Should I order or should i not?

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przecinek wrote:
pAnatiC wrote:What do you guys think will be the total cost for shipping, taxes - just everything to germany?
Just to let you know. Shipping costs are $100 ($99 to be exact) so you won't be spending $300 but $400.
There has been discussion about taxes. In short : who knows. Maybe you won't have to pay anything, maybe you'll have to pay a lot.

If you have remorse or second thoughts ... I guess you should wait. I like many others have not even thought for split second if I should buy it or not, I would simply die of envy when having to watch all those videos of people with DEV kits praising Oculus.
Whoa! Thats a lot!
100$ shipping hoooly poop.. :(
And ya, the texas. who knosws.

Thats really way more then expected.. :(
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I personally calculate with around ~350€ incuding taxes etc.

Back then I payed 345$ = 275€ including shipment to Germany.
Now sales tax is 0.19% which would be around 52€. And UPS wants some Money for handling the import for you etc ~15$ (11€) ?
I never imported something like this so far thus I have no idea what additional coasts there will be but I guess ~350€(+-) is what you have to expect..

There is this other Thread where they talked about this topic I can't find it right now but the topic was something about changing from UPS to another Service.
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przecinek wrote:Just to let you know. Shipping costs are $100 ($99 to be exact) so you won't be spending $300 but $400.
Shipping costs depend on where you ship. It's $57 to germany.
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Dakor wrote:I personally calculate with around ~350€ incuding taxes etc.

Back then I payed 345$ = 275€ including shipment to Germany.
Now sales tax is 0.19% which would be around 52€. And UPS wants some Money for handling the import for you etc ~15$ (11€) ?
I never imported something like this so far thus I have no idea what additional coasts there will be but I guess ~350€(+-) is what you have to expect..

There is this other Thread where they talked about this topic I can't find it right now but the topic was something about changing from UPS to another Service.
Okay, thats quite a lot. But i guess it SHOULD BE worth it..
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MSat wrote: Ok, so I read a little bit about the USB spec.. The 1000Hz limit stems from the fact that a device operating in "Full speed" mode configured for interrupt transfer can be polled at a max rate of once per millisecond. So, yeah, this shouldn't saturate the bus even if it's connected to a USB hub, and since every device is enumerated separately and the driver loaded for each device, in theory you could have multiple trackers attached and not have a problem. The burden would be placed on the software to appropriately handle each device. So it is technically possible.
There's a few gaming mice that "overclock" the USB ports to 2000Hz. Personally, I've found that the Razer mice software breaks iTunes sync with iPods in the past. I suspect "playing with" the specs of USB isn't a great idea if you want to plug devices in and have them work without any issues. USB is just too critical to mess with I think.
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Innerupzz iz tricky biznezz

Personally, I like Morse Code and 100 miles of line. Solves a lot of problems.
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I ordered mine last night. After seeing Cyberreality get hired on I felt comfortable Oculus will strongly support the community. I really enjoyed tweaking and playing around with Skyrim to get it to perform better on 3D Vision.
LNQ wrote:To give another point of view, I could swing the $300 + additional costs easily and I'm awaiting this revolution of VR like the second coming, but I'm not going to get the dev kit as I don't want the "beta effect" to spoil my first impression. You know, the problem that you've beta tested a game to death, experienced tons of bugs and iterations of the game, causing you to enjoy the final game much less.

I want my Oculus experience to be intact and polished when I put the goggles on. If I get an opportunity to test a dev kit for a few minutes, sure I'll do it. But I will probably not get one myself.
I'm at the opposite side where I appreciate the game more through all the troubleshooting. Don't quote me while I'm banging my head on a particularly difficult problem.
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ElMatarife wrote:
MSat wrote: Ok, so I read a little bit about the USB spec.. The 1000Hz limit stems from the fact that a device operating in "Full speed" mode configured for interrupt transfer can be polled at a max rate of once per millisecond. So, yeah, this shouldn't saturate the bus even if it's connected to a USB hub, and since every device is enumerated separately and the driver loaded for each device, in theory you could have multiple trackers attached and not have a problem. The burden would be placed on the software to appropriately handle each device. So it is technically possible.
There's a few gaming mice that "overclock" the USB ports to 2000Hz. Personally, I've found that the Razer mice software breaks iTunes sync with iPods in the past. I suspect "playing with" the specs of USB isn't a great idea if you want to plug devices in and have them work without any issues. USB is just too critical to mess with I think.

I think the 1000Hz max "interrupt" rate might only be part of the HID spec, but it's probably not a hard rule. If a faster rate is needed, then it could be done by utilizing USB High Speed rather than Full Speed. Regardless, most sensors don't operate that fast, so 1KHz is probably plenty.
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Oh. I gots an ideer. me fix! me fix!

(the problem has not yet shown it's face. But it will. Nip it in the bud, I say)

(I'm going to let this sit for a few days, while I research it...I found an entire market category, and I have to decide what I want to do with it.)
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bugnguts wrote:I'm at the opposite side where I appreciate the game more through all the troubleshooting. Don't quote me while I'm banging my head on a particularly difficult problem.
Let's make a deal. I will forget your post if you forget the post you quoted me on as I now tell you that it took me this long to cave. ;)

After the idea of getting a kit in a few months instead of waiting in all likelihood well over half a year to get a taste of the revolution I have been waiting for for years on end, there was no stopping me. This is different than beta testing a game, I told myself. This is taking a part of something more important. Who knows, maybe I'll get inspired by tinkering with the thing.

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After playing games for 30 years, I think this is gonna be huge. Can't wait to try even an early version.
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If you order it will be trouble, but if you don't it will be double.
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