1080P@120Hz LED Projectors

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1080P@120Hz LED Projectors

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The Asus H1 LED will use a .65 dmd and will accept a 4k input but only have a 1080P resolution.

LED offers 30,000 hours of illumination and unlike regular bulb projectors, will not dim over time.

It will be HDCP 2.2 compliant with 3D support. Side by Side, Top and Bottom and Frame sequential via DLP Link glasses.
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/Proj ... EM_WEB.pdf (page 51)

I had at least 24000 hours on my ViewSonic PLED-W500, yah it got a lot of use, lol.
A lot was for TV/Video viewing, in addition to gaming

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Re: 1080P@120Hz LED Projectors

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BenQ has a 1080P@120Hz "4" LED projector, model X1300i
A little more expensive than the H1, but 4 LED could be a huge plus. On my PLED W500 some colors were a bit off, which was inherent to the 3 LED technology.
The trade off vs a bulb projector was worth it imo for gaming and TV. For movies I'd use my Acer HD 6510 or LG passive TV
https://www.benq.com/en-us/projector/ga ... ector.html
https://www.benq.com/en-us/knowledge-ce ... olors.html


https://esupportdownload.benq.com/esupp ... 175341.pdf
page 38
3D Mode
Auto/Frame Sequential/Frame Packing/Top Bottom/Side by Side/Off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXH16ZZdJj4

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Re: 1080P@120Hz LED Projectors

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It seems that these projectors are using new LED technology
https://www.ledsmagazine.com/specialty- ... eds-at-ces

This guy is using the BenQ at 187 inches for gaming
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/benq-x ... t-60567357

The first LED projectors were 500 lumens and then later pushed to 1000 lumens, at 3000 lumens, these new ones will be awesome for 3D.

Supposedly the BenQ implements some type of Dynamic Iris to help black levels that is different than the traditional Dynamic Iris. It's interesting, because you typically only see this available on projectors at higher price points.
Gregory/Kraine wrote:The 500,000: 1 contrast level of the X1300i is provided by the Dynamic Iris of the LEDs which is characterized by a very smooth and fast dimming capability and which can be intelligently adjusted by Dynamic Black ™ technology to determine the light level and the appropriate black level to match the dynamic scene, and react faster and more efficiently compared to the traditional system designed by Dynamic Iris hardware to improve HDR tone mapping when playing an HDR game or watching an HDR movie. As LEDs are static components in the optical engine, they also improve actuation stability and even silence when watching a movie or playing games.

So the quality of the firmware and actual technology concepts will determine the level of contrast ability.
quoted from https://www.avsforum.com/threads/benq-x ... t-60099061


For those that have no idea what a Dynamic Iris is
https://www.benq.com/en-us/knowledge-ce ... -iris.html

Edit: BTW I have no idea how fragile these are, I know that I had my PLED-W500 temporarily set up for testing and tripped over the HDMI cable, the PJ fell about 6 feet and knocked out the red LED. But regular projectors would suffer a similar fate.

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Re: 1080P@120Hz LED Projectors

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So we still need someone to test this projector in 3d vision to see if it works?

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Re: 1080P@120Hz LED Projectors

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Gatorkea wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 3:57 pm So we still need someone to test this projector in 3d vision to see if it works?
I don't think anyone has tried yet, but I expect them to work as there are quite a few models which natively support 1080p@120Hz Frame Sequential.
Worst case, you might have to use the DLP Link glasses and you might need to do a hack/workaround to avoid 3d tv play kicking in. You might be able to force that with 3dfm, I'm not sure.
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Re: 1080P@120Hz LED Projectors

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I just ordered the x1300i, will get it Thursday.

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Re: 1080P@120Hz LED Projectors

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Awesome, I hope you like it.

Here's the French review link
https://www.passionhomecinema.fr/blog/i ... e-gregory/

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Re: 1080P@120Hz LED Projectors

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Played with the x1300i a little bit so far it is pretty good, but compared to the HD27HDR, I am not sure it is much better for picture quality, but it does seem brighter, but I could also need a new bulb in the HD27HDR. I got the x1300i working in my pc just fine , using the 3dtv play option, I got the double image but 3d vision glasses would not show 3d. I then tried a game , I got a black screen so I restarted my pc and still black screen, I have tried everything I know to do. Switching HDMI ports on both projector and my pc, tried connecting to other displays then going back to the projector, nothing works. So I spent a a little time testing out 2D games and 3d movies on my Xbox one. I may return it, I think the HD27HDR has more accurate colors that pop better.

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Re: 1080P@120Hz LED Projectors

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3DTV Play requires the use of the manufacturer or 3rd party glasses and has no support for 3D Vision glasses. The 3D Vision emitter will never activate when 3DTV Play is shown in the NVCP.
DLP Link glasses are required unless the projector has a VESA port for an emitter, then you can use a manufacturer or 3rd party solution for an emitter with glasses.

You need to use Generic CRT.
You can use 3D Manager for that, be sure to use the HDMI 2.0/2.1 input and not the HDMI 1.4 for 1080Pb 120Hz input.

The black screen could likely be the result of a bad HDMI cable or one that is too long.
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