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Two Eyed Hopeful

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Is IZ3d side by side not crosseyed? I thought it was...I'll have to try other source that I know...


Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:38 pm
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You can swap eyeviews in the iz3d driver. So it works both crosseyed as well as parallell viewing. You can check the control panel but i think ctrl+f8 is default to swap.

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Likay wrote:
You can swap eyeviews in the iz3d driver. So it works both crosseyed as well as parallell viewing. You can check the control panel but i think ctrl+f8 is default to swap.


It does but for me it only works properly in crosseyed. If i try the parallel setting the imgage is no longer letterboxed and is stretched full screen vertical.

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Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:28 pm
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Drew wrote:
I actually just got this one yesterday...
http://www.berezin.com/3d/3d_scope.htm

Mini review:
- the image quality is better than I expected, super crisp...
- the separation knob is jumpy, not smooth
- the inside is shiny plastic , which picks up allot of reflections (might open it someday and line it with matte black paper)
- the view size is pretty good, 4:3 from side by side widescreen video source
- works on my laptop and 52" plasma :)
- my lens in a cap videos look great
- PC gaming looks good (Triviz side by side)
- want to add a strap to make it wearable, it has two small bars for this (dork factor wearing this on my head = extreme)
- cheap plastic housing, be careful

overall , better than I expected..the reflections inside are pretty bad though...the 3D, really nice and crisp.
Compatibility is great...any size sources


I wanted to try these myself. Can you tell me some things?

What is the largest field of vision you can achieve? If you were to use 2 monitors, how big could they be and how close could you sit?

Would it be possible to mount 2 3.5" lcd's to the front of this to make an HMD? How close could the screns be and see the whole screen? How close could a pair of 7" lcds be in the same setup?

What would be a comparable screen size at what distance viewing with any of these options size wise like comparing to a vr90 hmd?

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Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:33 pm
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sorry, I don't have answers for ya...but they sound like great things to try!


Sat Aug 14, 2010 11:04 pm
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Drew wrote:
sorry, I don't have answers for ya...but they sound like great things to try!


Ok to put it another way, what size monitor have you been using and how close is your head using the split screen method?

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Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:11 am
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17" laptop monitor at about a foot and a half


Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:40 pm
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Hello all

I have both of the nvp3d-glasses. the mirror-stereoscope(its from sonice, berezin has it too)
and the cheap-wearable prism-glasses, foldable. its a nvp3d-design.
The latter has two mistakes which should be improved. I told them.
1. the asians seem to have little noses. the nose-gap should be enlarged by 5mm. what i did.
silly reflexions which could have been avoided if the prototype had been improved from the beginning. nvp3d-the designer- is a swiss company who does also quality-control the 3dinlife-3dmediaplayer.
I made some improvements by using black tape, also covering the sides of the prisms. but some covers must be done during production. you will understand when you see them.

Main differences:
Mirror-stereoscope(sonice) on pc-screen: perfect
easy centering of the image, one does almost only see the center(main)-image
With prism-glasses you will see all three images. centering is not a problem but easier with the mirrors. the friction is perfect since otherwise the mirrors would not stay in place.
Maybe i cannot compare perfectly enough since i have a sharpness gap. between 30 and 70cm. in other words i cannot view anything there.
i also added rubber-string to the prism-glasses to wear over my glasses.
for using to view dual-cams(stereodatamaker) i must go very near, my own glasses must be removed. since then the string is too long i made a second knob and added a slit just near the mounting hole on one side to slip in the string. otherwise the glasses could slip from my head of my glasses are removed.
nvp3d told the prism-glasses have a max. limit of 1m viewing distance.

I could view stereocards of 120mm lenght with both viewers.
On the bottom of the mirror-stereoscope/sonice there is a precut hole to drill a thread. First i thought a thread was lready there... and added a table-tripod ny force, thought they made the thread too small.
Found connectors to add the stereoscope to the back of my zbarred-canon a590is. fantastic if the cams are mounted on a tripod. see tripod-adapter only in photo-section of stereodatamaker-yahooo-group under europanorama(2nd page)
I also added a camera-strap wrapped around my head. I have an image of the 3dman(me) wearing these big "goggles. One day it will find its way the the am photo-section.

The gap to slip-in such a thin strap is really small. a bit too small. it seems they had no other choice. i must find a better solution for easier and quicker adjusting this strap over my head.
the big 38 chf versus 12 chf(prism glasses) sonice mirror-stereoscope can be used for very large prints, images.
The reflexions at the inner surfaces could really be improved by adding velvet.
I like the big-stereoscope better e.g. for youtube3d-viewing or whatever gallery.
Both glasses are a MUST HAVE. I can wear them both over my own glasses. The cheaper prism-glasses can be adjusted too. Its a copyrighted nvp3d-design.

Stereodatamaker:
I have also a vertical rig-small stereobase 55mm. If the mirror-stereoscope is used to view the screens, the images will be too bright, since the screen my my a590is cannot be darkened. viewing is annoying. i have a similar problem already comparing both horizontal screens, left one upside-down on zbar. (one screen will always be brighter). its not a big problem.
Maybe its due to polarization.

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Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:53 am
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I've found a new stereoscope with mirrors, the SCV3188 3D Stereoscope Viewer from 3DInlife :
http://www.3dinlife.com/en/product5.html

It looks quite good IMO, more stylish than the 3D Scope and maybe easier to make it wearable. It can be bought here for $43 :
http://www.3dvirtualstore.com/index.php ... store.html


Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:50 pm
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The 3d-Inlife Stereoscope is announced but will not yet be delivered i was told.
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The same for the outboard 3d TV lens.
There are images in this Forum. But you will not find it in the search because he has posted a picture of the product. Will post it later.

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Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:52 pm
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Sorry to bump this thread but since I started it I thought i'd just follow up.

I finally went with the NVP3D Stereoscope and i'm pleased with it. It's a super cheap way to view 3D and the 3D effect is great. Since you can adjust the viewing angle you can increase or decrease the depth as much as you want which is good if your eyes feel strange after a while. Adjustable also means any size screen from laptop screen to HDTV. (However I should point out, its not usable on small screens like iphone because the stereoscope windows are too far apart, you have to keep the iphone screen at quite a distance to see the image, and although its 3D, at such a distance the image is too small IMO).
All screens also look smaller when viewied through the scope.
Most annoying aspect are the reflections mentioned before.

All in all an easy, cheap, and fairly effective way to get 3D. I would recommend it to anyone wanting 3D without buying new (expensive) equipment.


Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:12 am
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do not order at berezin.com i got ripped off never received the package and no answer from seller. :x


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mrbryce wrote:
do not order at berezin.com i got ripped off never received the package and no answer from seller. :x

I was afraid of some thing like that. I'm going to wait for some thing to show up on ebay.

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