Optoma HD33 3d projector, 1080p native, hdmi 1.4a

[seattledesi]

how come no one has started posting about this? $1500 retail looks to be an excellent pricing point... will reduce soon i guess.

http://www.amazon.com/Optoma-HD33-1080p ... B005C982NG" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.optomausa.com/products/detail/HD33" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://3dvision-blog.com/tag/optoma-hd33/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://news.consumerreports.org/electro ... ector.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/blog/2 ... ector-1499" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.optomausa.com/company/press- ... -Projector" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[seattledesi]

"The HD33 has also been developed in parallel with the company’s new 3D-RF glasses, which use RF (radio frequency) technology and have been specifically designed to maximize brightness & contrast while eliminating the line of sight and synchronization issues commonly experienced with systems using infra-red (IR) emitters. The new glasses are fully rechargeable; the emitter is included with the projector, while the glasses will be sold separately."

"To further enhance 3D compatibility, Side-by-Side and Top & Bottom formats can be manually enabled to allow other non-HDMI 1.4a compatible devices, such as older set top boxes, Xbox360, or PCs, to display 3D via the VGA or HDMI ports. Accordingly, the HD33 offers two HDMI 1.4a ports, one VGA port, as well as connections for component video, composite video, RS-232, a +12V trigger, and a VESA 3D Port.

3D content can be viewed with RF glasses or DLP Link-based 3D active shutter glasses when used with a 3D-ready player."

Seems RF glasses are listed at $99.. http://www.optomausa.com/products/detail/BG-3DRFGLASSES" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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[seattledesi]

there's also a higher end HD83.

http://asia.optoma.com/News/NewsDetail.aspx?ID=67" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And looks like both hd33 and hd83 come with ISF-enabled versions.. hd3300 and hd8300.
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AVSForum has some solid commentary on the projector.. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1354360" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[seattledesi]

some reviews..

http://www.projectorcentral.com/optoma_ ... review.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.projectorreviews.com/blog/20 ... n-process/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.projectorreviews.com/blog/20 ... irst-look/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.projectorreviews.com/optoma/hd33/index.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[cybereality]

Wow! Seems like the ultimate 3D projector and still doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

[seattledesi]

Cyber, i assume you will get a unit and post an authoritative review

[cybereality]

Cyber, i assume you will get a unit and post an authoritative review

Ha! I would love to but that's just a little outside my price range. I'm still trying to decide if I can afford to get something cheaper like the Acer H5360. Its not even so much the cost of the projector as much as it is getting an HTPC and revamping my living-room into a 3D theater. But a guy can dream, right?

[seattledesi]

i thought i read its tough to find the h5360 in the US market.

Cant we use the influence of MTBS and get you a review unit from Optoma for a few weeks?

[cybereality]

Cant we use the influence of MTBS and get you a review unit from Optoma for a few weeks?

Its possible, but I can't promise anything.

[xhonzi]

My current plan is to ditch the Dual-PJ Rig I was planning and go this route. For the same cost, I would have put up with some extra trouble to go dual PJ, but this is just too affordable to do anything else.

My only problem will be DLP rainbows, if I can still see them with this colour wheel.

I should be ordering in a little over a week, if everything goes to plan.

It will be my first 3D set-up, so I might not have the most objectively valuable comments for you all.

[cybereality]

Awesome xhonzi, let us know how that works out.

[xhonzi]

Well, it was a fun 2 weeks.

The short version is this: The Optoma HD33 gave me too much RBE and the Epson is too laggy for this gamer. So the HD33 was returned and the 3010 is not far behind it.

Back to the ol' 2 PJ drawing board, I guess.

Full(er) details are here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre ... st21179639" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[cybereality]

Thats too bad.

[xhonzi]

You're telling me! I really liked the Epson... but my PJ time is more than 50% games, so it really doesn't make sense.

I played a little Gears3 in 3D last night. It was re-projection so you snobs (no offense intended) wouldn't have been very happy with it, but I still thought it was a blast.

The lag didn't affect Gears too badly, except that sniping was nigh impossible. And I'm generally a pretty good sniper in Gears.

[GordoSan]

xhonzi, I'm surprised that this projector gave off any kind of rainbow effect. I have been hoping to upgrade my aging Optoma HD70 720p projector and have been eyeing this beast. Projector Central gave it such high reviews and even commented about no rainbows whatsoever. Here is what they said:

Color wheel. With a 3x-speed, 6-segment RGBRGB color wheel, the HD33 waves a fond farewell to the rainbow effect. Here's where it gets tricky: the HD33 has a refresh rate of 120Hz and the color wheel goes through three full cycles per frame, for a 3x refresh rate. If this projector were running at 60Hz, the same wheel speed would be referred to as 6x. If you see both numbers around the Internet, this is why. This wheel configuration should eliminate color separation artifacts for all but the most hypersensitive viewers. In fact, this paragraph was almost omitted from the review because, after not seeing any rainbows over several days of testing, I forgot that they were even a concern.

I guess that you are one of the "hypersensitive viewers" that they are talking about. I have some sensitivity issues myself. For one, I have strobe issues that really bother me with certain things. In fact, 3D movies in the theater bother me because I have a hard time keeping focus with the 24fps flicker. Following a Cadillac with LED taillights also does something weird to my brain. If I pass my eyes across those lights, I loose focus of the road for a brief moment. One of the reasons that I was actually interested in this Optoma HD33 was because of the smooth motion technique in 3D. Granted I would NEVER use it on a 2D movie because I hate the way it looks. For 3D, I would imagine it would look fine and improve my problem.

Also, at first I did notice the occasional RBE on my HD70 when I got it but it pretty much went away when the bulb got broken in. The HD33 sounds like it is so bright that you could start off with an ND filter to lower the brightness and calm down any RBE until the lamp settles down over time. I used one on my previous In-Focus DLP projector and that did calm down the RBE for me, bigtime.

[xhonzi]

Thanks for the tip. Maybe I'll get desperate enough to try out the HD33 again with a broken in bulb or a filter. But my RBE sensitivity is apparently very very high.

At first I was worried when I put on the shutters with the 3010. At first I noticed a similar effect (single pictures as I darted my eyes around) as did my wife. For some reason, it went away/we stopped noticing after about 10 minutes the first night and it didn't come back.

Do you get motion sick with high detail carpets or the moving sidewalk at the airport? I can play any game you throw in front of me without motion sickness at all, but the high contrast lines on the moving sidewalk is about enough to send me packing.

[GordoSan]

Certain carpet patterns for sure. I don't seem to remember any of the moving carpets at the airports bothering me, but I do tend to look straight ahead for stuff like that, as opposed to down, as my peripheral vision just works better for that kind of thing. Oddly, I have excellent vision in detail and for color.

My ex used to get very nauseous with certain 3D rendered games (especially flying games) but I've never really had any problems with that. Well, just recently I played the demo for Sonic Generations on 360 and the lousy frame rate did make me feel a little queasy while trying to follow Sonic's blazing speed. It is the first time that this has ever happened, though. The original games on Sega Genesis were 60fps and I never had a problem with them. Same with Dreamcast. I hear that the retail version of Generations for 360 and PS3 is not nearly as bad as the demo, though.

[xhonzi]

My LED Christmas lights give me the same effect as well.

[rowanunderwood]

I simply do not get this projector at all. 1080p 3d, but 24hz only? VGA???? HDMI???? Seriously. What are they thinking? Where is my dual-link DVI 120hz 1080p 3D projector? Is Sony paying folks to keep the refresh rate at 24hz? Calling this full-HD is simply not true. Sorry for the rant but . . . GRRRRR.

[cybereality]

Sony is not paying anyone. Its just a limitation of the HDMI chipsets they are using. New devices (late 2012 early 2013) should have this resolved.

[xhonzi]

I simply do not get this projector at all. 1080p 3d, but 24hz only? VGA???? HDMI???? Seriously. What are they thinking? Where is my dual-link DVI 120hz 1080p 3D projector? Is Sony paying folks to keep the refresh rate at 24hz? Calling this full-HD is simply not true. Sorry for the rant but . . . GRRRRR.

As Cyberreality said above, it's not the projector so much as the current HDMI limitations.

And so it's clear- the projector can handled 1080p@60hz in 2D, but not in 3D. Again, that's a current HDMI bandwidth issue.

And so it's also clear, 24hz is considered (at least until the Hobbit comes out) to be the "best" rate for movies. Make no mistake, the PJ is actually refreshing it at 120hz (or higher) but the rate of film is 24hz, so this is considered to be the "best" rate to transmit.

Games, however are another ball of wax. Maybe a small consolation, but it does support 720p@60hz (framepacked or SBS)or 1080p@60hz side-by-side 50% format as well.

[xhonzi]

The model of the projector discussed here is one of the best projector which has been very popular in the 3D range of projectors. If you read the projector reviews of this model then you will definitely found its features.

Maybe that's what I did wrong... I should have read the reviews first!