvol
- Batman The Telltale Serie
- Batman Arkham Asylum, City and Origin work on DX9
- Batman Arkham Knight (Tested on 0.6.90 without bug texture the game launches in the background and if I click on it during the logos, it crashes in dx9 mode. But if I wait until it reaches the main menu, the game runs normally or add -nologo on Steam)
- Biomutant
- blair witch
- Blue Fire
- Borderland 3 (delete line "include = ShaderFixes\help.ini" in d3dx.ini)
- Chernobylite
- Conarium
- Control (with 0.6.78, convergence locked but modifiable on dx3dm.ini with value dm_min_convergence_absolute_override)
- Conway
- Dakar 18
- Darksider Warmastered edition (work only on 0.6.58, dark need gamma at 2.2 on nvidia panel, no 3D or convergence blocked with other version)
- Darksiders Genesis
- Day Dream Prologue
- Divinity Original Sin 2
- Doom eternal (work with Vk3dvision 4.19.22)
- DreamChapter (dont work with 0.6.56 but work with 0.6.90)
- Dreamscaper
- Find Yourself
- Gamedec
- Genesis Black
- Ghost Runner
- God of war (original fix from masterotaku)
- Gothic Playable
- Gylt
- Hello Neighbor
- Hot Wheels Unleached (work with 0.6.90, no test other version)
- Hot Wheels Unleached 2 (disable EAC to play with 3D fix)
- Layer of fear 2
- Light Cat (work with 0.6.90, no test other version)
- Little Nightmare
- Little Nightmare 2
- Maize
- Medium
- Miasma Chronique
- Never again
- Nier Automata (work only with 0.6.10)
- Paradise Lost
- Psychonauts 2
- Pumpkin Jack
- Rad Rodgers
- Rage 2 (with VK3dvision 4.19.19)
- Redout
- Remothered - Tormented Fathers (work with 0.6.24, with 0.6.56 limited to 25 fps)
- Shadow of war (work with 0.6.90, no test other version)
- Spyro trilogy
- Submerged
- Submerged Hidden Depth
- System Shock Demo
- The Ascent
- The End
- The Forest (work with 0.6.90, no test other version)
- The Outer World Standard Edition (The Spacer Choice Edition doesn't work on dx11 (crash))
- The Witcher 3 (with 0.6.24 otherwize limited fps at 25 same with vsync disable)
- The Witcher 3 with fix from masterotaku
- Trail out
- Trek To Yomi
- Unravel
- Valley
- Weird West
- What Remains of Edith Finch

Unity game with 0.6.24 and need more gamma (+2.2 in nvidia panel)

- Solasta
- Blackbook
- Mauden
- Donjon of Naheulbeuk
- The Slater
- Black Mirror
- Gris
- Madison
- Bendy
- My friend pedro (no need extra light)
- Syberia 3 (don't work with 0.6.24 but work with 0.6.90)
- Through the wood (don't work with 0.6.24 but work with 0.6.15)
- The Signifier (only work with 0.6.107)
- Tail of Iron (only work with 0.6.58, no need extra light)

Work but texture flashing (decor elements disappear depending on the position of the camera). These games are playable despite everything and the problem is also present without geo11 but less pronounced

- The Entropy Center (same with tab, defect also present in 3Dvision but less pronounced)
- Sherlok Holmes Chap 1 (same with tab, work normally without geo11)
- Atomic Heart (same with tab, don't know in regular 3dvision) - no longer works with latest update

Work with 3D bug

- Far Changing Tides (work only with 0.6.56 problem reflect water not present on regular 3Dvision and on tab with 0.6.109)
- Starwar Fallen order (work only with older version geo11 (crash with newer), fps not reach 60, momentary white flash on the whole screen and a lot of 3D bug ...)
- Echo (white/black flash)
- Grounded (work with 0.6.90 but some menus have white flashes)

3D render only one eye :

- Succubus (Same with tab, I suspect a hidden dlss option)

Caps to 30 fps :

- Metro Exodus (work at 60 with tab, disabling vsync helps but game doesn't reach 60 fps)
- Truberbrook (Unity game, only work with 0.6.58, limited to 25 fps, no need extra light)

Crash :

- Sackboy (crash with message "DX11 feature level 10.0 is required to run engine",work in tab)
- hitman (work with tab)
- Mirror Edge Catalyst (work with tab)
- Resident Evil 3 (work with tab)
- Supraland (don't work with tab)
- Supraland - six inches under (don't work with tab)
- Sekiro (black screen with counter fps, don't work with tab)
- Rise Son of Rome (don't work with tab)
- Quake 2 RTX (don't work with tab)
- Need for speed Payback (no 3D with most version or crash with 58/109 work with tab)
- Need for speed The run (no 3D with most version or crash with 15/58/104 work with tab)
- Lord of the ring Gollum (crash with message "DX11 feature level 10.0 is required to run engine",don't work in tab)
- The Callisto Protocol (crash, work with tab DSR 4x)

Convergence locked :

- Mass Effect Legendary (same with tab)

No 3D :

- Far Lone Sails (no 3D with tab)
- Titantfall 2 (no 3D with tab)
- Halo Masterchief
- The layer of fear (work on tab only on 0.6.15, seem not set to fullscreen)
- Lightmatter (seem not set to fullscreen, work with tab)

In the end, I'm quite satisfied with the 3D Vision with a 4090. Out of 80 games tested, 67 launch in 3D (only 7 less than in tab/dx11) and only one problem is due to the dx9 mode (metro exodus)

If we count the dx9 games that I tested, more than 90% of the games that I launched run on this configuration and they run better (for dx11 games)! Almost all games fixed with the unity and UE universal fixes work.

I hope this little guide for 3Dvision games on new graphics cards can be useful to you and I hope that I will have feedback that will make it possible to make even more games work with geo11 DX9. In any case, a big thank you to the developers of this driver !!!

[3DNovice]

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[ZeGURU69]

Hi 3DNovice,

Unfortunately, I don't remember ever getting a game to work in 3Dvision with fullscreen optimizations disabled (maybe it happened but a long time ago). I just tested and it doesn't work on both games which seem to refuse to go full screen.

If I understand correctly, the modification of Kai on the dll is active on version 0.6.38? None of the games I tested work specifically on this version. I will have to do some tests again.

Finally, most Unity games running in 3D work on geo11 dx9 (with this dark screen problem) but your information may still be useful.

[3DNovice]

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[ZeGURU69]

Yes, I think I misunderstood

I will investigate this further with the links you gave and test on both games which seem not to work due to a fullscreen issue.

However, I have never seen a release note for the geo11 drivers. I just downloaded v0.6.56 from helixmod and the release note only mentions the version number. For 0.6.38 you mention that it is enabled in d3dx.ini, you have to make a modification in the ini ?

[Lysander]

There's a thread about this here, too viewtopic.php?t=26316&sid=81a5787168c77 ... 3&start=40 I'll link there to this post.

"The version I've used the most is 0.6.56 which works for about 90% of games on UE4! Considering everything I've read about dx9 mode, I didn't think so many games were going to work. From what I could see, all the games work perfectly with a better level of fluidity than on a 2080 Ti. The Witcher 3 with the latest update is running in full detail at 60 fps in Novigrad" - I see you tested at 1080, I'd like to see the performance at 1440...

In my tests, yes, most UE4 games worked in DX9 mode I just wanted some verification that the 4090 can overcome even the DX9 performance loss and render most games at 60 with max settings but at 1440.

[ZeGURU69]

All games tested at 1080p. I haven't tested the dx9 mode much on my 2080 Ti but one of the rare games tested - Hot Wheels Unleached - ran at 60 fps on my 2080 Ti but with nasty jerks which completely disappeared on the 4090

Apart from The Medium, I would say that almost all the games I tested run at a constant 60 fps (with the usual jerks due to 3D mode). I also have another exception "My friend pedro" which in 3dvision mode (without geo11 or with) had framerate drops at 30-40 fps which remained on the 4090 (but I think it comes from the game).

[Lysander]

Yeah, I just re-read your original post and saw 1080 and updated my previous post but you beat me to it

So The Medium still has drops at 1080, interesting.

[3DNovice]

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[3DNovice]

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[Dazzawill]

Thankyou very much for your extensive testing and reporting, its much appreciated, in fact some of the best info on here in a long time. Did you use the u4 universal 9.12 fix for your testing and if so, did you change the Geo 11 files to 0.6.56. as you claim they are the best for dx9 output? By default 9.12 comes packaged with 0.6.78 and was wondering if you changed it for improved results.

[ZeGURU69]

Hi Dassawill,

I tested most EU games on 9.12 but some games were tested on older versions because everything was already installed (and I don't feel like this affects how geo11 works). I didn't use the Losti launcher for the geo11 games, I just copied the 0.6.56 dlls into the game directory and changed the force_stereo to 2 in d3dx.ini. Then just launch the game in a normal way. Out of all EU games tested with geo11 in dx9 mode, there is only one (Sackboy) that doesn't work against geo11 dx11/tab mode.

Maybe UE games works well on v0.6.78 but since I focused on 0.6.56, I haven't had a chance to test. I had started my tests on 0.6.90 which did not work almost any game in dx9 mode on UE.

[ZeGURU69]

There's a thread about this here, too viewtopic.php?t=26316&sid=81a5787168c77 ... 3&start=40 I'll link there to this post.

"The version I've used the most is 0.6.56 which works for about 90% of games on UE4! Considering everything I've read about dx9 mode, I didn't think so many games were going to work. From what I could see, all the games work perfectly with a better level of fluidity than on a 2080 Ti. The Witcher 3 with the latest update is running in full detail at 60 fps in Novigrad" - I see you tested at 1080, I'd like to see the performance at 1440...

In my tests, yes, most UE4 games worked in DX9 mode I just wanted some verification that the 4090 can overcome even the DX9 performance loss and render most games at 60 with max settings but at 1440.

I think the 4090 can run most games at 1440p in 3Dvision with 60 fps but without having tested it, I can't say for sure. I would try with the DSR but I seem to have read that it doesn't work with geo11

[ZeGURU69]

I updated the original post to report that Vulkan games work (at least Doom Eternal but I think the others should work too). The latest version no longer works with 3Dvision, so you have to use 4.19.22

[Dazzawill]

Thanks for your reply. Ive found, performance wise, the dx9 output on Vulkan games has way better performance than geo-11 dx9 output.

[3DNovice]

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[ZeGURU69]

Thanks for your reply. Ive found, performance wise, the dx9 output on Vulkan games has way better performance than geo-11 dx9 output.

The difference in performance is not noticeable on a 4090. You can't really compare the two modes since you can't use geo11 on Vulkan games.

I didn't test Detroit Become Human on the 4090 but on a 2080 Ti, I had areas where I couldn't reach 60 fps.

[russellk]

@ZeGURU69 Thanks for spending your time testing and posting this. Thanks to the others for adding more information as well. It's the most useful single post I've read here for a long time.

[aofelix]

Thanks mate.
I have a 4090 and enjoying it.

How slow does it make NVIDIa control panel?
I use triple LG OLED C6s.. so I have to enable NVIDIA surround a lot and disable it when not in use. Is there any work around that I can use 3D without making NCP super glitchy?

[ZeGURU69]

@ZeGURU69 Thanks for spending your time testing and posting this. Thanks to the others for adding more information as well. It's the most useful single post I've read here for a long time.

Thanks for your message, I tried to be as complete as possible and I will try to update the post as I test the games and find solutions

Thanks mate.
I have a 4090 and enjoying it.

How slow does it make NVIDIa control panel?
I use triple LG OLED C6s.. so I have to enable NVIDIA surround a lot and disable it when not in use. Is there any work around that I can use 3D without making NCP super glitchy?

There is a solution explained in this post, viewtopic.php?p=188162&hilit=dch#p188162 I had managed to make it work a while ago but not this time. Maybe I did something wrong, I don't know.

If you manage to do it, let us know !

[aofelix]

thanks. does this mean you cant play newer games as you are now on the older driver?

[ZeGURU69]

With a 4090 it is not possible to use an old driver. I use the 531.61 drivers and to set the 3Dvision part I use 3dfix manager instead of the Nvidia control panel. I have indicated all this on the original post.

[aofelix]

With a 4090 it is not possible to use an old driver. I use the 531.61 drivers and to set the 3Dvision part I use 3dfix manager instead of the Nvidia control panel. I have indicated all this on the original post.

Thanks. I tried this. It didn't detect my JVC N5 projector as a passive 3D display sadly. It showed it as '3D Vision discover'. Wasn't able to enable 3D for it to trigger the output.

[ZeGURU69]

I am not sure if the JVC N5 is frame sequencial compatible (for 3Dvision) but you can already test in tab/sbs with geo11, it seems that the VP is compatible with these modes according to the documentation.

[3DNovice]

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[UnityBeing]

Hello,

I upgraded to an RTX4090 a short time ago and wanted to share my thoughts on how 3D Vision games work on this graphics card. There aren't that many testimonials on the forum.

My config is: Intel 12700KF / RTX4090 / 32 GB DDR4 3600 Mhz

I use an Optoma UHD42 which is Frame Sequential compatible in 1080p120 (but also tab, sbs and framepacking). I used frame sequential for dx9 tests and tab when it didn't work in dx9.

I used the 531.61 driver (studio driver version). For the 3D Vision drivers I went through 3Dfix manager to install the 3DVISION 425.31 drivers. This results in breaking the Nvidia control panel (save does not work on the 3D Vision part and everything is slow). The DCH fix proposed on the forum no longer works (I had already managed to make it work at one time but there nothing to do). On the other hand, this has no impact on the operation of 3D and all the options of the 3DVISION NVidia panel are present in 3DFixManager (which must therefore be installed).

Dx9 Games :

No problem to report, I just had to launch a game via 3dfix manager to unlock 3D (it didn't launch in 3D on steam) and then everything starts in 3D via steam. There are always problems related to the version of windows but I was able to launch almost all the DX9 games. Note that saving convergence no longer works with nvidia shortcuts.

Some games do not stereosize, the solution on this link, viewtopic.php?t=23574 To put on the default profile / the game profile / see create a profile for the game.

Another problem often encountered in dx9 games is that they do not want to go to 120Hz. The solution is here, https://helixmod.blogspot.com/2013/02/c ... hertz.html

With these two tips, almost all DX9 games are functional. So there is no more problem running DX9 games on a 4090 than on a 2080 Ti. They run exactly the same (not better but not worse).

Dx11 Games :

To make geo11 work in dx9 mode, I just put the 3 dlls + d3dxdm with the nvidia_dx9 option (by modifying force_stereo to 2 in dx3d)

At first I focused on the latest geo11 version (0.6.90) released on the forum which was a mistake because it does not work very well in DX9 mode.

The version I've used the most is 0.6.56 which works for about 90% of games on UE4! Considering everything I've read about dx9 mode, I didn't think so many games were going to work. From what I could see, all the games work perfectly with a better level of fluidity than on a 2080 Ti. The Witcher 3 with the latest update is running in full detail at 60 fps in Novigrad

The only game where I don't reach constant 60 fps is The Medium which ran at 30 fps when the screen was split (we're closer to 50 with the 4090).

It is preferable to display the FPS counter which allows you to know directly if the 3D has started (oddly Msi afterburner causes a lot of FPS to be lost when it is activated...). Generally, if the counter is at 120, there is a problem with the exclusive fullscreen mode essential for 3D display (but geo11's dx9 mode works).

On Unreal games be careful to deactivate the dlss options otherwise the 3D is only rendered in one eye.

You really have to insist that certain games go into fullscreen, for unity games you have to do alt+enter two times to put the game in windowed and back in fullscreen and use 2 to 3 times alt+T so that 3D is coming. For UE4 games, go to the graphics menu to switch between full screen and windowed mode and use Alt+T if there is no stereo. Some games require 3D to be enabled when started with ALT+T

Unity games work pretty well but you need several versions of geo11 to make them work. I tested them mainly on geo11 0.6.24 because I was limited to 25 fps on the other versions (I had activated VSync synchronization in Nvidia, a priori putting the default option fixes the problem but not always. ..)

Unity games are very dark (not all but many). The solution is to change the color settings in the Nvidia panel and set the gamma to +2.2. It's not perfect but it's still not bad!

Vulkan Games :

Vulkan games do not work with the last version of Vk3dvision. I only tested Doom Eternal (which worked before) but I have a return under windows in 3DVISION mode. According to Helifax, this is a problem with the DX9 path in the Nvidia driver. Hope this is easily fixable.

But version VK3Dvision 4.19.22 works ! On the other hand, I realized that if I didn't superimpose MSI afterburner, one eye flashes (nothing serious but it's weird). You can download it via this link, https://github.com/helifax/Vk3DVision-Public/releases

I focused on the games already installed on my computer and so there are a lot of small games and I did not necessarily test all the big games:

Games running 3D DX9 with 06.6.56 :

- Submerged
- Submerged Hidden Depth
- The Forest (work with 0.6.90, no test other version)
- Shadow of war (work with 0.6.90, no test other version)
- Hot Wheels Unleached (work with 0.6.90, no test other version)
- Echo
- Light Cat (work with 0.6.90, no test other version)
- Apsuvol
- Gamedec
- Layer of fear 2
- Trek To Yomi
- Atomic Heart
- Weird West
- Psychonauts 2
- Ghost Runner
- blair witch
- Medium
- Paradise Lost
- DreamChapter (dont work with 0.6.56 but work with 0.6.90)
- Nier Automata (work only with 0.6.10)
- Maize
- Gothic Playable
- God of war (original fix from masterotaku)
- Genesis Black
- Find Yourself
- The End
- Dreamscaper
- Day Dream Prologue
- Darksiders Genesis
- Dakar 18
- Spyro trilogy
- The Ascent
- Pumpkin Jack
- Chernobylite
- System Shock Demo
- Blue Fire
- Rad Rodgers
- Divinity Original Sin 2
- Conway
- The Witcher 3 (with 0.6.24 otherwize limited fps at 25 same with vsync disable)
- The Witcher 3 with fix from masterotaku
- Conarium
- A tale of paper
- Biomutant
- Darksider Warmastered edition (work only on 0.6.58, dark need gamma at 2.2 on nvidia panel, no 3D or convergence blocked with other version)
- Doom eternal (work with Vk3dvision 4.19.22)
- Remothered - Tormented Fathers (work with 0.6.24, with 0.6.56 limited to 25 fps)
- Little Nightmare
- Hello Neighbor
- Rage 2 (with VK3dvision 4.19.19)
- Control (with 0.6.78, convergence locked but modifiable on dx3dm.ini with value dm_min_convergence_absolute_override)


Unity game with 0.6.24 and need more gamma (+2.2 in nvidia panel)

- Solasta
- Blackbook
- Mauden
- Donjon of Naheulbeuk
- The Slater
- Black Mirror
- Gris
- Madison
- Bendy
- My friend pedro (no need extra light)
- Syberia 3 (don't work with 0.6.24 but work with 0.6.90)
- Through the wood (don't work with 0.6.24 but work with 0.6.15)
- The Signifier (only work with 0.6.107)
- Tail of Iron (only work with 0.6.58, no need extra light)

Work but texture flashing (decor elements disappear depending on the position of the camera). These games are playable despite everything and the problem is also present without geo11 but less pronounced

- The Entropy Center (same with tab, defect also present in 3Dvision but less pronounced)
- Sherlok Holmes Chap 1 (same with tab, work normally without geo11)
- Atomic Heart (same with tab, don't know in regular 3dvision)

Work with 3D bug

- Far Changing Tides (work only with 0.6.56 problem reflect water not present on regular 3Dvision and on tab with 0.6.109)
- Starwar Fallen order (work only with older version geo11 (crash with newer), fps not reach 60, momentary white flash on the whole screen and a lot of 3D bug ...)

3D render only one eye :

- Succubus (Same with tab, I suspect a hidden dlss option)

Caps to 30 fps :

- Metro Exodus (work at 60 with tab, disabling vsync helps but game doesn't reach 60 fps)
- Truberbrook (Unity game, only work with 0.6.58, limited to 25 fps, no need extra light)

Crash :

- Sackboy (crash with message "DX11 feature level 10.0 is required to run engine",work in tab)
- hitman (work with tab)
- Mirror Edge Catalyst (work with tab)
- Resident Evil 3 (work with tab)
- Supraland (don't work with tab)
- Supraland - six inches under (don't work with tab)
- borderland 3 (don't work with tab)
- Sekiro (black screen with counter fps, don't work with tab)
- Rise Son of Rome (don't work with tab)
- Quake 2 RTX (don't work with tab)
- Need for speed Payback (no 3D with most version or crash with 58/109)
- Need for speed The run (no 3D with most version or crash with 15/58/104)

Convergence locked :

- Mass Effect Legendary (same with tab)

No 3D :

- Far Lone Sails (no 3D with tab)
- Titantfall 2 (no 3D with tab)
- Halo Masterchief
- The layer of fear (work on tab only on 0.6.15, seem not set to fullscreen)
- Lightmatter (seem not set to fullscreen, work with tab)

In the end, I'm quite satisfied with the 3D Vision with a 4090. Out of 80 games tested, 67 launch in 3D (only 7 less than in tab/dx11) and only one problem is due to the dx9 mode (metro exodus)

If we count the dx9 games that I tested, more than 90% of the games that I launched run on this configuration and they run better (for dx11 games)! Almost all games fixed with the unity and UE universal fixes work.

I hope this little guide for 3Dvision games on new graphics cards can be useful to you and I hope that I will have feedback that will make it possible to make even more games work with geo11 DX9. In any case, a big thank you to the developers of this driver !!!

Hi all,

Feeling really low, my sister is in hospital and my pc got dropped by FedEx on its way to fnac lab for maintenance.

Fnac will be replacing my gpu (Msi 2080ti x trio 6k points in superposition 8k) with a 4070ti ASUS tuf (6500k points in superposition 8k). Case replacement too.

What are my options with the yucky 40 series? Is 3D vision lost me I.e. powerdvd 14 pictures movies?

Is playing system shock 1 remake with losti fix lost me?

What games can I play in 3D?

Please help great community, I got until Monday to reply.

P.S. System Shock remake will work?

[ZeGURU69]

You've got the answer in the post, the majority of 3D games run on RTX4xxx and the System Shock demo works too. The final game should therefore work (at least I hope so).

Well, some games won't run in 3D with dx9 mode, but I hope a new version of geo11 will be available soon with more functional games.

It's a pretty good deal to upgrade from a 2080 Ti to a 4070 Ti, which is equivalent to a 3090 Ti !

[UnityBeing]

You've got the answer in the post, the majority of 3D games run on RTX4xxx and the System Shock demo works too. The final game should therefore work (at least I hope so).

Well, some games won't run in 3D with dx9 mode, but I hope a new version of geo11 will be available soon with more functional games.

It's a pretty good deal to upgrade from a 2080 Ti to a 4070 Ti, which is equivalent to a 3090 Ti !

Thank you for replying guru. Happy Weekend.

[ZeGURU69]

I've tested a few games with the frosbite engine (the Dice engine that runs Need for Speed, Dragon Age, Mass Effect ...) and they all crash when the game goes into full-screen mode. They work (at least the ones I've tested) in tab mode.

[UnityBeing]

You've got the answer in the post, the majority of 3D games run on RTX4xxx and the System Shock demo works too. The final game should therefore work (at least I hope so).

Well, some games won't run in 3D with dx9 mode, but I hope a new version of geo11 will be available soon with more functional games.

It's a pretty good deal to upgrade from a 2080 Ti to a 4070 Ti, which is equivalent to a 3090 Ti !

Thank you for replying guru. Happy Weekend.

Got discord? Add me please UnityBeing#9350 cause I’ll need a bit of help and got a few questions, getting pc today yay.

[UnityBeing]

Hi ZeGURU,

I got my new gpu and can see powerdvd 14 pictures in 3D. I installed latest studio drivers and then afterwards 3D vision drivers via 3DFM. First game I tried with your steps is System Shock Remake and it doesn't work - I rechecked my steps. I tried adding the game in 3DFM but no luck and not sure how it really works. Could you confirm that System Shock Remake works with Losti's official system shock demo fix and your geo11 preferred version with modifications?

Thank you

[UnityBeing]

Ok gonna try everything again, installed 531.61-desktop-win10-win11-64bit-international-nsd-dch-whql that u are using, will get back to u all.

[UnityBeing]

Great, you are a smart person dear ZeGURU, thank u. The 531.61 drivers must be installed, then install 3DFM 3D drivers. I tried SystemShock2020_3D-Vision-Ready-Fix_V1.0_Losti with geo-11+v0.6.56 and it worked in 3D System Shock Remake. It has issues, I'll try your other fixes and keep updating and bumping your thread until I got all sorted out. Thank you again.

[UnityBeing]

I've tested a few games with the frosbite engine (the Dice engine that runs Need for Speed, Dragon Age, Mass Effect ...) and they all crash when the game goes into full-screen mode. They work (at least the ones I've tested) in tab mode.

Hi ZeGURU,

I'm trying to get Days Gone to work with 40 series - so far latest and oldest fixes don't work, or the solution you provided with geo11. Could you help me to get this to work or a no go for Days Gone? Please help.

[aofelix]

I've tested a few games with the frosbite engine (the Dice engine that runs Need for Speed, Dragon Age, Mass Effect ...) and they all crash when the game goes into full-screen mode. They work (at least the ones I've tested) in tab mode.

Hi ZeGURU,

I'm trying to get Days Gone to work with 40 series - so far latest and oldest fixes don't work, or the solution you provided with geo11. Could you help me to get this to work or a no go for Days Gone? Please help.

Shouldn't Geo-11 work regardless of driver version?

[UnityBeing]

Spec Ops The line work with dx9 mode in geo11, glad it works on 40 series with studio drivers. Shadows must be very low tho. I deleted days gone and gta v. Still ongoing in testing to see what works and doesn't.

[UnityBeing]

Batman Arkham City GOTY works on my 4070ti Tuf OC with geo-11+v0.6.56 and with the settings on screenshot. I see no issues, the performance is fast but too soon to say.

[UnityBeing]

Arkham Knight works with geo-11+v0.6.56 in my 4070ti Tuf OC but there are issues with shadow or something, not sure yet, it doesn't look optimal. I'll play it 4sure with what I get. I report back if I find anything more.

[BazzaLB]

Arkham Knight works with geo-11+v0.6.56 in my 4070ti Tuf OC but there are issues with shadow or something, not sure yet, it doesn't look optimal. I'll play it 4sure with what I get. I report back if I find anything more.

You need at least geo11 v0.6.90 for Arkahm knight. There was an issue with super low res textures kicking in after a few minutes play. This was fixed in v0.6.90. Anything lower than that is a waste of time playing with Arkham Knight.

[UnityBeing]

Arkham Knight works with geo-11+v0.6.56 in my 4070ti Tuf OC but there are issues with shadow or something, not sure yet, it doesn't look optimal. I'll play it 4sure with what I get. I report back if I find anything more.

You need at least geo11 v0.6.90 for Arkahm knight. There was an issue with super low res textures kicking in after a few minutes play. This was fixed in v0.6.90. Anything lower than that is a waste of time playing with Arkham Knight.

6.90 doesn't let 3D kick in on my 4070ti tuf oc. No point. Thanks for feedback.

[ZeGURU69]

Great, you are a smart person dear ZeGURU, thank u. The 531.61 drivers must be installed, then install 3DFM 3D drivers. I tried SystemShock2020_3D-Vision-Ready-Fix_V1.0_Losti with geo-11+v0.6.56 and it worked in 3D System Shock Remake. It has issues, I'll try your other fixes and keep updating and bumping your thread until I got all sorted out. Thank you again.

Hi UnityBeing,

Great that you got the game to work. Normally there should be no problem with newer drivers unless Nvidia has changed something but I don't think so. In my case, the game runs smoothly with the latest universal fix unreal 9.12.

[UnityBeing]

Resident Evil Revelations by eqzitara fix works with 6.56 geo11 fix. I can't get Resident Evil 2 to work, its a shame.

[3DNovice]

...

[UnityBeing]

Got Borderlands 3 to start in 3D. If any help needed assimilate it let me know, here is the files, pls set shortcut to your dir. The performance is meh but at least we close, the breakthrough was -force-d3d9. And I removed help.ini

[UnityBeing]

P.S. At startup it will hang for a bit, u just wait, then u activate 3D with shortcut - it works here, benchmark gave me 33-35fps.

[UnityBeing]

Guys if we can get Borderlands 3 dx11 to launch in 3D, this means 40 series will be sorted. It's with geo11 founder and other shaders to take helm. For some reason I can't fix masterotaku's geo11 fixes, its with him to fix it. I'm trying other games to see if I have luck.

[UnityBeing]

I failed at cracking Masterotaku's geo11 fix of Days Gone, but found an old database fix that gave me less problems. Please try figure it out if you know more about this type of workings. I attach the file.

[ZeGURU69]

Got Borderlands 3 to start in 3D. If any help needed assimilate it let me know, here is the files, pls set shortcut to your dir. The performance is meh but at least we close, the breakthrough was -force-d3d9. And I removed help.ini

I couldn't get borderland 3 to start up in 3D, which version of geo11 did you use?

[UnityBeing]

Got Borderlands 3 to start in 3D. If any help needed assimilate it let me know, here is the files, pls set shortcut to your dir. The performance is meh but at least we close, the breakthrough was -force-d3d9. And I removed help.ini

I couldn't get borderland 3 to start up in 3D, which version of geo11 did you use?

Hi ZeGURU,

I used geo-11+v0.6.56. Also shortcut of .exe has commands "-force-d3d9 -epicportal" and help.ini has been removed. If it doesn't work reboot pc to reset emitter. Start game, load save and then when loaded activate emitter. Should work? Works for me, I annexed the files I used.

[aofelix]

I am not sure if the JVC N5 is frame sequencial compatible (for 3Dvision) but you can already test in tab/sbs with geo11, it seems that the VP is compatible with these modes according to the documentation.

Thanks. Sorry I mis-communicated. I meant on my 4090, it doesn't come up as a 3D capable device like it does with my 2080 setup.

Just to clarify,

1. Install which driver for NVIDIDIA 4090 to enable 3D vision?
2. Install 3D fix manager and installed hacked drivers
3. Then 3D options should come up?

I have 3x LG OLED C6 and 1x JVC N5. I'd like to play back films on the N5 in bluray and play 3D vision games on the C6. Just really struggling to get this working.

[UnityBeing]

I am not sure if the JVC N5 is frame sequencial compatible (for 3Dvision) but you can already test in tab/sbs with geo11, it seems that the VP is compatible with these modes according to the documentation.

Thanks. Sorry I mis-communicated. I meant on my 4090, it doesn't come up as a 3D capable device like it does with my 2080 setup.

Just to clarify,

1. Install which driver for NVIDIDIA 4090 to enable 3D vision?
2. Install 3D fix manager and installed hacked drivers
3. Then 3D options should come up?

I have 3x LG OLED C6 and 1x JVC N5. I'd like to play back films on the N5 in bluray and play 3D vision games on the C6. Just really struggling to get this working.

UnityBeing wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 2:23 am
Great, you are a smart person dear ZeGURU, thank u. The 531.61 drivers must be installed, then install 3DFM 3D drivers. I tried SystemShock2020_3D-Vision-Ready-Fix_V1.0_Losti with geo-11+v0.6.56 and it worked in 3D System Shock Remake. It has issues, I'll try your other fixes and keep updating and bumping your thread until I got all sorted out. Thank you again.

That’s my quote, so install 531.61 studio windows drivers, then in 3DFM install 3D vision drivers. You need powerdvd 14 or upto 19 to watch Blu-ray 3D movies. Also 3D pictures and 2D to 3D converter of pictures and videos. If you need the program just ask me and I’ll post it here. It’s abondonware so keys are not sold for it anymore, the company allows us 3D vision users to get it any means necessary.

You need 6.56 geo11 to play the games that work, but powerdvd works without it.

Good luck.

[aofelix]

I am not sure if the JVC N5 is frame sequencial compatible (for 3Dvision) but you can already test in tab/sbs with geo11, it seems that the VP is compatible with these modes according to the documentation.

Thanks. Sorry I mis-communicated. I meant on my 4090, it doesn't come up as a 3D capable device like it does with my 2080 setup.

Just to clarify,

1. Install which driver for NVIDIDIA 4090 to enable 3D vision?
2. Install 3D fix manager and installed hacked drivers
3. Then 3D options should come up?

I have 3x LG OLED C6 and 1x JVC N5. I'd like to play back films on the N5 in bluray and play 3D vision games on the C6. Just really struggling to get this working.

UnityBeing wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 2:23 am
Great, you are a smart person dear ZeGURU, thank u. The 531.61 drivers must be installed, then install 3DFM 3D drivers. I tried SystemShock2020_3D-Vision-Ready-Fix_V1.0_Losti with geo-11+v0.6.56 and it worked in 3D System Shock Remake. It has issues, I'll try your other fixes and keep updating and bumping your thread until I got all sorted out. Thank you again.

That’s my quote, so install 531.61 studio windows drivers, then in 3DFM install 3D vision drivers. You need powerdvd 14 or upto 19 to watch Blu-ray 3D movies. Also 3D pictures and 2D to 3D converter of pictures and videos. If you need the program just ask me and I’ll post it here. It’s abondonware so keys are not sold for it anymore, the company allows us 3D vision users to get it any means necessary.

You need 6.56 geo11 to play the games that work, but powerdvd works without it.

Good luck.

Thanks. I tried this previously and on the 3D toggle it didn't detect my JVC N5 but I'll try again. It should detect my LG OLED C6s right if installed correctly as 3D capable?

[ZeGURU69]

Got Borderlands 3 to start in 3D. If any help needed assimilate it let me know, here is the files, pls set shortcut to your dir. The performance is meh but at least we close, the breakthrough was -force-d3d9. And I removed help.ini

I couldn't get borderland 3 to start up in 3D, which version of geo11 did you use?

Hi ZeGURU,

I used geo-11+v0.6.56. Also shortcut of .exe has commands "-force-d3d9 -epicportal" and help.ini has been removed. If it doesn't work reboot pc to reset emitter. Start game, load save and then when loaded activate emitter. Should work? Works for me, I annexed the files I used.

Hi UnityBeing,

Thanks, I don't know how you found this solution but deleting the line "include = ShaderFixes\help.ini" in d3dx.ini allows the game to launch in dx9 mode! There must surely be a problem with an element in the file.

However, there's no need to add -force-d3d9, as the game runs natively in dx11. This command normally forces the dx9 mode in UE4, but it doesn't exist. I've tried it on other UE4 games and they all crash (except borderland 3). It's better to use -dx11

[ZeGURU69]

I am not sure if the JVC N5 is frame sequencial compatible (for 3Dvision) but you can already test in tab/sbs with geo11, it seems that the VP is compatible with these modes according to the documentation.

Thanks. Sorry I mis-communicated. I meant on my 4090, it doesn't come up as a 3D capable device like it does with my 2080 setup.

Just to clarify,

1. Install which driver for NVIDIDIA 4090 to enable 3D vision?
2. Install 3D fix manager and installed hacked drivers
3. Then 3D options should come up?

I have 3x LG OLED C6 and 1x JVC N5. I'd like to play back films on the N5 in bluray and play 3D vision games on the C6. Just really struggling to get this working.

The LG OLED C6 screen is passive, so there's no need for the 3D Vision driver. Just install the latest drivers and select "interlaced" in d3dxdm.ini instead of "nvidia_dx9", and it should work !

[UnityBeing]

I couldn't get borderland 3 to start up in 3D, which version of geo11 did you use?

Hi ZeGURU,

I used geo-11+v0.6.56. Also shortcut of .exe has commands "-force-d3d9 -epicportal" and help.ini has been removed. If it doesn't work reboot pc to reset emitter. Start game, load save and then when loaded activate emitter. Should work? Works for me, I annexed the files I used.

Hi UnityBeing,

Thanks, I don't know how you found this solution but deleting the line "include = ShaderFixes\help.ini" in d3dx.ini allows the game to launch in dx9 mode! There must surely be a problem with an element in the file.

However, there's no need to add -force-d3d9, as the game runs natively in dx11. This command normally forces the dx9 mode in UE4, but it doesn't exist. I've tried it on other UE4 games and they all crash (except borderland 3). It's better to use -dx11

Hi ZeGURU, you legend. Yeah I found the help.ini solution from a Helixmod member when we decided to play a bit in coop in Borderlands 3, the forum might have the solution there. Happy it works for you, what perf do you get in fps and movement of turning? Are you getting decent perf? Hey if you wanna hookup for coop let me know.

I'm sure when geo11 get's fixed the performance will be better, but I'm not sure.

[3DNovice]

...

[UnityBeing]

I just found this in the 2022 database that DSS gave me geo-11v0.6.6 and it works in 40 series and textures are fixed in Batman™ Arkham Knight, no issues whatsoever. Thank you DarkStarSword!!!!! and geo founder.

[UnityBeing]

Hey ZeGURU, could u test 0.6.6 geo11 on a few games, perhaps borderlands 3 and so on? Maybe we got something here, I'll be going to sleep now. Keep me updated please.

[UnityBeing]

"I replaced geo-11v0.6.6 compiler 47 in master's official latest fix and got double image.
I also replaced d3dxdm.ini from 6.6. This is days gone."

I'm stumped by masterotaku's fixes, it's super complex, no way of hacking it in simple means. You gotta know coding to change the ini files. I believe I'll stop trying on masterotaku's fixes until geo11 founder does the proper fix.

[UnityBeing]

I'm trying to make MW 5 Mercs work, its unreal engine, anyone can help me? I tried UNREAL_Engine_4_UNIVERSAL-FIX_2_V9.12_20221110_LF but no luck, and even replaced with 6.56 and 6.6 and no luck. Anyone with a 40 series got this game to work in 3D vision? thanks.

[UnityBeing]

After a closer inspection of intro and running around in Batman Arkham Knight the 6.6 geo11 removed the anomolies but didn't fix the low res textures, I apologise for the confusion. Masterotaku is right to work on the fix no doubt. Before however the 3D had anomolies everywhere that hurt the eyes on the 40 series.

[UnityBeing]

P.S. Using latest studio drivers and Zeguru was right, it works. I don't know why I was having issues at first, but works.

[UnityBeing]

I gotta a helixmod member with a solution for GTA V, here are the quotes and files the person shared with me:

viewtopic.php?p=189210#p189210
"Re: geo-11 Grand Theft Auto V Benchmarks
Post by Chtiblue » Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:42 am

Yeah good news, I can confirm GTAV is still working fine in Geo-11 3D using 3Dmigoto loader.exe to hook d3d11.dll

https://discord.com/channels/5157038646 ... 5143380029:

"Good news, GTAV is still working fine in Geo-11 3D using 3Dmigoto loader.exe to hook d3d11.dll

Just change in d3dx [Loader] section
target = ...\GTAV.exe
with your GTAV path"

[UnityBeing]

Tried but the member uses Interlaced tech, not 3D vision ecosystem. The person has a 4090.

Here it doesn't work with 3D vision ecosystem.

[aofelix]

I am not sure if the JVC N5 is frame sequencial compatible (for 3Dvision) but you can already test in tab/sbs with geo11, it seems that the VP is compatible with these modes according to the documentation.

Thanks. Sorry I mis-communicated. I meant on my 4090, it doesn't come up as a 3D capable device like it does with my 2080 setup.

Just to clarify,

1. Install which driver for NVIDIDIA 4090 to enable 3D vision?
2. Install 3D fix manager and installed hacked drivers
3. Then 3D options should come up?

I have 3x LG OLED C6 and 1x JVC N5. I'd like to play back films on the N5 in bluray and play 3D vision games on the C6. Just really struggling to get this working.

The LG OLED C6 screen is passive, so there's no need for the 3D Vision driver. Just install the latest drivers and select "interlaced" in d3dxdm.ini instead of "nvidia_dx9", and it should work !

I'll give it a try. Do I need to activate interlaced on the TV? I assume so?

[3DNovice]

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[ZeGURU69]

Resident Evil Revelations by eqzitara fix works with 6.56 geo11 fix. I can't get Resident Evil 2 to work, its a shame.

Resident Evil Revelations is a dx9 game, it doesn't need geo11 to work ! Resident Evil 2, 3 and 7 do not work with geo11

Hey ZeGURU, could u test 0.6.6 geo11 on a few games, perhaps borderlands 3 and so on? Maybe we got something here, I'll be going to sleep now. Keep me updated please.

I haven't noticed that version 0.6.6 works any better than the others; in fact, it seems to me that it's a version that has trouble launching 3D.

Tried but the member uses Interlaced tech, not 3D vision ecosystem. The person has a 4090.

Here it doesn't work with 3D vision ecosystem.

Indeed, it seems to me that GTA V doesn't work in dx9 mode ...

[Dark_saiyens]

Hello,

I got a quick question...
I still have my 2080ti + PG278QR AND one LG Oled 65C6V (it is recognized to be 3D Vision monitor with EDID hack )
If i got one 4090RTX i couldn't use 3D vision anyways because it requiers Nvidia 3d vision drivers to work to synchronise the pyramid and glasses and geo-11 can't do that... So only 425.31 drivers are able to get it working.
So i couln't use my PG278QR in 3D screen anymore right ? Only my OLED 65C6V, but not in 3D Vision and i have to patch all my games in a different way ?

It is now total trash and a mess...
AND we don't have 3D screen for years.
And we can see since NVIDIA breaks 3D vision and with new GPU coming: 3D vision is dying+++++++ nobody now play in 3D Vision, we are maybe only hundred in the world... and it decrease so fast last years...

[UnityBeing]

Hello,

I got a quick question...
I still have my 2080ti + PG278QR AND one LG Oled 65C6V (it is recognized to be 3D Vision monitor with EDID hack )
If i got one 4090RTX i couldn't use 3D vision anyways because it requiers Nvidia 3d vision drivers to work to synchronise the pyramid and glasses and geo-11 can't do that... So only 425.31 drivers are able to get it working.
So i couln't use my PG278QR in 3D screen anymore right ? Only my OLED 65C6V, but not in 3D Vision and i have to patch all my games in a different way ?

It is now total trash and a mess...
AND we don't have 3D screen for years.
And we can see since NVIDIA breaks 3D vision and with new GPU coming: 3D vision is dying+++++++ nobody now play in 3D Vision, we are maybe only hundred in the world... and it decrease so fast last years...

Hi there saiyens,

I just lost my 2080ti and got a 4070ti tuf oc from insurance. Thanks to the forum and ZeGURU I was able to get 3D vision to work just fine but with some limitations.

1. Powerdvd 19 and previous versions work on 40 series with a 1 minute startup bug but you can enjoy 3D movies, 3D pictures and 2D > 3D converter pictures and videos.

2. There are plenty of dx9 games that work well on the 40 series with geo11 and official fixes - you gotta use either 5.56 geo11 or 6.6 geo11 depending on game. The founder of geo11 is working on dx9 mode on geo11 for 40 series so it works 100%.

3. 3D vision is well and alive - don't feel fooled by what you see, in the background there are thousands of us still on 3D vision and if you want to help donate to shaderhackers, geo11 founder and helifax.

If you need help setting up your 4090 on 3D vision equipment then ask on this forum thread and we will help you. There are plenty of games that work on 40 series.

Don't sell your 3D vision equipment as its rare and well worth keeping until nvidia totally kills it, so far 40 series has dx9 support.

Best Regards,

UB

[Dark_saiyens]

Hello,

I got a quick question...
I still have my 2080ti + PG278QR AND one LG Oled 65C6V (it is recognized to be 3D Vision monitor with EDID hack )
If i got one 4090RTX i couldn't use 3D vision anyways because it requiers Nvidia 3d vision drivers to work to synchronise the pyramid and glasses and geo-11 can't do that... So only 425.31 drivers are able to get it working.
So i couln't use my PG278QR in 3D screen anymore right ? Only my OLED 65C6V, but not in 3D Vision and i have to patch all my games in a different way ?

It is now total trash and a mess...
AND we don't have 3D screen for years.
And we can see since NVIDIA breaks 3D vision and with new GPU coming: 3D vision is dying+++++++ nobody now play in 3D Vision, we are maybe only hundred in the world... and it decrease so fast last years...

Hi there saiyens,

I just lost my 2080ti and got a 4070ti tuf oc from insurance. Thanks to the forum and ZeGURU I was able to get 3D vision to work just fine but with some limitations.

1. Powerdvd 19 and previous versions work on 40 series with a 1 minute startup bug but you can enjoy 3D movies, 3D pictures and 2D > 3D converter pictures and videos.

2. There are plenty of dx9 games that work well on the 40 series with geo11 and official fixes - you gotta use either 5.56 geo11 or 6.6 geo11 depending on game. The founder of geo11 is working on dx9 mode on geo11 for 40 series so it works 100%.

3. 3D vision is well and alive - don't feel fooled by what you see, in the background there are thousands of us still on 3D vision and if you want to help donate to shaderhackers, geo11 founder and helifax.

If you need help setting up your 4090 on 3D vision equipment then ask on this forum thread and we will help you. There are plenty of games that work on 40 series.

Don't sell your 3D vision equipment as its rare and well worth keeping until nvidia totally kills it, so far 40 series has dx9 support.

Best Regards,

UB

Hey !

I juste donated 3 hours ago to user Markus Gündert (and i did for months to darkswordshadow too)

Thanks for sharing good news for 3D Vision working on 4090, how is it possible with the lack of 3D emitter synchronisation without Nvidia drivers and not included in Geo-11 ?

I wouldn't sell my 3D Vision screens, i have just made a second computer only for 3D Vision with 13900K + 2080 ti . No drivers problems i would keep forever old Nvidia last 3D Vision driver !
I was just wondering how i would make when i would buy a new GPU on my "old" first config (i already got 13700KF+2080ti too) to 4090ti because in VR and for all new games in 4K it starts to be a bit low FPS. And my second 2080ti would goes in my computer reserved to 3D Vision with NVLINK of 2 x 2080ti

[UnityBeing]

Hello,

I got a quick question...
I still have my 2080ti + PG278QR AND one LG Oled 65C6V (it is recognized to be 3D Vision monitor with EDID hack )
If i got one 4090RTX i couldn't use 3D vision anyways because it requiers Nvidia 3d vision drivers to work to synchronise the pyramid and glasses and geo-11 can't do that... So only 425.31 drivers are able to get it working.
So i couln't use my PG278QR in 3D screen anymore right ? Only my OLED 65C6V, but not in 3D Vision and i have to patch all my games in a different way ?

It is now total trash and a mess...
AND we don't have 3D screen for years.
And we can see since NVIDIA breaks 3D vision and with new GPU coming: 3D vision is dying+++++++ nobody now play in 3D Vision, we are maybe only hundred in the world... and it decrease so fast last years...

Hi there saiyens,

I just lost my 2080ti and got a 4070ti tuf oc from insurance. Thanks to the forum and ZeGURU I was able to get 3D vision to work just fine but with some limitations.

1. Powerdvd 19 and previous versions work on 40 series with a 1 minute startup bug but you can enjoy 3D movies, 3D pictures and 2D > 3D converter pictures and videos.

2. There are plenty of dx9 games that work well on the 40 series with geo11 and official fixes - you gotta use either 5.56 geo11 or 6.6 geo11 depending on game. The founder of geo11 is working on dx9 mode on geo11 for 40 series so it works 100%.

3. 3D vision is well and alive - don't feel fooled by what you see, in the background there are thousands of us still on 3D vision and if you want to help donate to shaderhackers, geo11 founder and helifax.

If you need help setting up your 4090 on 3D vision equipment then ask on this forum thread and we will help you. There are plenty of games that work on 40 series.

Don't sell your 3D vision equipment as its rare and well worth keeping until nvidia totally kills it, so far 40 series has dx9 support.

Best Regards,

UB

Hey !

I juste donated 3 hours ago to user Markus Gündert (and i did for months to darkswordshadow too)

Thanks for sharing good news for 3D Vision working on 4090, how is it possible with the lack of 3D emitter synchronisation without Nvidia drivers and not included in Geo-11 ?

I wouldn't sell my 3D Vision screens, i have just made a second computer only for 3D Vision with 13900K + 2080 ti . No drivers problems i would keep forever old Nvidia last 3D Vision driver !
I was just wondering how i would make when i would buy a new GPU on my "old" first config (i already got 13700KF+2080ti too) to 4090ti because in VR and for all new games in 4K it starts to be a bit low FPS. And my second 2080ti would goes in my computer reserved to 3D Vision with NVLINK of 2 x 2080ti

Hiya,

Thanks again for donating to our heroes in helixmod.

The 40 series needs latest studio DCH drivers installed and then 3DFM's nvidia 3D vision drivers install - after that you set depth in 3DFM until it sticks, u gotta click apply until it sets it. When u done with that you sorted for 3D vision. Like ZeGURU claims 80% of u4 games work and some other engines work but not perfect. When you upgrade come back here and we will help you setup. I advise you keep your 2080ti just in case geo11 discontinues - don't sell it. What game you wanting to play with your 4090 in 3D? Post the games and we in the thread will give you feedback!

Best Regards,

UB

[romeodog3d]

I am getting ghosting at a distance on Doom Eternal. I am playing on a passive 4k 3d tv. Using 4070ti. How can I fine tune to try eliminate this ?

I fixed the ghosting by turning off ray tracing, it's a shame, but in 3d the Ray tracing doesn't line up with itself and produces bad 3d.

[UnityBeing]

Hey ZeGURU did you figure out how to make Dying Light work in 3D 6.6 or 6.56? Anyway to get it to work in 40 series?

[UnityBeing]

Hi, I just got The Ascent and used Uni fix with geo11 5.65 - I firstly activated via geo setup and then uni setup non-epic and now playing in dx12, Ray Tracing, Maxed out and 1440p in 3D Vision. The eye candy is pure amazing Here are my annexed files. I paid 2 euros for The Ascent on a cdkeys.com.

[UnityBeing]

Took a while to figure it out but annexed my setup fix of helixmod with 6.6 geo11 maybe if i recall correctly and the game runs amazing on my 4070ti tuf oc. Here are the files, enjoy Fallout 4 at it's finest like wine any questions if trouble contact me. Enjoy my saves.


P.S. there will be a beeping sound then the shader loading - wait, in save game press shortcut + t to get 3D to work.


I report crashes. Can't play. 3D vision works perfectly fine and good fps on 4070ti tuf oc. Someone else figure it out. I tried obs to livestream. Oh well.

[UnityBeing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSz84F1kgkM Fallout 4 - ENBoost - Determine the Optimal VRAM Settings for Your Machine

[UnityBeing]

If anyone wishes here is a memory leak fix, I'm still troubleshooting f04.

[UnityBeing]

viewtopic.php?p=189516#p189516

[UnityBeing]

viewtopic.php?p=189532#p189532

[john-glad]

I recently also purchased a 4090 and wanted to report my findings for different games I have tried so far.

I play on a LG OLED 65 E1 and usually try to use the interlaced settings for Geo11 (or TAB or SBS) and native 4K resolution.
If no special Geo11 fix exists I usually try to change the setting force_stereo=2 in the existing d3dx.ini file and copy all files from the Devil May Cry 5 fix beside the ShaderFiles folders, because I heard that that seems to include the latest Geo11 version (maybe I am wrong)

Here is the list of games I have tested so far (sorry if maybe there are some duplicates from the initial list of this post).
- Assassins Creed Unity (fix from the forum here, messed up, one eye issue, blocky artefacts around characters etc but performance seems finally ok)
- Anthem (3D does not kick in with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11, has several error messages at startup)
- Ascent (works fine with latest Universal UE4 fix 9.12)
- Atomic Heart Demo ((works fine with latest Universal UE4 fix 9.12 but full version from Game Pass crashes on startup)
- Battlefield V (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11)
- Callisto Protocol (has startup error with with UE4 9.12 but works with older version but is then broken)
- Control (works fine with fix from HelixBlog)
- Days Gone (works fine with fix from HelixBlog)
- Devil May Cry 5 (works fine with fix from HelixBlog)
- God Of War (works fine with fix from HelixBlog)
- GTA V (works fine with 3Dmigoto loader, see viewtopic.php?t=26746&start=40)
- Hitman 2 (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11, but has some strange stutters in benchmark)
- Kena (works fine with latest Universal UE4 fix 9.12 when disabling Epic Overlay)
- Kingdome Come Deliverance (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11)
- Metro Exodus (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11)
- Mortal Kombat 11 (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11)
- Outriders (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11)
- Resident Evil 2 (works fine with fix from HelixBlog)
- Sifu (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11 when disbaling Epic Overlay)
- Star Wars Jedi Falle Order (works ok with UE4 9.12 + Shader Cache from fix + Geo11, some strange artefacts and shader compilation stutter without shader cache)
- Star Wars Battlefreont 2 (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11, must disbale EA Overlay otherwise crash)
- Watch Dogs Legion (3D does not kick in with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11. Several error messages at startup)
- Witcher 3 (Works fine with fix from HelixBlog)

I hope this helps some other people with a similar setup.
I have an Ryzen 3900X and the performance with the new 4090 is way better than with my old 2080.

I am looking forward for new fixes and maybe some day we will even have an solution for DX12 but I am glad that so many games already work with Geo11 and such good performance so that finally it is possible to play in native 4K and glorious 3D without the old 3 core bug.

And thanks to Dave and bo3d and masterotaku and all the other shader hackers (DHR, Losti, ...) for Geo11 and all the great fixes, so that 3D is still alive even in 2023.
I already donate to you via patreon since some time and I am very thankful that you keep our hobby alive.

[UnityBeing]

I recently also purchased a 4090 and wanted to report my findings for different games I have tried so far.

I play on a LG OLED 65 E1 and usually try to use the interlaced settings for Geo11 (or TAB or SBS) and native 4K resolution.
If no special Geo11 fix exists I usually try to change the setting force_stereo=2 in the existing d3dx.ini file and copy all files from the Devil May Cry 5 fix beside the ShaderFiles folders, because I heard that that seems to include the latest Geo11 version (maybe I am wrong)

Here is the list of games I have tested so far (sorry if maybe there are some duplicates from the initial list of this post).
- Assassins Creed Unity (fix from the forum here, messed up, one eye issue, blocky artefacts around characters etc but performance seems finally ok)
- Anthem (3D does not kick in with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11, has several error messages at startup)
- Ascent (works fine with latest Universal UE4 fix 9.12)
- Atomic Heart Demo ((works fine with latest Universal UE4 fix 9.12 but full version from Game Pass crashes on startup)
- Battlefield V (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11)
- Callisto Protocol (has startup error with with UE4 9.12 but works with older version but is then broken)
- Control (works fine with fix from HelixBlog)
- Days Gone (works fine with fix from HelixBlog)
- Devil May Cry 5 (works fine with fix from HelixBlog)
- God Of War (works fine with fix from HelixBlog)
- GTA V (works fine with 3Dmigoto loader, see viewtopic.php?t=26746&start=40)
- Hitman 2 (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11, but has some strange stutters in benchmark)
- Kena (works fine with latest Universal UE4 fix 9.12 when disabling Epic Overlay)
- Kingdome Come Deliverance (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11)
- Metro Exodus (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11)
- Mortal Kombat 11 (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11)
- Outriders (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11)
- Resident Evil 2 (works fine with fix from HelixBlog)
- Sifu (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11 when disbaling Epic Overlay)
- Star Wars Jedi Falle Order (works ok with UE4 9.12 + Shader Cache from fix + Geo11, some strange artefacts and shader compilation stutter without shader cache)
- Star Wars Battlefreont 2 (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11, must disbale EA Overlay otherwise crash)
- Watch Dogs Legion (3D does not kick in with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11. Several error messages at startup)
- Witcher 3 (Works fine with fix from HelixBlog)

I hope this helps some other people with a similar setup.
I have an Ryzen 3900X and the performance with the new 4090 is way better than with my old 2080.

I am looking forward for new fixes and maybe some day we will even have an solution for DX12 but I am glad that so many games already work with Geo11 and such good performance so that finally it is possible to play in native 4K and glorious 3D without the old 3 core bug.

And thanks to Dave and bo3d and masterotaku and all the other shader hackers (DHR, Losti, ...) for Geo11 and all the great fixes, so that 3D is still alive even in 2023.
I already donate to you via patreon since some time and I am very thankful that you keep our hobby alive.

Much appreciated for your feedback. Most use pg278qr or q and we having issues with 3D vision ready monitors. Glad you not. I'm sure u made someone's day brighter with your post. Keep well.

[UnityBeing]

Hi all,

I got great news for 40 series owners. Uni unreal fix 9.06 with dll files and dm ini file from geo11 6.6 set to dx9 works in 3D vision hardware for Vanilla Outer Worlds. The files are annexed.

[deleted and desisted due to losti] not posting anymore here on this forum, I’ve done my best. Goodbye community.

[UnityBeing]

Hi ZeGURU,

Could u share masterotaku’s original fix for God of War with working geo11 files?

Thank u.

[UnityBeing]

Here is annexed the files to allow God of War to work on 40 series in it's beauty. Thank you Masterotaku for original fix and AngryJason for the game gift. Enjoy. [deleted and desisted due to losti] not posting anymore here on this forum, I’ve done my best. Goodbye community.

[UnityBeing]

Hi all,

At the moment investigating Rise of Tomb Raider. I got it to launch in 3D but keyboard and mouse don’t interact with menu. I’ll be posting my findings for some coder to figure it out. I did my part. Stay tuned for Saturday’s update.

[UnityBeing]

Hi all again,

Rise of the Tomb Raider epic version works in 3D vision @ 4070ti tuf oc, or 40 series as it's known. 6.56 and 6.6 both work and stereorise. The fix is by Masterotaku and is already outdated and there isn't anything that surpasses it in quality atm. You need "G:\Epic Games\Rage 2\RiseoftheTombRaider\ROTTR.exe" -epicportal to run the game without epic launcher.


The problem I have in my computer is that keyboard and mouse don't interact with options menu, but mouse moves and keyboard can log out pc. No alt tabing, no Alt+f4 etc Alt+T works too. I ask anyone that is a coder to please investigate and find a fix so we 30 and 40 series can play this awesome game in 3D.


Thank you.

[Lysander]

Here is annexed the files to allow God of War to work on 40 series in it's beauty. Thank you Masterotaku for original fix and AngryJason for the game gift. Enjoy.

You are running it via nvidia_dx9 mode?

[UnityBeing]

Here is annexed the files to allow God of War to work on 40 series in it's beauty. Thank you Masterotaku for original fix and AngryJason for the game gift. Enjoy.

You are running it via nvidia_dx9 mode?

Yes, dx9 mode.

[Lysander]

Here is annexed the files to allow God of War to work on 40 series in it's beauty. Thank you Masterotaku for original fix and AngryJason for the game gift. Enjoy.

You are running it via nvidia_dx9 mode?

Yes, dx9 mode.

oh, that's really good news, thx for confirming. Last I checked this game didn't work in that mode.

[UnityBeing]

You are running it via nvidia_dx9 mode?

Yes, dx9 mode.

oh, that's really good news, thx for confirming. Last I checked this game didn't work in that mode.

So far the upgrade to 40 series has been worth it. I did lose a few games in 3D but geo11, UNI fix and Vulkan3D proved to be effective in retaining my 3D vision gaming. UNI fix is very effective I must say with geo11. My advice is don't worry about upgrading to 40 series i.e. 4070ti is worth the while. I was able to hack and make a few games work already. I'm looking for assistance of course but not much activity nowadays in the topic. Keep well Lysander.

[UnityBeing]

I retested geo11 and 6.56 has more usage in gpu in Fallout 4 i.e. 30%, here are the files annexed.
[deleted and desisted due to losti] not posting anymore here on this forum, I’ve done my best. Goodbye community.

[UnityBeing]

Oh and I installed this mod for fallout 4: Oh and I installed this mod, enjoy: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/60330 ... - enjoy.

[UnityBeing]

New findings, f4se_loader allows full gpu utilization and massive fps boost to the max - performance is optimal. In Fallout 4.

Here are my annexed files.

[UnityBeing]

Fixed GtA 4 dlcs and it runs ok i.e. 50-60fps per eye so 120fps in total. You will get a red text and gotta change resolution to 1080p 120hz and then decline change and it fixes it. Please follow annexed screenshots of what must be done to play it in 3D. Enjoy. P.S. Lower draw distance and vehicle detail. [deleted and desisted due to losti] not posting anymore here on this forum, I’ve done my best. Goodbye community.

[UnityBeing]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/ne ... dy-driver/

[UnityBeing]

God of War fix for 1440p, some max settings and eye candy, do use Alt+F3 to add extra eye candy. Enjoy. Files annexed. [deleted and desisted due to losti] not posting anymore here on this forum, I’ve done my best. Goodbye community.

[ZeGURU69]

Fixed GtA 4 dlcs and it runs ok i.e. 50-60fps per eye so 120fps in total. You will get a red text and gotta change resolution to 1080p 120hz and then decline change and it fixes it. Please follow annexed screenshots of what must be done to play it in 3D. Enjoy. P.S. Lower draw distance and vehicle detail.

GTA IV is a dx9 game (like Batman Arkham City which I saw in the conversation thread). There's no need for geo11 that doesn't work for dx9 games.

[UnityBeing]

Fixed GtA 4 dlcs and it runs ok i.e. 50-60fps per eye so 120fps in total. You will get a red text and gotta change resolution to 1080p 120hz and then decline change and it fixes it. Please follow annexed screenshots of what must be done to play it in 3D. Enjoy. P.S. Lower draw distance and vehicle detail.

GTA IV is a dx9 game (like Batman Arkham City which I saw in the conversation thread). There's no need for geo11 that doesn't work for dx9 games.

Thanks for correcting me, still I got it to work without red txt.

Hey I need your help with Titanfall 2, how do I get it to work in 3D?

[ZeGURU69]

Fixed GtA 4 dlcs and it runs ok i.e. 50-60fps per eye so 120fps in total. You will get a red text and gotta change resolution to 1080p 120hz and then decline change and it fixes it. Please follow annexed screenshots of what must be done to play it in 3D. Enjoy. P.S. Lower draw distance and vehicle detail.

GTA IV is a dx9 game (like Batman Arkham City which I saw in the conversation thread). There's no need for geo11 that doesn't work for dx9 games.

Thanks for correcting me, still I got it to work without red txt.

Hey I need your help with Titanfall 2, how do I get it to work in 3D?

I couldn't get Titanfall 2 to work, it's on the list of games that don't engage 3D

I'm on a rather special system with my video projector and I never get a red message.

[UnityBeing]

GTA IV is a dx9 game (like Batman Arkham City which I saw in the conversation thread). There's no need for geo11 that doesn't work for dx9 games.

Thanks for correcting me, still I got it to work without red txt.

Hey I need your help with Titanfall 2, how do I get it to work in 3D?

I couldn't get Titanfall 2 to work, it's on the list of games that don't engage 3D

I'm on a rather special system with my video projector and I never get a red message.

Ah yes, I'm on a pg278qr and red txt is unfixable in my opinion. Listen Guru, glad u back and communicating - I missed your feedback, pls be more active or try to be, we doing great things for our oppressed community to play in 3D. Keep well and I respect u Guru.

[ZeGURU69]

I was able to play all 4 Batman Arkham games in 3D. For the first 3, you need to launch them in dx9 mode (only Arkham Origin requires you to add the -d3d9 command), the first is dx9 only and you shouldn't use the dx11 optimizations for the 2.

For Arkham Knight, I've tested on 0.6.90, the game launches in the background and if you click on it during the logos, it crashes in dx9 mode. But if you wait until it reaches the main menu, the game runs normally without the texture bug (you just have to press Ctrl T twice to launch 3D).

[UnityBeing]

I was able to play all 4 Batman Arkham games in 3D. For the first 3, you need to launch them in dx9 mode (only Arkham Origin requires you to add the -d3d9 command), the first is dx9 only and you shouldn't use the dx11 optimizations for the 2.

For Arkham Knight, I've tested on 0.6.90, the game launches in the background and if you click on it during the logos, it crashes in dx9 mode. But if you wait until it reaches the main menu, the game runs normally without the texture bug (you just have to press Ctrl T twice to launch 3D).

Wowowowowow you legend, thank u bro, gonna keep a copy of your solution on txt. please attach and upload 6.90 geo11 bro, thank u so much.

[UnityBeing]

Is this the geo11 fix Guru? [deleted and desisted due to losti] not posting anymore here on this forum, I’ve done my best. Goodbye community.

[3DNovice]

...

[UnityBeing]

PCGW, will generally list a way of skipping/disabling intro videos in old Unreal Games.

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Batman:_Arkham_Knight

Thank u brother. Stay safe and healthy.

[ZeGURU69]

Is this the geo11 fix Guru?

Yes, that's the one. I haven't looked at skipping the intro yet but I'll give it a try, see if the game still works.

[UnityBeing]

Is this the geo11 fix Guru?

Yes, that's the one. I haven't looked at skipping the intro yet but I'll give it a try, see if the game still works.

I need you to test The Ascent and my fix - in my computer it works in dx12 and ray tracing, please confirm. In cd keys it cost's 2 euros if there still is stock. If you need help setting up let me know. I gotta say ray tracing in 3D is awe-inspiring. Let me know if you can investigate for the good of helixmod and for good of your time. Thank you. viewtopic.php?t=26823

[ZeGURU69]

The Ascent you must add -dx11 in the game properties so that it launches in dx11. Otherwise you must also deactivate the DLSS

[Losti]

Is this the geo11 fix Guru?

Yes, that's the one. I haven't looked at skipping the intro yet but I'll give it a try, see if the game still works.

I need you to test The Ascent and my fix - in my computer it works in dx12 and ray tracing, please confirm. In cd keys it cost's 2 euros if there still is stock. If you need help setting up let me know. I gotta say ray tracing in 3D is awe-inspiring. Let me know if you can investigate for the good of helixmod and for good of your time. Thank you. viewtopic.php?t=26823

DX12 is not supported by mogoto nor Geo11. If the game is working for you it runs in dx11 otherwise you will get red error Messages. Dont spread false hope please

[UnityBeing]

Yes, that's the one. I haven't looked at skipping the intro yet but I'll give it a try, see if the game still works.

I need you to test The Ascent and my fix - in my computer it works in dx12 and ray tracing, please confirm. In cd keys it cost's 2 euros if there still is stock. If you need help setting up let me know. I gotta say ray tracing in 3D is awe-inspiring. Let me know if you can investigate for the good of helixmod and for good of your time. Thank you. viewtopic.php?t=26823

DX12 is not supported by mogoto nor Geo11. If the game is working for you it runs in dx11 otherwise you will get red error Messages. Dont spread false hope please

Hi Losti, I take great disrespect and offence in your comment about spreading false hope. I’ll take screenshots in 2D mode to prove settings and ray tracing.

[ZeGURU69]

Yes, that's the one. I haven't looked at skipping the intro yet but I'll give it a try, see if the game still works.

I need you to test The Ascent and my fix - in my computer it works in dx12 and ray tracing, please confirm. In cd keys it cost's 2 euros if there still is stock. If you need help setting up let me know. I gotta say ray tracing in 3D is awe-inspiring. Let me know if you can investigate for the good of helixmod and for good of your time. Thank you. viewtopic.php?t=26823

DX12 is not supported by mogoto nor Geo11. If the game is working for you it runs in dx11 otherwise you will get red error Messages. Dont spread false hope please

@UnityBeing
I hadn't seen that you wanted to make it work in dx12. There's no point in doing this type of test because, as Losti says, geo11/3dmigoto only works in dx11 and should never work in dx12.

I don't know why you created a post to announce that The Ascent works in 3D/dx12 when it doesn't.

[UnityBeing]

wow Misery Index must be high to get attacked for contributing to the community, I might be wrong but calm down really - show some respect for what I contributed to the community.

Here are my screenshots, make it with it as you will. Please show some respect before claiming I'm lying and spreading false hope. Please study tech and know that bugs happen and do bypass blocks.

[Lizzard]

wow Misery Index must be high to get attacked for contributing to the community, I might be wrong but calm down really - show some respect for what I contributed to the community.

Here are my screenshots, make it with it as you will. Please show some respect before claiming I'm lying and spreading false hope. Please study tech and know that bugs happen and do bypass blocks.

Hi UnityBeing.
You might want to follow D-Novice's recomendation to determine which DX version is detected in the pipeline through MSI-Afterburner. I havent tried it myself but it should act similar to apps like CPU-ID.
I think most would believe the bug is rather a UI bug that is displaying dx12 instead of dx11. Most could also be wrong though..
Thanks for sharing your findings.

[UnityBeing]

[/quote]
Hi UnityBeing.
You might want to follow D-Novice's recomendation to determine which DX version is detected in the pipeline through MSI-Afterburner. I havent tried it myself but it should act similar to apps like CPU-ID.
I think most would believe the bug is rather a UI bug that is displaying dx12 instead of dx11. Most could also be wrong though..
Thanks for sharing your findings.
[/quote]

Well not surprising MSI afterburner RTSS show dx11. I tried changing to dx11 but game doesn't allow with fix. I disabled the effects of dx12 and ray tracing and the screenshots are annexed. My thesis is some ray tracing is there and some not. My theory is its a bug and some ray tracing is showing. I apologise to the community and Losti for being noob reaction to the amazing graphics of this game in 3D. You can discern the screenshots and see for yourself the differences in the ray tracing that works in 3D. For example the floor doesn't work but the light hitting objects works imo. Peace. I'll go update my forum post now.

[DerBlob]

My Brain explode in dx12 after reading boom!

[DerBlob]

My Brain explode in dx12 after reading boom!

my finding geo-11 isnt dx12 but maybe thats just me...and after try and error i disable dx12 because geo-11 11 11 11 do not work with 12 mhhhh11??!?

[Losti]

GEO11 and migoto gives you bug warning messages if game runs in dx12 and the game should be broken as hell. If the game works and no warning messages pops up and effects are fixed than it runs in dx11 for sure .

[3DNovice]

....

[aofelix]

would 3d work with jvc projector n5? or only 3d vision display + glasses?

[ZeGURU69]

would 3d work with jvc projector n5? or only 3d vision display + glasses?

Normally your video projector is framepacking compatible, so you should be able to use 3DTV Play (limited to 720p/60 or 1080p/24).

[ZeGURU69]

I've updated the article to include a paragraph on DSR, which unfortunately doesn't work with RTX4xxx.

[UnityBeing]

Hi brothers and sisters,

long time indeed. I got great news, I was able to bypass the UE menu in Master Chief Collection and hack a way to make Halo: Reach work in 3D in my 4070ti - and with Alt + F3 Geforce experience shaders it looks amazing.

Now it won't be an easy task to get it to work but its easy to adapt to it if you got endurance.

Firstly the steps to take:

1. Install Master Chief Collection fix directly from helixmod website by MasterOtaku the Legend.
2. The screen in loading will be black and sound will be coming out.
3. Blind perseverance: Before you load the game with the fix setup all graphical instructed settings in the helixmod page by Masterotaku - i.e. 60fps cap - u can use borderless or Fullscreen. e.g. If you have trouble start borderless without dx11 dll and place it in a new folder in the .exe dir if u want 2D without issues.
4. In borderless and blind in 3D you just tap enter until an image of the loading 2D screen appears and there is no blackness anymore - it will resume where u left off, so before dx11 dll is in you gotta setup difficulty and chapter.
5. When game loads into action in the first chapter you esc and go to settings and change to fullscreen - game will freeze for a short few seconds and resume, you tap iR Emitter shorcut to activate until it kicks in - it should work, it works here.
6. You can then just start in fullscreen mode in blackness and spam enter to enter the resume option and activate IR Emitter if in 2D in action mode.
7. If coop you can load game in blackness and I presume *untested* you can get a friend to join your game when you pass the intro startup movies and in UE menu - he should join, and u spam enter until it resumes <- untested, will post here soon my findings.
8. If you wanna play other Halo versions you in blackness time your enters and move your highlight to the game - so if its a 3rd release u press down arrow 3 times and enter spam until it loads after setting it up in 2D with dx11 dll in new folder in the dir.
9. I used max settings in Halo: Reach and enhanced in fullscreen at 1440p with a pg278qr and 4070ti with latest drivers and Alt + F3 shaders. I advice u try Sharpening, +sharpening and detail.

I'll investigate more. This is a must play game in 3D, so I hope I helped you a bit.

Please comment with any better solutions, or thoughts.

Enjoy Halo in 3D vision in a 40 series.

Please donate to masterotaku, as quoted:

https://helixmod.blogspot.com/2020/12/h ... ction.html

"If you liked the fix and want to contribute for more future fixes, you can donate to this PayPal account: masterotakusuko@gmail.com
Or you can join my Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/masterotaku
Posted by masterotaku"

[UnityBeing]

[deleted and desisted due to losti] not posting anymore here on this forum, I’ve done my best. Goodbye community.

[UnityBeing]

Halo: Reach - Master Chief Collection working on 40 series. Important update!

Post by UnityBeing » Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:20 pm

P.S. go to x:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Halo The Master Chief Collection\MCC\Binaries\Win64\MCC-Win64-Shipping.exe, right click and go properties and disable Full-screen Optimisations. It will get rid of red text.


Hi brothers and sisters,

long time indeed. I got great news, I was able to bypass the UE menu in Master Chief Collection and hack a way to make Halo: Reach work in 3D in my 4070ti - and with Alt + F3 Geforce experience shaders it looks amazing.

Now it won't be an easy task to get it to work but its easy to adapt to it if you got endurance.

Firstly the steps to take:

1. Install Master Chief Collection fix directly from helixmod website by MasterOtaku the Legend.
2. The screen in loading will be black and sound will be coming out.
3. Blind perseverance: Before you load the game with the fix setup all graphical instructed settings in the helixmod page by Masterotaku - i.e. 60fps cap - u can use borderless or Fullscreen. e.g. If you have trouble start borderless without dx11 dll and place it in a new folder in the .exe dir if u want 2D without issues.
4. In borderless and blind in 3D you just tap enter until an image of the loading 2D screen appears and there is no blackness anymore - it will resume where u left off, so before dx11 dll is in you gotta setup difficulty and chapter.
5. When game loads into action in the first chapter you esc and go to settings and change to fullscreen - game will freeze for a short few seconds and resume, you tap iR Emitter shorcut to activate until it kicks in - it should work, it works here.
6. You can then just start in fullscreen mode in blackness and spam enter to enter the resume option and activate IR Emitter if in 2D in action mode.
7. If coop you can load game in blackness and I presume *untested* you can get a friend to join your game when you pass the intro startup movies and in UE menu - he should join, and u spam enter until it resumes <- untested, will post here soon my findings.
8. If you wanna play other Halo versions you in blackness time your enters and move your highlight to the game - so if its a 3rd release u press down arrow 3 times and enter spam until it loads after setting it up in 2D with dx11 dll in new folder in the dir.
9. I used max settings in Halo: Reach and enhanced in fullscreen at 1440p with a pg278qr and 4070ti with latest drivers and Alt + F3 shaders. I advice u try Sharpening, +sharpening and detail.

I'll investigate more. This is a must play game in 3D, so I hope I helped you a bit.

Please comment with any better solutions, or thoughts.

Enjoy Halo in 3D vision in a 40 series.

Please donate to masterotaku, as quoted:

https://helixmod.blogspot.com/2020/12/h ... ction.html

"If you liked the fix and want to contribute for more future fixes, you can donate to this PayPal account: masterotakusuko@gmail.com
Or you can join my Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/masterotaku
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[UnityBeing]

I have good news concerning Dying Light 1 - which didn't work on 30 and 40 series, I hacked a way to work, please enjoy. [deleted and desisted due to losti] not posting anymore here on this forum, I’ve done my best. Goodbye community.

[UnityBeing]

So I found a way of hacking games that don't have latest geo11, a warning to u all 30 and 40 series owners - masterotaku is updating the database with latest geo11 which atm has directx9 problems. Here are the files for sniper elite 3, thanks to the old shaderhackers who are dearly missed. Pls adjust conv. If you can fix it further post it! [deleted and desisted due to losti] not posting anymore here on this forum, I’ve done my best. Goodbye community.

[UnityBeing]

Thanks to the missed shaderhackers for making this possible with migoto - geo11 too the old one. I hacked a way and it works on 30 and 40 series. Looks boinkers on a 40 series. [deleted and desisted due to losti] not posting anymore here on this forum, I’ve done my best. Goodbye community.

[UnityBeing]

abwezi solved the problem in dx9 in 40 series and 30 series, thanks to him we all have a solution now in latest gpus *maybe* - I'll post his files here and what he said in screenshots.

Kind Regards

P.S. When you load game change between Fullscreen and Borderless ingame loaded in mission and press Ctrl + T until it kicks in, it worked on my 4070ti and latest nvidia drivers as of 11/12/2023. [deleted and desisted due to losti] not posting anymore here on this forum, I’ve done my best. Goodbye community.

[ZeGURU69]

Thanks for these fixes, I haven't tested these games on geo11 in dx9 mode. What did you do to make them work? What version of geo11 are you using?

[UnityBeing]

Thanks for these fixes, I haven't tested these games on geo11 in dx9 mode. What did you do to make them work? What version of geo11 are you using?

Hi ZeGURU, nice hearing from u again. I found a few tips and geo11 fixes that can be used to make games work in dx9 from Abwezi from helix discord server. Here are the files and instructions, download all of them and archive please.

Wishing u and everyone in this awesome 3D community a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
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[Dazzawill]

Thanks for this find and sharing the info, however, I just want to make sure I understand and that Im testing the right way. So basically all you do is replace the 2 Geo11 DLLs of the latest known version (182) with the ones in the current geo 11 game fix and then change fullscreen=0 to 2 in the 3dfx.ini. Launch game and swap between borderless and fullscreen then control T to activate dx9 mode? Has anyone tried this with the UE4 universal fix? I tried 1 game and it crashed. Cheers and thanks again

[UnityBeing]

Thanks for this find and sharing the info, however, I just want to make sure I understand and that Im testing the right way. So basically all you do is replace the 2 Geo11 DLLs of the latest known version (182) with the ones in the current geo 11 game fix and then change fullscreen=0 to 2 in the 3dfx.ini. Launch game and swap between borderless and fullscreen then control T to activate dx9 mode? Has anyone tried this with the UE4 universal fix? I tried 1 game and it crashed. Cheers and thanks again

Hi there Dazzawill,

Firstly it's my pleasure to help the 3D community as we are being attacked heavily by corporations trying to sell eye tracking and body tracking with machine learning and data mining. 3D vision doesn't have tracking or telemetry as far as I know besides geforce experience's telemetry.

As to your question:

Masterotaku's fixes are unhackable as I've sank many hours trying to make it work by replacing DLL files and other creative ways, it's hard coded for 20 series.

If you find a game with other shaderhackers u just replace the DLL files and sometimes u need to replace the dm file, or place it with dx9 mode enabled and you might get the game to work in 30 or 40 series. So far I've hacked 4-5 games and made them work. Making a game to work isn't only replacing the DLL, it's inputting settings in the d3dx.ini file and being creative on how to unblock the dx9 mode. You will have better luck with older titles or Masterotaku's God of War that isn't hard coded.

If you need a game fixed post here and if one of us owns it we will attempt to get it to work for you for free - but no promises. U4 uni fix is a controversial topic, as Losti works for a corporation now and doesn't really want his fixes used. So we can't share or really talk about Losti's U4 uni fixes or he will get upset. You will have to pm one of us for info and files, or search the forum's database to get things to work. In public Losti is very strict about his fixes.

I will say Losti contributed a lot to Helix and his uni fix is amazing coding - his latest and last work works 101% still. Like I said u will have to pm if u need help with a U4 engine game.

We can't share Losti's fixes on the forum or in public. Try helix forum for that, or search the forum for it. Or contact Losti.

Games by older shaderhackers are hackable and work somewhat well - but myself I'm still new to this whole scene and can't help much, only give tips. Just post the game you want a fix and wait for replies.

Merry Christmas Dazzawill.

[Dazzawill]

Wow, thanks for your detailed explanation. Sounds very complex. As for now I'm extrtemely satisfied that pretty much everything works in SBS, however, it would be nice to have more titles that are dx11, working in DX9 output mode via 3Dvision. Sounded easier to be achieved with your earlier post due to the breakthrough from Zeguru. Merry Xmas to you too.

[UnityBeing]

Hi,

Today, 30th, is my birthday and I decided to share with you all a working Mass Effect Legendary Edition fully working but with some instructions.

Firstly thanks to Abwezi from Helix Discord I was able to emulate his fix on Jedi Fallen Order on ME Legendary Edition. There is some issues that you can easily overcome.

1. No cursor in menu - u gotta use down and up keys and move your mouse until you see highlighted options being reactivated and move down with mouse until continue is selected - a monkey can learn this tactic.

2. Don't use blur if screen is blurred, disable that option.

3. Place files in ME 1, Me2 and M3 in the win64 folders of each game.

Game looks spectacular with good conv and depth - so fix is viable to play with the glory of 3D vision in a 40 or 30 series. Do try alt + f3 geforce experience shaders *I haven't tested yet* and try my usual: Sharpening and +sharpening with max detail.

The files are annexed, enjoy and happy New Year and happy birthday to me. Thank you DJ-RK.
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[BazzaLB]

Hey, Happy Birthday!

[UnityBeing]

Hey, Happy Birthday!

Thank you BazzaLB,

Have a Happy New Year and may all good tidings come your way. Enjoy 3D.

[UnityBeing]

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[UnityBeing]

Hi,

Been trying to hack work watch dogs 2 on my 4070ti with DSS fix, 3DFM and DJ-RK's Fix with my own innovative take.

I get image with shaders loaded too, but that is only by request if it helps. I'll place here the files where it says 3D vision is disabled and 32 dll is requested and shaders loaded. Please help if u can. Stop corp and profit poop. Let's bring back Helix.

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[UnityBeing]

Hi gents and ladies,

I was able to get Deus Ex: Human Divided fixed and hacked with Abwezi's own work. I worked hard. It was good to get it working thought. Enjoy.

i.e. Download all rar files and then select all and uncompress together. Steam has to be offline.

Follow screenshots and use common sense of how geo11 works. Thanks Dave and Abwezi.


Common sense and hard to find help": https://www.reddit.com/r/Deusex/comment ... ?rdt=33448

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[UnityBeing]

Hiya all,

thanks to a dear friend of mine from the usa that is playing modern doom I decided to hack Doom BFG and make it work for 30 and 40 series, and maybe 20 series if there are problems. Took passionate work but was easy, I'm getting used to it.

Enjoy and if any issues arises pls don't be shy and comment for free technical support, I'm here to serve you all great 3D community.

Best Regards,

Miguel Pedras
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[UnityBeing]

Hey gents and ladies,

So far I had success hacking Prey 2017 - Menu is in 3D and looks boinkers good. I'll annex the files here if u wish to help me hack it, but alas rarely I get help here besides some legends. Please assist me? if u can.

I'll be posting here the progression, if I achieve or not - Menu is in 3D and shaders are loaded. Mission accomplished in my books until someone can take the work and improve it furthermore.

Enjoy your day,

Miguel Pedras
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[UnityBeing]

Ingame is in 3D!!! Asking master for assistance on auto conv, I don't know how to fix that, I'm a hacker. enjoy this progression. I've done what i could, will keep u all updated.
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[Dark_saiyens]

I gotta a helixmod member with a solution for GTA V, here are the quotes and files the person shared with me:

viewtopic.php?p=189210#p189210
"Re: geo-11 Grand Theft Auto V Benchmarks
Post by Chtiblue » Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:42 am

Yeah good news, I can confirm GTAV is still working fine in Geo-11 3D using 3Dmigoto loader.exe to hook d3d11.dll

https://discord.com/channels/5157038646 ... 5143380029:

"Good news, GTAV is still working fine in Geo-11 3D using 3Dmigoto loader.exe to hook d3d11.dll

Just change in d3dx [Loader] section
target = ...\GTAV.exe
with your GTAV path"

Thanks i am gonna try it !

[marcus locos]

6.90 doesn't let 3D kick in on my 4070ti tuf oc. No point.

I have a 4070Ti Super and The Forest with Geo-11 6.90 runs without any problems.

[UnityBeing]

Greetings ZeGuru, I need your assistance with Rage 2 with default fix - I get a crash when trying to launch. I tried about everything to get it to work. I got latest nvidia drivers and 4070ti tuf oc. Could you help me?

[UnityBeing]

Hi,

Is Days Gone working in dx9 path for 40 series, please share the files.

[UnityBeing]

I recently also purchased a 4090 and wanted to report my findings for different games I have tried so far.

I play on a LG OLED 65 E1 and usually try to use the interlaced settings for Geo11 (or TAB or SBS) and native 4K resolution.
If no special Geo11 fix exists I usually try to change the setting force_stereo=2 in the existing d3dx.ini file and copy all files from the Devil May Cry 5 fix beside the ShaderFiles folders, because I heard that that seems to include the latest Geo11 version (maybe I am wrong)

Here is the list of games I have tested so far (sorry if maybe there are some duplicates from the initial list of this post).
- Assassins Creed Unity (fix from the forum here, messed up, one eye issue, blocky artefacts around characters etc but performance seems finally ok)
- Anthem (3D does not kick in with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11, has several error messages at startup)
- Ascent (works fine with latest Universal UE4 fix 9.12)
- Atomic Heart Demo ((works fine with latest Universal UE4 fix 9.12 but full version from Game Pass crashes on startup)
- Battlefield V (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11)
- Callisto Protocol (has startup error with with UE4 9.12 but works with older version but is then broken)
- Control (works fine with fix from HelixBlog)
- Days Gone (works fine with fix from HelixBlog)
- Devil May Cry 5 (works fine with fix from HelixBlog)
- God Of War (works fine with fix from HelixBlog)
- GTA V (works fine with 3Dmigoto loader, see viewtopic.php?t=26746&start=40)
- Hitman 2 (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11, but has some strange stutters in benchmark)
- Kena (works fine with latest Universal UE4 fix 9.12 when disabling Epic Overlay)
- Kingdome Come Deliverance (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11)
- Metro Exodus (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11)
- Mortal Kombat 11 (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11)
- Outriders (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11)
- Resident Evil 2 (works fine with fix from HelixBlog)
- Sifu (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11 when disbaling Epic Overlay)
- Star Wars Jedi Falle Order (works ok with UE4 9.12 + Shader Cache from fix + Geo11, some strange artefacts and shader compilation stutter without shader cache)
- Star Wars Battlefreont 2 (works fine with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11, must disbale EA Overlay otherwise crash)
- Watch Dogs Legion (3D does not kick in with fix from HelixBlog + Geo11. Several error messages at startup)
- Witcher 3 (Works fine with fix from HelixBlog)

I hope this helps some other people with a similar setup.
I have an Ryzen 3900X and the performance with the new 4090 is way better than with my old 2080.

I am looking forward for new fixes and maybe some day we will even have an solution for DX12 but I am glad that so many games already work with Geo11 and such good performance so that finally it is possible to play in native 4K and glorious 3D without the old 3 core bug.

And thanks to Dave and bo3d and masterotaku and all the other shader hackers (DHR, Losti, ...) for Geo11 and all the great fixes, so that 3D is still alive even in 2023.
I already donate to you via patreon since some time and I am very thankful that you keep our hobby alive.

Hi,

Is Days Gone working in dx9 path for 40 series, please share the files.

[Darkbluesky]

Hello,

I upgraded to an RTX4090 a short time ago and wanted to share my thoughts on how 3D Vision games work on this graphics card. There aren't that many testimonials on the forum.

...

Hi, thanks a lot for this, very useful indeed.

I see you tested Unravel, did you test it also in sbs (of course with geo11)? I have tested it and in sbs it works but the screen is half width (!), the image is compressed to 960x1080 (if you play at fullHD), centered in the screen with black vertical bars at right and left. I have tried to set upscaling=1, but nothing changes. Please, could you test it in sbs and see if it is like that also for you? I do not know how to solve this...

[b4thman]

I wonder if it is the same using RTX 5080/90

[ZeGURU69]

Hello,

I upgraded to an RTX4090 a short time ago and wanted to share my thoughts on how 3D Vision games work on this graphics card. There aren't that many testimonials on the forum.

...

Hi, thanks a lot for this, very useful indeed.

I see you tested Unravel, did you test it also in sbs (of course with geo11)? I have tested it and in sbs it works but the screen is half width (!), the image is compressed to 960x1080 (if you play at fullHD), centered in the screen with black vertical bars at right and left. I have tried to set upscaling=1, but nothing changes. Please, could you test it in sbs and see if it is like that also for you? I do not know how to solve this...

I played it with GEO11 in TAB with the DSR 4X activated, I don't remember having this type of problem

[ZeGURU69]

I wonder if it is the same using RTX 5080/90

It's exactly the same thing, it all depends on the driver. No problem with the first driver released for the RTX5090 but the latest drivers seem to have the annoying tendency to crash geo11 games in dx9 mode with reboot of the pc. With the latest driver released - 576.80 - my pc reboots most of the time as soon as I alt+tab on a game with geo11/dx9