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CES to showcase S3D

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CES to showcase S3D
DLP Link for theater among introductions
by David S. Cohen

For about a year, stereo 3D (S3D) for the home has been the "next big thing," though official standards have been slow to arrive and devices have been mostly at the demo stage. Fox's "Avatar" is expected to be the "dam-burster" (in Jeff Katzenberg's parlance) for live-action S3D pics and to further boost fan interest in S3D movies.Tokyo -- Bandai Channel, a toon specialty channel, plans to encode its pay toon content to protect copyright holders and foil freeloaders.

But home S3D devices are expected to be a major component of next month's Consumer Electronics Show, and at least one player in the S3D space isn't waiting until then to make a splash.

Xpand, the only current purveyor of active/shutter glass S3D for movie theaters, is making an aggressive move in hopes of becoming the de facto standard for home 3D, introducing technology that will make millions of existing computer monitors and laptop screens "3D-ready" overnight -- but only with Xpand glasses.

Company's active shutter glasses have electronics built in that cause each lens in turn to darken to solid black, then lighten again, many times a second, so the viewer only sees out of lens at a time (a.k.a. "frame sequential"). The glasses pick up a signal from the projector to stay in sync with the screen. Imax 3D led the S3D revival in the 1990s with a similar active-glasses system.
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This "DLP Link" for S3D projectors is interesting. (If I'm shopping for an S3D projector, I'll wait for CES announcement and probably get one with this "DLP Link" just in case.)

But this part is confusing:
Coming at CES is the announcement of "DLP Link," a new way of syncing active glasses with the screen. DLP Link will be built into all home-theater projectors with the Texas Instruments DLP chip. Xpand will support DLP Link with new glasses.

Moreover, DLP Link works on laptops and PCs with a small sync transmitter that plugs into a USB port. According to Xpand CEO Maria Costeira, the new system works with any existing laptop or personal computer "with a decent graphics card."

If it works as promised, the DLP Link/Xpand combo it can offer consumers a powerful value proposition: Turn your PC or laptop into an S3D display with glasses and a USB dongle. That would open the door for S3D streaming and provide a ready-made user base for S3D Blu-ray.
I think it should be "Turn your PC or laptop into an S3D display with glasses and a USB dongle and an S3D projector with DLP link". Missing the biggest, most costly component here.

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Yup, you may have noticed IZ3D's DLP mode is free for ATI users...
these red glasses and the HD5... will make a terrible bundle that will work with lots of TVs and DLP projectors begining 2010.

I believe Nvidia will be forced to broaden their supported displays list, which really is for the best ...

These are really good news (well not so new tbh ;) but it's ultra Hot

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DLP link ?
*is this a commercial name for the current standard Vesa 3-pin miniDIN 3D sync connector or is it some new connector to make it exclusive to Xpand ?
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As i understand it, i believe the image itself is synching glasses using color flashes between images.

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3Dward wrote: the image itself is synching glasses using color flashes between images.
Yep, that's clever, however what about error rates?

"DLP-Link is a communication protocol that uses the DLP chip inside DLPTV and DLP Projectors. The DLP chip sends a flash of light in the transition between Left and Right images, and the glasses that are recognizing this encoded white signal are syncing to the image. These glasses do NOT require emitter and work with Mitsubishi and Samsung DLP TV, and 3D ready projectors."

TI announcement
http://thejournal.com/Articles/2009/06/ ... ology.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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http://www.xpand3dtv.com/xpand-x102--dl ... a1023.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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http://www.vrlogic.com/html/f10_as3d.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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So if I read beyond that crap PR talk.

DLP link is exclusive to DLP based TVs and projectors
DLP link will require new shutter glasses and is not compatible with previous shutter glasses.
DLP link DOES use an emitter but is already included in all DLPTVs : that is the image itself transmitting a signal in the visible light spectrum

Damn it, if you want to use light, what is wrong with IR ???
You know what, i predict a failure for this technology in the home. Exclusivity of expansive shutter glasses will not encourage users to buy 3D hardware, we need universal compatibilty of shutter glasses to promoto 3D.

EDIT :
alright after reading the article it all makes much much more sense.

IT's not aimed at the home market
It's aimed at large audience rooms to make it easier to setup a 3D projection system, for short useage time.
The glasses will be exclusive and specifically designed to be not interoperable with home theater systems because they will be mass produced and sold cheap.
It allllll makes muuuuuch more sense now.
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Not for home systems ?
I wouldn't be surprised if, by 2015, you could find 3d DLP glasses bundled with DVDs and people barely realising their TVs or players have anything to do with it.

I'm a bit like you regarding all the flashes...
Logic preaches for polarised screens for they will offer the best refresh rate to each eye...
but they mean extra costs to produce lenses, while here those who don't want to wear glasses also benefit of the extra value they paid for...another kind of logic isn it ?

If DLP has been appointed as the quickest way to educate the masses:
- On the bright side of the coin, 600Hz TVs viewed with DLP glasses could still play smoother than what we're used to .
- On the dark side, "error rates" might flash brighter on certain 3D TV channels during presidential campaigns ... but then you can just switch to console games. :lol:

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