That's why I ask people who own at least one solution to compare their results to the pics. I've heard, that the tinting of the IZ3D can be reduced, but the Zalman has only half resolution, which can't be changed!

Additionally I think it might be an old (17") iC3D (IZ3d)...

I'm not shure, wich image is better... I think a screen with checkerboard pattern would be best... and a decent resolution.

Common guys comment on the pics! Does the zalman realy ghost that much?

It's way smarter to have a checkerboard pattern in the polarizing layer rather than lines. Then the eyes wont see the lines and the image get's way better. Even though you can't escape the fact that the real resolution is cut in half.

cheers

in case you are interested in this information:

i contacted iz3d, and they said that they support various shimpent options which are also cheaper and arrive in 10/15 days instead of 2. i think 2 weeks are worth the monitor.. the choice is up to you..

cu

Wow hugo.. firefox completely destroys those pictures... anyway thanks for posting those... I still really dislike the tinting on the iz3d but the zalman interlacing is worse than I thought.
Also thanks sharky for asking iz3d about longer shipping because Im reallly releived it wont cost so much...

I will definately test the zalman monitor in person before I consider buy it now, just to check how distracting those interlacing lines really are... otherwise I may end up going Iz3d

Im guessing theres not any colour correction options in the Iz3d drivers already for the individual screens or people would be using them.. would such a feature be able to balance out the tinting?.. and the ghosting differences between those latest pictures is almost negligible... so sharky or anyone else with the Iz3d.. when you say crosstalk is a problem do you actually find it distracting you from the 3d at all?

Thanks again guys for all your help

What resolutions can be accessed with the Zalman Monitor to play S-3D? 1680x.....

Don't forget iZ3D Drivers are more intune with alot of videocards and other hardware...plus future improvements with the new 3D glasses (less ghosting) the coming release with the 1.08 Drivers; ummm I think I might go CrossfireX in Direct X10 (later on 08).


30/40 Matchpoint iZ3D!

Usually it's the same resolution. But interlace halfs the resolution.
So 1680X1050 gets 1680x525... thats realy WIDE screen *g*
however I'm running an old CRT, which has about 1152x864 right now. I think the resolutions could be nearly the same...

I hope you can find one of the monitors in a store - afaik they don't have such devices in stores in Europe

I have an iZ3D 22" monitor. I probably used it for a total of 3 hours about 2 months ago, most of the time adjusting this and that. The ghosting issue may be acceptable for some, but it is not for me. I eagerly await the release of the new glasses. Also, being that I have an ATI card, iZ3D is my only choice for this type of tech.

Half resolution or not, it's the experience that really counts. Look at the Wii blowing away the xbox 360 and ps 3 in sales even though it pales in comparison technically. It's a little cheaper than an xbox 360 and it's fun to play. I don't have one but I've heard and read this from many.

What I've read about the Zalman is there is no ghosting or ghosting that is hardly visible. The other benefit is that it takes one video input and not two, meaning that performance is not hindered as much. Both giving the user a better overall experience in my opinion. On a still picture of the monitor the lines are visible but through normal use I have read they are not visible. The only significant negative in my opinion is you are currently locked into nVidia with a Zalman.

This is my current opinion and hopefully it changes to the iZ3D side with the release of the better glasses. I really want it to since I have one!

I also have a 22" iz3d monitor (xp+e6850+8800gtx): and living in europe means 1500usd (cost+freight+taxes)

-the drivers are great, plenty of recent games are working well, you don't have to waste your time tweaking. Most usual issues have been adressed by the devs.: crosshairs, displaying text in games (WoW), and some games are just a new era for personal computing (gtr2/gtlegends/race07/TDU with iz3d+trackir+g25 are just...real...). I play on it at: UT3, WoW, MoHA, cod2, cod4(punkbuster is a pain in the ass in multiplayer for this one...), Bioshock, Flatout2, fear, Oblivion,

-the ghosting is sometimes anoying, in some games, which is a pity, but it is getting better with every update of the drivers... evem if I think that it will allways be the drawback of this monitor... so it's sometimes very very frustrating to feel almost the perfection, and see some ghosts that are bringing you back "out" of the game...

Anyway, I promise that, at 599usd, if you need a new monitor and you are a gamer, you have to buy an iz3d... there is no other reliable (and with a real support) solution for s3d gaming so far. At this kind of price, the ghosting is the minor (and only) issue of this device (and strangely barely visible in CoD4...). Nvidia offered almost no support for s3d for too long (I have a 8800...) to remain reliable in my eyes... so I won't buy a device which will rely on their mood...

(PS: I have had a cybermaxx helmet... there was no ghosting at all... but no game will run on it nowadays...)

I really enjoy my iZ3D monitor. Going from shutters to this monitor is like night and day. The picture quality is so much better, even with the ghosting. When I fired up Stalker, Assassin's Creed, COD2 and Oblivion I knew I made the right decision. I didn't spend a lot of time tweaking. Once I figured out some settings and got a lil help from Neil I finally found the sweet spot and use that as a starting base for all my games now.

The iZ3D team support is quite superb, they are always around answering questions. I don't see Nvidia on this forum or even their own forums helping people with their drivers or monitors. Seeing Nvidia ignore their customers just didn't sit well with me, even though I own several of their video cards.

I find it very difficult to not play in S3D With the price drop I can't see why anyone who really enjoys S3D wouldn't give it a shot.

Edit: BTW making a decision to buy this monitor was not easy. I tossed it around for a good six months before I took the plunge. What slowed the process was not being able to actually see the monitor in action. I think iZ3D should allow certain electronics retailers to demo the monitor for the public.

So does no one have the Zalman or what? I'm looking to get one of these and I'm rather curious which is better (leaning toward Zalman).

I'll probably get the Zalman so I can try the new Nvidia drivers, cause I just got a new rig with Vista 32-bit.

Maybe you can just order both and return one of them before 30 days!

Does the nvidia driver support post processing yet? If not then the choice is easy given there track record. Iz3d.

I haven't tried the new nvidia drivers yet, but the Vuzix stereo driver (for the VR920) does work with post-processing. Its pretty hard to believe that a company like nvidia (that made the driver) can't get it to work when some random company like Vuzix managed to do it (albeit only around 30-40 games are supported ATM).

Hi,

(sorry for posting in an old thread)

I bought a Zalman Trimon 22'' Display and I've got very different feelings about it. The 3d effect is great but the lines from the intelacing method annoy me a lot. As far as I understood other posts the IZ3D doesn't have this problems. So I could have nearly the same great 3d effect and picture quality without this annoying lines? The Zalman is imho a great 2D Monitor, how about the IZ3D?

Thanks for answers

iZ3d sucks... I have it and it has A LOOOOOOT of ghosting. I'ts been a waste of money... I don't recommend it to anybody.

it all depends on the settings. if you set it to low separation+high convergence the ghosting will be reduced.

As it does the stereo.

The iz3d does ghosts a bit and compared to some other solutions it ghosts pretty much. However the ghosting is of a different kind than standard "high contrasts"-ghosting and gives more ghosting in general with the skybox and brighter areas. Not really a rule either though. Have you tried tilting the monitor slightly backwards since this seems to be the most efficient way to reduce ghosting for me. Having brightness at 40% also works good and since the iz3d is pretty bright it's actually as bright as a standard lcd on this level.

I think IZ3D is still a good budget monitor consider how it's half the price of a 21.5" Zalman ($250 vs $450). Zalman's good but is it worth the extra $200 for it?