Okay this wasn't directed specifically towards me but I'll answer
-The initial arguement was "Does/will/can 3d porn increase rape and sex crimes".
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a google search for "pornography decreases rape" yields many more results. However of course if you were to google "pornography causes rape" you'll also find results, but think of it this way- only a hungry person would steal bread, same applies for sex.
-The consensus of this site as a pro-3d advocacy site was that it does not.
the offender in question has to be retty f-ed up to begin with. As posted above, "playing counterstrike doesn't mean you'll go out and bomb stuff"
-I countered that it does on the grounds that this topic is subject to the same pro-censorship arguements used to censor the possesion of child porn, and while the production thereof places them in different classes, for the purpose of this arguement they are both media that involves abuse with the possibility of encouraging said behavior in the viewer, and therefore within the context of a censorship debate, they are one and the same.
18+ porn is not abuse, child porn is. Some may give the "oh, even 18+ pornstars are brainwashed and are being taken advantage of". How? they are being taken advantage by having an awesome job and also being given huge chunks of cash? in that case by all means "take advantage" of me
-You countered that while you dont advocate the production and viewing of child porn, you dont feel that viewing it, or any other media, causes the viewer to desire to emulate it.
I personally didn't make this point so won't weigh in here.
-I countered that you should explain why you are against possessing child porn but dont see any fault in viewing it. I then reitereated my initial arguement, emphasizing that you can't be both for and against censorship just because you like one media and not another, because the arguements you use against one media you dont like can be used against one that you do.
Atm I'm personally against both since both still need abuse (even if you just ate a cheesburger you still played a part in slaughtering a cow). However, if my time spent watching Law&Order:SVU has taught me anything is that in the future when CGI is perfected then potential child molesters should be encouraged to watch that instead.
-You reiterated your previous arguement, that there is no cause and effect between viewing of media and acting said media out.
I saw some WW2 footage earlier, however I am still not in the mood for mass-slaughter.
-You answered that viewing media that is illegal makes someone a danger because they are knowingly breaking the law
Yeah this doesn't make sense. "the law" is not a universal guide to morality, rather it's stuff some silly politicians voted in - sure there are some good laws, then again there are some silly, nonsensical, or even harmful laws. I guess everyone on the internet is a "danger" because you'll be hard pressed to find someone who didn't downloaded something pirated at one point or another.
-And here is my counter, if someone who is against 3d porn (or any media you may like) finds a way to use the arguements made against child porn against 3d porn, and thereby makes it illegal, and you, not finding fault in the act of viewing 3d porn, acquire it anyways, are you therefore a danger? Or would you willingly give up your right to something that you are for simply because someone has convinced your peers that some part of you is a risk to them?
Very good point and ties in with my reply above. Nope I'd never give it up lol just use extra security.