Sony Tells (Almost) All About PS3 Firmware Upgrade
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Neil
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Sony Tells (Almost) All About PS3 Firmware Upgrade
This is an interview with Don Mesa, Senior Product Marketing Manager for Sony Computer Entertainment at CES 2010.
Very interesting interview! Share your thoughts and comments.
Regards, Neil
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Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:21 pm
taz291819
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Re: Sony Tells (Almost) All About PS3 Firmware Upgrade
Hmm, I guess that confirms it, current 3D-Ready displays will need a converter even with the PS3.
Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:45 pm
Likay
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Joined: Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:34 pm Posts: 1846 Location: Sweden
Re: Sony Tells (Almost) All About PS3 Firmware Upgrade
I wonder how far the sony stereoformat will go. Is it a standard yet thus disabling all current stereodevices for future 3d? Can't really imagine this but it could happen...
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I really wish the MTBS crew would have asked specifically about whether the PS3 would be compatible with the checkerboard method. Or maybe they were told not to ask that question?
Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:49 pm
DmitryKo
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Re: Sony Tells (Almost) All About PS3 Firmware Upgrade
You heard it, HDMI 1.3 devices won't be supported - why would Mitsubishi release a converter box... How cute, "we're starting with HDMI 1.4"... talk about lack of any foresight which results in a digital interface based on 10 year old technology with half as..ed specs that are never complete enough. Oops, we forgot about L-R frame metadata for shutter glasses... oops, we missed Full HD 120 hz... opps, can't transmit 1080p60 over 10 m even with a $250 cable etc.
DisplayPort 1.2 features twice the bandwidth (17.2 Gbit/s), stable 1080p60 operation with standard 15 m cable, and features support up to 240 Hz frame sequential Full HD stereo, up to 4Kx2K @24 Hz side-by-side, and probably up to 4Kx2K @60 Hz though dual interface, as well as support for multiple stacked displays -which is practically everything you should ever need for any stereoscopic application in the next 10 or so years, so there would be no need to buy some stupid format conversion box or a new display each time Sony and other HDMI Founders screw something up. By 2015, every PC monitor and video card and most gaming consoles and TV sets will feature DisplayPort, so both consumers and the industry will be more than happy to jump off the HMDI bandwagon.
Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:08 pm
taz291819
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Re: Sony Tells (Almost) All About PS3 Firmware Upgrade
DmitryKo wrote:
You heard it, HDMI 1.3 devices won't be supported - why would Mitsubishi release a converter box... How cute, "we're starting with HDMI 1.4"... talk about lack of any foresight which results in a digital interface based on 10 year old technology with half as..ed specs that are never complete enough. Oops, we forgot about L-R frame metadata for shutter glasses... oops, we missed Full HD 120 hz... opps, can't transmit 1080p60 over 10 m even with a $250 cable etc.
DisplayPort 1.2 features twice the bandwidth (17.2 Gbit/s), stable 1080p60 operation with standard 15 m cable, and features support up to 240 Hz frame sequential Full HD stereo, up to 4Kx2K @24 Hz side-by-side, and probably up to 4Kx2K @60 Hz though dual interface, as well as support for multiple stacked displays -which is practically everything you should ever need for any stereoscopic application in the next 10 or so years, so there would be no need to buy some stupid format conversion box or a new display each time Sony and other HDMI Founders screw something up. By 2015, every PC monitor and video card and most gaming consoles and TV sets will feature DisplayPort, so both consumers and the industry will be more than happy to jump off the HMDI bandwagon.
Excellent point. HDMI should have done the exact same specs are DisplayPort, it's not the physical wire couldn't handle the bandwidth.
Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:43 pm
pixel67
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Re: Sony Tells (Almost) All About PS3 Firmware Upgrade
How ignorant. All of these pre 1.4 displays (my sammy and Optoma projector included) will need another upgrade (aka, hack) to play content.
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Okta wrote:
Just dont buy Sony.
Why not? If there is a war they will probably win with PS3/BluRay one-two-punch.
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Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:44 pm
DmitryKo
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Re: Sony Tells (Almost) All About PS3 Firmware Upgrade
You mean, like Sony won in Betamax, Compact Disc, DAT, MiniDisc/Hi-MD, ATRAC, Video8/Digital8, SACD, MMCD, and Blu-ray format wars? Oh, wait, something is wrong about this list of successful formats from Sony...
Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:10 pm
Likay
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Re: Sony Tells (Almost) All About PS3 Firmware Upgrade
DmitryKo wrote:
You mean, like Sony won in Betamax, Compact Disc, DAT, MiniDisc/Hi-MD, ATRAC, Video8/Digital8, SACD, MMCD, and Blu-ray format wars? Oh, wait, something is wrong about this list of successful formats from Sony...
Re: Sony Tells (Almost) All About PS3 Firmware Upgrade
very good news from sony!
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Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:48 pm
Anthony1
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Re: Sony Tells (Almost) All About PS3 Firmware Upgrade
Wow, pretty shocking. I can't say that I'm too surprised by this. I knew that Sony wouldn't release the firmware update (allowing 3D), till they actually had something to sell to the public. So I knew that the firmware wasn't going to come until the Summer (at the earliest), assuming their new 3D enabled Bravias actually come out this summer. What I didn't know, was that it was going to require a display with HDMI 1.4. How lame. I honestly think that they could have had it work with older 1.3 hdmi 3D enabled devices, but because none of those displays are sold by Sony, why would they do that? No, they'd rather force people to buy a new set with hdmi 1.4, hoping that these people will end up buying one of theirs. I can tell you right now that I won't ever buy a Sony display as long as I can help it. It's shenanigans like this that make me never want to buy another Sony product in my life. The only reason I have a PS3, is because there are too many good game developers (Naughty Dog, Insomniac, etc) that are PS3 specific, and I wouldn't want miss out on their games.
Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:18 pm
klikklak
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Re: Sony Tells (Almost) All About PS3 Firmware Upgrade
Oh bugger, then I'm guessing that it wont work with the Acer projector that looked cheap and good. Damn it. Hopefully there'll be other projectors for sale with HDMI1.4 by summer. Then again, it's just a stop gap for me, until Linux gets decent stereo support. But it does raise the question if a PS3 is actually worth it for S-3D purposes. I still haven't bought any gear, so I've got time to mull it over...
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