KENA Bridge of Spirits is working great in 3D with Losti's Universal UE4 Fix in DX11 and W10 !

Post by **DugomFirst** » Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:26 am

KENA Bridge of Spirits seems to have loose its protection, will someone try to launch it in 3D ? It's an UE4 game.

Some tweaks:
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Kena: ... of_Spirits

Post by **thebigdogma** » Tue Sep 21, 2021 9:48 am

I am playing it now - looks fantastic!

A couple of things you need to do to keep the game from crashing and to play it in glorious S3D...

1. The game defaults to DX12. So, before you attempt to install the universal fix, disable 3DV in the Nvidia control panel, then start the game. Once in the game, change to DX11 and exit.
2. Re-enable 3DV.
3. Make sure that you rename the Epic Games launcher "overlay" folder to something else ( folder can be found in epic games/launcher/portal/extras path) - once you are done with your play session, make sure to change the folder name back to "overlay"
4. Go through the usual process of using the universal fix and you should be good to go!

A few screens...

Post by **Losti** » Tue Sep 21, 2021 10:14 am

Wooooow this is looking fantastic. Hows the Gameplay?

Thank you for let us know how to start the game. If you simply install it and Start it with the Universal fix config tool is not working?? Because it forces dx11 startup?

Post by **thebigdogma** » Tue Sep 21, 2021 10:27 am

Gameplay is solid - combat is simple, but tight (I am really early in the game, so can't comment about how deep system becomes.) jumping and exploration is solid as well - seems like a very well-executed game.

No... config tool doesn't work initially - seems like game is overriding the DX11 request. The game works, on initial boot, like a game that is DX12-only. Once you are able to get into the game's options and change to DX11, then 3DV can be enabled and the fix process can be executed normally.

Post by **Losti** » Tue Sep 21, 2021 10:36 am

thebigdogma wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 10:27 am Gameplay is solid - combat is simple, but tight (I am really early in the game, so can't comment about how deep system becomes.) jumping and exploration is solid as well - seems like a very well-executed game.

No... config tool doesn't work initially - seems like game is overriding the DX11 request. The game works, on initial boot, like a game that is DX12-only. Once you are able to get into the game's options and change to DX11, then 3DV can be enabled and the fix process can be executed normally.

Nice to know and again much thank you for investigsting ans reporting!

Post by **Lysander** » Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:36 am

excellent, i had high hopes for this game to work in 3d, looks fantastic!

Post by **DugomFirst** » Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:42 pm

thebigdogma wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 9:48 am 4. Go through the usual process of using the universal fix and you should be good to go!

Using the Asus PG278QR, I get the "attempt to run Stereoscopic 3D in non-stereo"...

Ok so I use 3DFM to activate 3D, and now the message isnt appearing anymore.

When 3D is activated I get the picture moving to the left like 3D does, but can't see the second one to appear, both eyes from the glasses see only the same "picture", I haven't both eyes pictures...

FYI: 3DVision is working fine with "Tell me why".

Get 3D working, isn't that easy nowsdays ! ; )

Post by **Serzhas** » Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:53 am

Woohoo!!!

Thanks for reporting! And special THANKS to Losti, for his amazing job on Unreal Engine 4 Universal Fix 2!

Post by **Losti** » Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:53 am

DugomFirst wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:42 pm
thebigdogma wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 9:48 am 4. Go through the usual process of using the universal fix and you should be good to go!
Using the Asus PG278QR, I get the "attempt to run Stereoscopic 3D in non-stereo"...

Ok so I use 3DFM to activate 3D, and now the message isnt appearing anymore.

When 3D is activated I get the picture moving to the left like 3D does, but can't see the second one to appear, both eyes from the glasses see only the same "picture", I haven't both eyes pictures...

FYI: 3DVision is working fine with "Tell me why".

Get 3D working, isn't that easy nowsdays ! ; )

Most of the problems occures due to wrong driver setup or any thing set wrong by users may be. Anything that i can suggest to ensure driver is working well and set up well is to use my tool for clean driver Installation (mit Quick mode) and than install the Universal fix and Start the game with the config tool. May also reinstall the game. Nearly everything users reported due to those not working 3D could be solved this was so far.

Check your Monitor settings in the control panel that the resolution selected is 120 Hz or more at last. Before using 3DFM please try the fix without adding to 3DFM or any settings for the driver by 3DFM after a new Installation of driver. If everything is working now 3DFM can be used. If things not working there seems to be a fundamental issue with the System. May 3DFM can help but not sure. I for one only go without 3DFM. It is a great tool but anything should work without.

Post by **DugomFirst** » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:41 am

Thanks for the help, but I'll finish "Tell me why" before touching anything, I don't want to mess it up.

Post by **Losti** » Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:21 am

DugomFirst wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:41 am Thanks for the help, but I'll finish "Tell me why" before touching anything, I don't want to mess it up.

Sure. And no garant from here that things are changing but from the past and from a state to know everything in the System is ok, thats my way to suggest things to try.

Post by **DugomFirst** » Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:47 am

I'm on W7, so i'll try on W10 also, it's sometime helps. ; )

Post by **Losti** » Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:30 am

Should be fixed now, using UE4-UF2-5.30

viewtopic.php?f=181&t=25844

Cheers!

Post by **DugomFirst** » Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:16 am

Losti wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:30 amShould be fixed now, using UE4-UF2-5.30

I get the help options, HUD is 3D but not the rest. Will try W10 later.

Thanks for the work, as always.

Post by **Losti** » Sat Sep 25, 2021 4:36 am

DugomFirst wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:16 am
Losti wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:30 amShould be fixed now, using UE4-UF2-5.30
I get the help options, HUD is 3D but not the rest. Will try W10 later.

Thanks for the work, as always.

If i set games to win 7 compar mode i have the same issues. I cant tell you about win 7 in real. have you usedtheconfig tool to start the game?

Post by **DugomFirst** » Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:52 am

Got an fatal error with W10 when game is lauching (Patched but launch without .cmd), but it works fine with 3D disable.

So i've made a fresh W10 install, with last 3D drivers ect.

But still won't work.

Fix says no hack detected...

Post by **Losti** » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:20 am

DugomFirst wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:52 am
But still won't work.

Please install your driver via my driver tool i want to make sure all users starting from the same base not to cause issues by driver installation.

PS: Fatal Error can occure, ju may need several gamestarts to get pass it.

Post by **DugomFirst** » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:30 am

Sorry, I've launch LN2 from 3DFM and get those:

LN2 works fine in 3D.

I've try your tool, still does't find hack files...

Post by **Losti** » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:35 am

DugomFirst wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:30 am Sorry, I've launch LN2 from 3DFM and get those:

LN2 works fine in 3D.

I'll try the tool for KENA now.

LN2 ??

==> Can you PLEASE SKIPP 3DFM for the first time? and do what i suggest? ==> please contact me on discord, not to cool chat via threads

1. Install this: viewtopic.php?f=105&t=25361
2. do not choose quick mode and install 452.06 with this tool
3. install UE4-UF2 5.30
4. start it using 00_UE4-UniversalFix-2_Config_EPIC.cmd (in case you purcheased the game on EPIC GAMES or 00_UE4-UniversalFix-2_Config.cmd in case the game is not purcheased on EPIC games), and follow it.

If everything is cool you can use 3DFM for whatever you want later ^^

Post by **DugomFirst** » Sat Sep 25, 2021 11:36 am

Little Nightmares II.

I'll go on Discord.

Post by **DugomFirst** » Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:32 pm

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After hours of research with Losti, game is OK for me on W10.

First you need to put the Universal UE4 Fix in the Win64 folder:
\Kena\Binaries\Win64

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And here the simple solution we found:

With 3D Fix Manager activate the Driver Hack: (Disable it after playing to avoid to be banned, in online games.)

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Then in the Win64 folder, you have to start the game with:
z_ConfigToolMain.cmd

or, if you're uisng the Epic launcher:
z_ConfigToolMain_EPIC.cmd

It will take a moment, then the game will launch, and probably close itseft. Launch the .cmd again, this time the game should not close.

Put the game in FullScreen and DX11, then the 3D will kick.

For the next time, you can launch the original shortcut or make another one with z_Start3D.cmd to force DX11.

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Post by **Losti** » Sat Sep 25, 2021 3:40 pm

We have sorted this out, it was a bug in the driver tool that denies driver hack installation and universal fix tell you this and couldnt launch the game. Thats why 3dfm was needed for the driver hack ONCE.

I have updated the driver changer tool to fix this issue: viewtopic.php?f=105&t=25361&p=181909#p181909

Post by **Losti** » Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:31 pm

Please use Unreal Engine 4 - V5.32 to fix the lights that are not cool with the "CAST investigate circle", i have also added more side shadow issue fixes

Post by **DugomFirst** » Mon Sep 27, 2021 2:29 pm

Losti wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:31 pmPlease use Unreal Engine 4 - V5.32

Thanks for the hard work you do for us and keeping our 3D love alive !

Post by **Serzhas** » Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:40 am

Guys, could anybody suggest how to monitor FPS in 3D Vision games? I've tried MSI Afterburner, but it never displays anything. Maybe there is a proper tool for that? Thanks!

Post by **Losti** » Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:08 am

Serzhas wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:40 am Guys, could anybody suggest how to monitor FPS in 3D Vision games? I've tried MSI Afterburner, but it never displays anything. Maybe there is a proper tool for that? Thanks!

STRG+F9 in game .-) ==> if a 3d fix or migoto is installed.

if this display is too big for you, try fraps may be? Not sure. But afterburner not works for any game as i can see.

Post by **Serzhas** » Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:43 am

Oh, I expected that 3DMigoto has something built-in for that, but didn't knew the shortcut

Thanks a lot, Losti!

Post by **DugomFirst** » Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:01 am

Losti wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:08 am STRG+F9 in game .-) ==> if a 3d fix or migoto is installed.

CTRL + F9 ; )

Post by **Serzhas** » Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:45 am

Guys, does anyone have any suggestions on how to improve Kena performance in 3D? I'm getting 30-40 FPS no matter which settings I use (i5-8600K + 1080Ti). It's still quite playable (and even enjoyable), but I wonder if anything could be done to improve it a bit

Thanks!

Post by **Losti** » Mon Oct 04, 2021 8:05 am

Serzhas wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:45 am Guys, does anyone have any suggestions on how to improve Kena performance in 3D? I'm getting 30-40 FPS no matter which settings I use (i5-8600K + 1080Ti). It's still quite playable (and even enjoyable), but I wonder if anything could be done to improve it a bit Thanks!

I9-9900/rtx 2080ti/ddr4-4233 = 60 fps.

If the settings do not metter i asume its a cpu/mem bottleneck may be. You should Check your cpu load on all cores.

Post by **Serzhas** » Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:09 am

Thanks.

If you only get 60 FPS on 2080Ti, I assume 30-40 FPS I'm getting on HIGH settings isn't that bad, after all! It's still higher FPS than I would have on PS4 but with much better graphics + 3D Vision.

Post by **DugomFirst** » Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:19 am

Serzhas wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:45 am Guys, does anyone have any suggestions on how to improve Kena performance in 3D?

If your 1080Ti is not at 100% charge, then you can try to upgrade your i5.

Post by **Lysander** » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:42 am

Serzhas wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:09 am Thanks. If you only get 60 FPS on 2080Ti, I assume 30-40 FPS I'm getting on HIGH settings isn't that bad, after all! It's still higher FPS than I would have on PS4 but with much better graphics + 3D Vision.

Well, 60 is the max he can get, right? I'm pretty sure he meannt 60 in 3D.

Post by **DugomFirst** » Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:49 am

In 2D Kena is not cpu limited with an 1080Ti:

Source: https://gamegpu.com/rpg/%D1%80%D0%BE%D0 ... st-gpu-cpu

Games that are cpu limited:

If you see a drop of FPS then it's limited by the CPU. (At least in 2D 1080p)

Post by **Serzhas** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:27 am

Losti, in the later parts of Kena I have found a few places where shadows are broken. If you are interested, I can provide a savegame and instructions on how to find them

Post by **Losti** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:19 am

Serzhas wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:27 am Losti, in the later parts of Kena I have found a few places where shadows are broken. If you are interested, I can provide a savegame and instructions on how to find them

Sure. But please try Universal fix 6.0 first, may use the new Alternative mode 1 for shadow fix.

I think i start playing kena today.

Please report back. If Alternative 1 fixes shadows and normal mode not i have to think about making this as Standard ans Switch current Standard with Alternative mode for default

Post by **Serzhas** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:38 am

Will do and report later today! Thanks a lot!

P.S. Kena is an AMAZING game! It has balanced difficulty and is INSANELY beautiful!

UPDATE: Just tried UE4 UF2 v6.01, and I have two things to report:
1. The shadows are now perfectly aligned! Well done, Losti. Yet again!

2. There were a HUGE performance drop in the snowy area (mountains path). With 6.01 I don't see any slow-downs! Yay!

Thanks again, Losti!

Post by **Lysander** » Fri Dec 24, 2021 6:59 am

I am getting abysmal frames in this game in the Village section, most of the area drops to 30fps and sometimes even below. This is at 1080 with about medium settings. But even on everything LOW, it doesnt really help. 2D is about 80fps so kinda the same. Is this what other ppl are experiencing, too? Before the village, I was getting pretty much constant 60. My specs are in the signature. Using UF7.32.

Post by **Losti** » Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:00 pm

Lysander wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 6:59 am I am getting abysmal frames in this game in the Village section, most of the area drops to 30fps and sometimes even below. This is at 1080 with about medium settings. But even on everything LOW, it doesnt really help. 2D is about 80fps so kinda the same. Is this what other ppl are experiencing, too? Before the village, I was getting pretty much constant 60. My specs are in the signature. Using UF7.32.

Please try Universal fix 7.40. There are also some fog improvements. There was an issue with some side culling fix that is off by default now. Try it if its working better now. Otherwhise i need a savegame to check if this is a fix issue.

Post by **Lysander** » Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:52 pm

Here's the savegame to the village https://1drv.ms/u/s!AjZoYW16GPgWiFETZchdMMVIPSZb

If I play in 2D and the fix removed from the folder, I get 100-120fps in that area. So I think it's just the 3DV CPU bottleneck that eats a lot of frames