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Re: Nvidia 3D Vision or Zalman monitor

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:03 pm
by ionone
i'm also new to 3D and for what i've read, i'll go Nvidia 3D Vision. Why ? mainly because i want a 120 hz display monitor to watch movies. Coupled with the plugin Reclock, bybye stuffttering during playback. Man, it hurts everytime i watch a movie and there are panscaped transitions, i stutters so much my eye bleeds. :D

that plus, for me the 3D Vision technology is the best available, i'm not in for the Zalman passive techno.

Re: Nvidia 3D Vision or Zalman monitor

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:47 pm
by BlackShark
That is really funny to read someone so sensitive to this very small stuttering caused by 24Hz->60Hz conversion not being bothered at all with the one caused by 120Hz frame sequential 3D displays (to which the passive Zalman technology is immune).
I just prey very strong for you to never ever see a panscaped shot in 3D on your 3D vision display or I can assure you you will switch back to 2D instantly.

Knowing a bit about 3D, I can definitely assure you 3D vision is not the best. It's good and has great value for money, but it is not the best.

Re: Nvidia 3D Vision or Zalman monitor

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:17 pm
by wnielsenbb
Have to agree some, you are still getting the same 60 Hz of the Zalman, the 120Hz is divided per eye. I, however, don't believe the shutterglasses are going to make it any worse. You could probably run the Zalman at 48 Hz for movies. That might not work well with shutterglasses I think. Fortunatly movie makers know about such things and avoid panning mostly. Not sure what the reclock thing is but I would worry about it messing up the 3D sync.
Warren.

Re: Nvidia 3D Vision or Zalman monitor

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:45 pm
by Likay
The zalman image is always in sync because the images sent to it is l+r interleaved in one frame which isn't the case using 3d-vision where l and r is sent alternatingly. The frequency is 120Hz using 3d-vision but i can even be disturbed by the slight framelag which occurs in a real-d cinema using a circular polarized projector (144Hz). It's especially noticed during fastpaced scenes or pannings like Blackshark describes. The only backside with the zalman should be the narrow horisontal viewing angle and of course the halved resolution in 3d. Inspite these backdrops it actually seems like the zalman still is a very good hardware inspite its age.
Nonethless: 3d vision gives good value for the money and i think you'll be happy with it as well.

Re: Nvidia 3D Vision or Zalman monitor

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:15 am
by ionone
wnielsenbb wrote: Not sure what the reclock thing is but I would worry about it messing up the 3D sync.
Warren.
reclock shift the playback of movies to match the framerate of the monitor. If you own a 60hz monitor, only 30fps movies (TV) would look ok on your screen. Only 120 hz monitors are a multiple of 24, 25 and 30 fps.

What reclock does is for example for movies at 23.976fps to slightly play the image and the sound faster to match 24 fps and to align with the 120 hz. The difference between non sync and synced vid is amazing. I see stutterring evey time the camera pans, and i really hates it, unfortunately i'll be able to have a 120hz monitor only until xmas... :(

Re: Nvidia 3D Vision or Zalman monitor

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:22 am
by ionone
wnielsenbb wrote: You could probably run the Zalman at 48 Hz for movies.
if you can do this i buy a Zalman !

Re: Nvidia 3D Vision or Zalman monitor

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:54 pm
by cybereality
I just tested it out and the Zalman does *NOT* work at 48Hz. From what I can tell the only officially supported refresh rates are 60Hz and 59Hz.