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PlayStation 5 / XBox Series X Incoming...

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:25 pm
by RAGEdemon
PS5 specs below:

https://www.wired.com/story/exclusive-playstation-5/

Since the vast majority of PC games are multi-platform console ports, it looks like we PC gamers will soon be seeing Super RyZen 8 Core 16 Thread games, supremely improved graphics, and all of the following:

(credit - u/kuroinferuno on reddit)

General Info:

The official name is PlayStation 5.

Releasing Holidays 2020.

Ray tracing support is hardware-based.

New SSD will help boot times, loading times and streaming.

The controller now has adaptive triggers, haptic feedback, new speakers, USB Type-C.

Physical games for the console will use 100 GB optical disks.

Optical drive also acts as a 4k Blu-ray player.


Additional Info

The dev kits (which were leaked) are actually real and developers have access to them.

A new modular approach to storing data. Finer grain access to data, as opposed to big blocks. Ex: Users might have the ability to install only Multiplayer components of the game.

Completely revamped UI.

The new controller will have a larger battery capacity and will be a bit heavier than Dualshock 4.

Haptic feedback for PS4 Pro's Dual Shock 4 could have been implemented, but was decided against.

Bluepoint studios (folks behind the Shadow of the Colossus remaster) are working on a "big" PS5 title.

The GPU has been used to power Machine learning.
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XBox Series X confirmed pecs:

CPU Zen2 8c16t - wow.
GPU: RTX 2080 equivalent - double wow.

Edit: added confirmed details.

Re: PlayStation 5 Incoming...

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:29 pm
by 3DNovice
I recently played The Order 1886 on the PS4, it received bad reviews since it was more of an interactive movie than a game.

For a game released in Feb 2015, the graphics were amazing, Along with the setting in London, the steampunk theme, plus Lycans and Vampires, I thoroughly enjoyed it. For what it is.

3D would be icing on the cake, it's too bad it never released on the PC.

While I'm looking forward to new and better games, I'll sorely miss 3D in the ones that have no way to play it stereoscopically.

At least Sony is still pushing their VR heavily and will be releasing a newer headset.

Re: PlayStation 5 Incoming...

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:28 am
by whyme466
It sounds like XBox Scarlett (another 2020 next gen console) may actually include VR support this time. In addition to full 4K support, XBox One was supposed to include VR capabilities, but VR was dropped shortly before console release. For example, a discussion about a VR floormat - see https://www.roadtovr.com/microsoft-virt ... r-headset/.

Re: PlayStation 5 Incoming...

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:59 pm
by Necropants
Unless it has full backwards compatibility with ps4 and 3 I have absolutely no reason to get one other than maybe 4 years down the lines when it actually has some games.
Interesting to see how this next gen will impact PC gaming. I assume since they are pushing ray tracing and god forbid 8k I assume don't be expecting 60fps on console any time soon.

Re: PlayStation 5 Incoming...

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:40 pm
by whyme466
PSVR (with PS4 Pro) offers some unique game titles that really should be experienced - like Farpoint, RE7 (still one of the most intense VR experiences available), Blood and Truth, and Astrobot. A second gen PSVR (potentially wireless) will be releasing sometime after PS5 releases. Sony does a good job with a lot of their exclusive games like Horizon Zero Dawn.

Re: PlayStation 5 Incoming...

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:29 am
by 3DNovice
Ghost Giant looks very interesting for the PSVR.

It's made by Zoink games, the Devs behind Stick it to the Man.

Astro Bot Rescue Mission is also on my PSVR wish list, due to the very positive reviews.

Re: PlayStation 5 Incoming...

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:35 am
by 3DNovice
Interesting, I assumed that Borderlands 2 VR would be a PSVR exclusive, like the first.

It will be on Steam next week

https://store.steampowered.com/app/9912 ... ands_2_VR/

Re: PlayStation 5 Incoming...

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:48 pm
by P.C.Zen
I'd be interested in hearing about backwards compatibility also.

I buy all of my gaming stuff retrospectively and if I could skip over the current hardware and run this generation's games on the next generation tech that would be absolutely fantastic.

Unfortunately, if I had to put money on it, I wouldn't bet on backwards compatibility.

Re: PlayStation 5 Incoming...

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:42 am
by RAGEdemon
Confirmed XBox specs:

CPU: 8c16t Zen2
GPU: RTX 2080 equivalent...

Holy Smokes Batman; we're in for quite a ride!

A cynical viewpoint is that this means that next year, we'll all likely be playing some next gen amazing looking games, but at ~30fps in 2D . 3DV fps ought to be ~15fps, even with RTX 2080 and a 8c16t CPUs. I hope it will be better...

https://youtu.be/qTYuYvD_TU0

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/02/24/ ... on-gaming/

Extrapolating, I guess this means that if you're looking to upgrade or build a new system, then getting less than a 8c16t CPU or a RTX 2080 equivalent is crazy - and even this will quickly become a low end system for PC gaming over the next few years :o

Let's hope the 3DV CPU core bug doesn't affect performance too significantly...

Edit: links

Re: PlayStation 5 Incoming...

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 7:38 am
by masterotaku
RAGEdemon wrote: Let's hope the 3DV CPU core bug doesn't effect performance too significantly...
Let's hope console game devs target 60fps, because if they make 30fps games with that CPU that is close to desktop Ryzen PCs... we'll be screwed. PC gamers in general, because there won't be much headroom to brute force higher fps.
30 to 60? Maybe. 60fps in 3D on the other hand...

However, Shadow of the Tomb Raider showed that DX12 can be very efficient for the CPU in 3D compared to DX11.

Re: PlayStation 5 / XBox Series X Incoming...

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:21 am
by Shift-E
While I do look forward to the jump in GPU/CPU power of these consoles improving our PC ports, I do worry about the push they both will be making in regards to ray tracing. I realize ray tracing is the future, but it is not so good for us in the 3D community...as PC games with ray tracing require DX12. Its only a matter of time before more titles stop including an option for DX11, and include only DX12 (or vulcan etc). We have already seen big titles like Red Dead and COD do this. I hate to sound like a pessimist (can't help it), but I shudder at the thought of going back to 2D gaming...so I worry about such things. Hopefully its a slow transition and DX11 is still included in the vast majority of games for this next generation..

All I know is my console days are over.

Re: PlayStation 5 / XBox Series X Incoming...

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:54 pm
by skyrimer
I fear that too, but with my current backlog, VR and 3d emulated consoles like Wii, PS2, etc I think I will be playing in 3D for quite a few years even if DX12/Vulcan gets a rapid adoption, something I'm not so sure of, it's very early days for raytracing tech.