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 Acer HN274H 27” 3D Monitor Review (Part I) 
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Fredz wrote:
He blamed it on the 3D Vision technology and not on the monitor, which is quite funny when everyone here knows that there is no ghosting with 3D Vision on a DLP projector.

This isn't so far fetched actually. It recently came out that the severe "top of screen ghosting" which people have been complaining about for 2 years, actually is not caused by the LCD panel. It was a problem with the Windows USB Hub controller mis-allocating bandwidth for the Nvidia USB emitter. People found hacks where you could quickly plug and unplug a USB web-cam and that would briefly eliminate the ghosting. Other users found using a USB 3.0 port and disabling the 2.0 hub would also solve the problem (or something like that). That is also probably the reason this Acer monitor doesn't suffer from the issue (very much) because it doesn't use USB to sync.

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Do you know the way how to trigger the built-in emitter? To work this amd? can you post it?

To use this with AMD all you need is a compatible card (series 5000 or above). I discuss this in Part II, which should be posted soon.

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DigitalVersus= Pay me or I'll write bad sh!t about your product.
Consumers Report= confirmed we will write bad sh!t sbout your product if you don't pay us.

It happens all the time.

I don't think this is the case. Different sites or reviewers are just going to have different criteria on which to rate a product. Those DigitalVersus guys are technicians, not gamers. They were looking at the monitor from the standpoint of how accurate the colors/contrast were to some ideal (which I bet 99.9% of products don't meet). If you color-correct photos in Photoshop for a living, this may be a concern. If all you want to do is play some online shooters after you get home for work, this probably doesn't make one difference. I was reviewing the monitor from the standpoint of "is it fun?", "does it provide an enjoyable experience?". And it does. General web-browsing is fine. Heck, I'm on this site most of the time and there are only like 3 colors (gray, white and blue). What does it matter to me if the monitor displays 16 million colors or "only" 15 million colors? Really, is that what makes a game fun? Whether the green on the grass in World of Warcraft is exactly the same color as the grass on your lawn. I would even argue, that an artificial color accuracy could even be surreal and provide even more enjoyment then the colors that are supposedly "accurate". I mean, do you think these game developers code games on professional studio monitors (like they do in hollywood)? Probably not. They might even be testing on 120Hz 3D monitors, as they have with some games like Batman:AA. In which case, playing the game on an "inaccurate" display like this Acer is ACTUALLY THE WAY IT WAS MEANT TO BE SEEN!!!

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Hello,
first of all it was a pleasure to read your review.
I can't wait to read the second part because i'm an owner of the 24 inch model and i have some little problems.
I use an AMD card with the monitor (HD6970) and i can play in 3D with tridef drivers without problem on the HS244HQ in full screen but when i try to read a movie with Powerdvd or Total media theatre (both the last release) i always get a smaller video wich not fit the screen.(hopefully it's small but in 3D ^^)
Please these are my first steps in the 3D family help me.
All my drivers are up to date
I'm trully sorry for my English level

Hope you 'll tell me how to use my entire screen (i 'hace tried different resolution or refresh rates with no result,i can not use the scalling from the monitor menu because it's allways grey,when i try to return to windows to go to catalyst for scalling options the movie stop go back in 2D side by side and i return on my desktop in fullscreen)
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Mon May 23, 2011 8:49 pm
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Ah yes, there is an issue with the overscan on AMD cards. I actually should have mentioned that in the review, I forgot. You have to go to the Catalyst options in: TV, Overscan settings, and set it to 0% (all the way to the right).

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Hello and tanks for the quick answer.
I' ve put the scalling to 0% in order to have fullscreen when the pc show my desktop.
When i start a game no problem the game run in fullscreen too.
But when i choose a movie either with powerdvd 11 or total theatre 5 the movie plays in 3d only on a small part of my screen (nearly 70% of it) and when i try to go back to catalyst the movie go back in 2D.
I'm sure it's a little probleme easy to resolve but i must have miss something.
Please help^^


Tue May 24, 2011 8:26 am
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The second part is up!

http://www.mtbs3d.com/index.php?option= ... &Itemid=77

Regards,
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I still can't play movies in fullscreen mode (it's in fullscreen but the image cover not the entire display)
can you give me your catalyst/powerdvd/totaltheatre or stereoscopic player tweaks please?
I 'm pleased with the gaming experience i just need to enjoy fullscreen movies
Please help a poor girl


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Chiefwinston wrote:
DigitalVersus= Pay me or I'll write bad sh!t about your product.
Consumers Report= confirmed we will write bad sh!t sbout your product if you don't pay us.
Chiefwinston=badmouth any site that has not the same point of view than him... ;)


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Actually Fredz, 3D can be a bit fussy in terms of getting good results. It doesn't suprise me that these guys at DigitalVersus don't know how to go about it.

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They started reviewing 3D displays and games 3 years ago (with the Zalman ZM-M220W in May 2008), by now they have tested more than 50 3D TVs and monitors. They also have reviewed a lot of 3D games using the 3D Vision kit, starting with the first 120Hz LCD 3D monitor on the market (Samsung 2233rz in january 2009) and games like Race Driver GRID, Left 4 Dead or Far Cry 2. They were also the first to consistently use the DDD image test to compare ghosting between the different 3D displays. So yes, I think they know perfectly what they are talking about.


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Fredz wrote:
So yes, I think they know perfectly what they are talking about.

I'm sure they know what they are talking about. But it is only one perspective. When I am looking to buy a product, I will usually want to read multiple reviews, from multiple sources. Sometimes you hear good things, sometimes you hear bad. That's how you make an informed decision. By weighing the pros and cons, and how that matches your specific needs. You can focus on this one bad review of a product, or you can focus on one good review. Or you could do the smart thing and read all the reviews and make up your own mind. To make this a little easier, I have included full quality, 8MP 3D photos I have taken of the Acer monitor with the 2nd part of the review. These have not been resized or otherwise modified from what came out of the camera. You can save this as a JPS file and view it on your own 3D solution or, better yet, view cross-eye to get the best quality. Granted, the images came out a little dark and the ghosting experience is slightly different than real-life, but they were as close as I could get them with the equipment I have. Hopefully that will allow people to make up their own mind for themselves.

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Anyone can help me with my issues of not being able to have fullscreen with movies?
Pleeeeease


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Make sure you have the overscan settings set correct (you may have to do this for both 1080P and 720P):
http://www.aoclarkejr.com/ati-catalyst- ... tions.html

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You can try checking the box on the bottom about "use the scaling values instead...".

Think about getting a new HDMI cable (high-speed HDMI 1.4) and/or using a different port on the video card. You can try using a DVI to HDMI adapter.

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I thoroughly enjoyed this review, very well done. Thanks cyber !!


Thu May 26, 2011 8:50 am
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Fredz,
I was trying to PM you but I am not familiar with forums.
Could you please help me?
Having Ubuntu and Nvidia video card + HDMI 1.4 display (a DLP 3D projector enabled via VIP Gamer):
is there a way to see 3D from Linux?

Thanks and kind regards


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You can PM people with the button on the bottom left side of each post. Its to the right of the date.

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Don't PM, just post a forum topic so anyone can answer and other people can benefit from the answers. And don't hijack threads like this when there is no relationship to your question, that makes it harder to find valuable information in the forum.


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Registered mainly to say I just ordered this thanks to your review - despite all the trashing I am mighty excited and am looking foward to when it arrives - I have an 'old' Sammy 2233RZ which I reckon is great - time though to get a bigger 1 :o :o :o :o . ...and, I will now have 2 pair of Nvision glasses, so my wife can get a look @my crazy 3D gaming :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Thanks again Fredz :D :D :D


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sorry, thanks to 'cybereality' for the review and helping me decide to stick with NV..
cheers :P :P :P :P


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No problem man. I hope that works out for you.

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