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WiredEarp
Certif-Eyable!
Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:47 pm Posts: 1172
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Unfortunately, my eDimensional setup is disassembled currently to make way for the Z800 setup, and I don't really wish to play with it. It was very nasty getting my Z800 to work this time around (it needs to be the primary device to display proper stereo) and I don't really want to play with it again.
I'm also missing a battery for the glasses, but if I manage to find one I'll test it against the 3D Vision emitter. My guess is it will NOT be triggered by it.
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| Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:37 pm |
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truhlikfredy
One Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:31 pm Posts: 8
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Yes, but for example the 3Dvision is already reverse engineered and it's proprietary too. So I was wondering what experience have guys with eDimensional protocol.
Perhaps member named WiredEarp could test them how they interfere. He has both of them.
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| Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:00 pm |
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Fredz
Golden Eyed Wiseman! (or woman!)
Joined: Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:06 pm Posts: 1897 Location: Perpignan, France
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Your first question was quite far from being clear, that's why you didn't get the answer you were looking for. You were also not particulary kind with people trying to help you, which didn't help either. In fact I only understood what you wanted by reading your last message. Had you simply posted this question clearly, you would have had the answer faster. Simply have a look here : http://www.stereo3d.com/discus/messages ... 1264457003It's for Elsa Revelator IR codes, which is equivalent to eDimensional according to this topic : http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=36728And by the way, that was a 2 minutes search on Google. Good luck with your project anyway...
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| Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:33 pm |
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cybereality
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Joined: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:18 pm Posts: 10038
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Here is the zip file so its saved for eternity: Attachment: 3D-Revelator_IR_code.zip
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| Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:47 pm |
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truhlikfredy
One Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:31 pm Posts: 8
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Fredz and cybereality Thank you very much. In meantime I begun on something else, but I should be done in 2-3 weeks so then I will start with this project and I will keep you posted when I will be finished. Perhaps to some other folks here could be useful too.
Sorry that I was agitated, but sometimes the forums and the discussion inside just go the opposite way you hoped it will go. So when I can't steer it back I get irritated, I'm sorry. Tell me what was wrong about my fist sentence and my question "Long story short: Does anybody know how the IR protocol for eDimensional glasses work?". I'm genuinely curious if just all my fault, because I see many forums work like this:
You ask for something, they got first suspicion that you didn't read manual even if you stated that you did, you didn't google it even if you did. It's similar sometimes with customer care, when you try to explain them you have very technical problem and you have to for all the time answer ridiculous questions about if the device is powered, if you sit on the right side of the screen (not staring on the back-cover) and this that could do just the stupidest consumers and even when you tell them what is the precise cause of the strange traceroute they will keep you on line for another 30-60 minutes to decide that they can't help you. And there is no way to skip them and ask them directly to get to tech support level 2 or 3 directly. And don't tell me it doesn't irritates everyone else when is there tiny problem, you know what is it, how it can be solved and it could be solved under 30seconds with right person, but you spend 60minutes on the phone doing bullshit and then most-likely won't you transfer you to Level 2 but you have to call next day to exclude it didn't change overnight and next day you doing it from the beginning another 60minutes of the same ....... And yes they are paid to help you but they are doing more damage than helping you.
For example I were working with one embedded compiler and I were looking for one specific pragma parameter, I know that it existed because I reverse-engineered binaries produced by the compiler and I knew that it can do it. It was non-documented feature what was for and used by the compiler-developers them-self. But I got accused from all sides with people that didn't read the manual that I didn't read it, just because they had not clue that it wan't there. So I got "RTFM" "Why is it in fashion that nobody reads manuals.". You couldn't google it, it wasn't in any documents/manuals so perhaps wise people on forums would know it. It took me weeks to explain them that really isn't in the manuals, them they agreed at last. But then WHY I need it, so it was for a specific reason when you mix a lot of ASM and C code that evolved to WHY it can't be everything done in C that evolved to flame war between other brands of C compilers. Then it took me week explain them why is the ASM so important and how tight time-restrains are at that moments that it can't be done else. That got into ASM fanatic war where I should do everything in ASM. So I gave up and after month reverse engineering all libraries (some with debug symbols) helped me to get it, so I posted them what it was that I were looking for and then they 100% agreed that wasn't documented and it's much more handy to use 1-liner to get result than rewriting 100% of C code into ASM.
I think this is problem with forums in general, not that you don't ask what you need and mean, but they didn't believe you and you have to convince them that the question what you are asking is really the question what you want to be answered. And you really mean that when you ask them.
And that's the problem you need to feed background info 'why' you need the answer. Without the background info you won't get . And even when you are 99% done with the project and needs just detail to finish it, then everybody tell you should scrap it and do it different way. But I'm not irritated that I get negative or bad answer to my question, we don't know, try to reverse engineer the rest of the compiler, perhaps you will find it. It irritates me when I get answer to absolutely everything else I didn't asked for.
I spend 2 weeks googling it, I got the 3d vision protocol, then protocol for customs glasses, but I didn't get the Elsa protocol, most likely I had no clue there is Elsa in existence and that they are the same as eDimensional. If you would just tell me try to search for Elsa IR protocol then I could google it by myself and I would be very thankful. I'm not lazy to google, read, search etc... but sometime you just need push to the right way and then when I see I get guided to absolutely wrong way then I'm not pleased. It's like helping blind man crossing street, of course he is thankful for you kindness and you attention, but when you take him away from to street somewhere else then it's much worse than telling him that he should cross the street alone.
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cybereality
3D Angel Eyes (Moderator)
Joined: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:18 pm Posts: 10038
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Sometimes what you are looking for isn't what you really want, and what you think you want isn't what you actually need.
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