Probably bad news... no more cheap hydras?

Post by **cybereality** » Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:07 pm

I hope that banner means they are making a human gyroscope, ala LawnmowerMan

Post by **geekmaster** » Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:17 pm

cybereality wrote:I hope that banner means they are making a human gyroscope, ala LawnmowerMan

Dude! What are you doing hanging out here when there is work to be done at that "other" forum? Somebody needs to spank those spammers and their ELEVEN "fake passport" threads! Some of those threads have languished in the lap of luxury over their for more than half a day (13 hours)...

Post by **zalo** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:10 pm

Don't forget that the announcement is tomorrow. At this point I'm 50/50 on it being a new hydra or a new mousepad.

Props to Dan_Sixense for being simultaneously vague and insightful!

On one hand, why would be warn us that an improved hydra will be more expensive?
On the other hand, why is a guy from Sixense (exclusively Hydra) even here? And why hasn't he commented on the hydra shortage?

Questions, questions...

Post by **GeraldT** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:28 pm

what banner?

Post by **geekmaster** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:43 pm

GeraldT wrote:what banner?

This banner:

REV

LUTION

http://www.razerzone.com/razer-hyped-up

Post by **Omarzuqo** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:18 pm

geekmaster wrote:This banner:

REVLUTION

Based on that banner my best guess is that they're launching a movie studio

Post by **colocolo** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:22 pm

i answered Razer Gloves.

What might be a revolution for ordinary gaming?...

Post by **Bleppe** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:55 pm

Seems like they pulled every Hydra from all of Sweden. They can't be found anywhere. So I'm guessing they'll release Hydra v2 or some other kind of motioncontroller.

Post by **GeraldT** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:11 am

geekmaster wrote:
GeraldT wrote:what banner?
This banner:

REVLUTION

http://www.razerzone.com/razer-hyped-up

ahhh ... wow, such a thing would be cool, I can totally see a superman multiplayer game for arcades with those ... even though it might be best placed at some sport place like climbing walls (not anywhere near drunk people ^^).

Post by **Zoide** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:46 am

So, it's finally June 25th. Is the contest over? What was the correct answer?

Post by **Bleppe** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:48 am

I've been spamming the refreshbutton but the contest is still up and no word on what it will be.

Post by **colocolo** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:03 am

Min-Liang Tan ‏@minliangtan 9 am, Bejing
Smoggy morning in Beijing. Exciting announcement coming up shortly for Chinese gamers!

Retweetet von Razer

Post by **iarehuuman** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:25 am

On facebook everyone is saying it will be a 7.1 headset based on an analysis of the notches of this image https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1 ... 5&refid=17
Or the release of the Razer Blade due to it being previously known as a "revolution".
Still maintaing hope and sitting through the painful anticipation.

Post by **Tacklebait** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:30 am

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2042833/ ... eater.html

This says they released software that simulates 7.1 surround sound on stereo headphones... and its free. Is this the announcement?? bah.. maybe i'll buy my hydra now

Post by **Bleppe** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:35 am

Tacklebait wrote:http://www.pcworld.com/article/2042833/ ... eater.html

This says they released software that simulates 7.1 surround sound on stereo headphones... and its free. Is this the announcement?? bah.. maybe i'll buy my hydra now

Yupp... seems like it... http://www.razerzone.com/

Post by **colocolo** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:36 am

iarehuuman wrote:On facebook everyone is saying it will be a 7.1 headset based on an analysis of the notches of this image https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1 ... 5&refid=17
Or the release of the Razer Blade due to it being previously known as a "revolution".
Still maintaing hope and sitting through the painful anticipation.

hmmm.....i hope its not only a meaningless advertisement slogan.

Post by **colocolo** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:43 am

looks like they will release their new 7.1 sound engine. And it will be free until the end of the year.
afterwards it will cost 15 €.
http://www.pressebox.de/inaktiv/razer-e ... xid/606774
The article describes that sound location will be significantly improved.
Not bad for VR at least.

Post by **iarehuuman** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:44 am

Damn. Just software. Hell of a revolution.
https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1 ... 8181772576

Post by **Zoide** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:56 am

They still have to update the Hydra. Otherwise why would it be nearly discontinued just when the VR revolution is starting?

Post by **GeraldT** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:02 am

what a joke, not even for free - tried the sample, not exactly convincing.

and here I was hoping for something useful

Post by **Bleppe** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:05 am

I ordered the Hydra from Amazon UK now... was really hoping for a new Hydra version but oh well...

Post by **NightlHlawk** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:24 am

Bah. What a letdown.

Post by **Ziggurat** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:26 am

Well that sucked, a really crappy virtual surround.... I did not get any surround feeling.
The audio intended for back, front, and above was not displaced at all. (planes and cars with doppler effect on the sound)
It was a really crappy demonstration, and I do not know why they claim that calibrating things should make a huge difference.

I mean, put some stereo ear buds in your ear and listen to this virtual surround:
(headphones or earbuds required)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lo9u61lY4U
It can be incorporated into a 3D game engine, and puts that razor thing to shame.

Post by **RoTaToR** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:35 am

12-15 years ago i played a game called "Counterstrike" - a Half Life Mod. I played with stereo-Headphones, because you could hear from which direction the enemy make noise! It was a elementary advantage - so normal "weekend players" called me cheater... 0_o

And now you tell me that 12 years later they invent souround sound? Sorry, i dont get it... ^^

Post by **MrGreen** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:39 am

Epic Hype Fail.

Talk about a cold shower.

I'll still give it a shot out of curiosity but man, this is disappointing.

Post by **MrGreen** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:05 pm

The contest page is still up so maybe there's hope?

Post by **Lilwolf** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:11 pm

LMAO!

MrGreen wrote:The contest page is still up so maybe there's hope?

Post by **iarehuuman** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:21 pm

MrGreen wrote:The contest page is still up so maybe there's hope?

Doubt it.

Gain the unfair advantage by personalizing your surround sound experience with the new revolutionary Razer Surround: j.mp/16tDXUh

Post by **MrGreen** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:24 pm

iarehuuman wrote:
Gain the unfair advantage by personalizing your surround sound experience with the new revolutionary Razer Surround: j.mp/16tDXUh

I guess that kills whatever little hope I had left. Thanks, I guess.

Post by **ElectroPulse** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:37 pm

MrGreen wrote:The contest page is still up so maybe there's hope?

Ahahahaha.... Did you submit it? (please tell me you did!)

Anyway, I got this email earlier today, and thought back to when I heard about some sort of announcement. I thought "Nah, this couldn't be it... Way too much hype for some stupid surround sound program." Proved me wrong, Razer!

Post by **Bleppe** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:41 pm

I emailed one of the largest resellers of games and hardware in Sweden today and asked them why they didn't Sell the Hydra anymore. The answer I got was that they had sold way less than expected so they desided to stop selling it and they didn't have any plans to start selling it again. I think they might want to reconsider that decision once the Rift becomes more widespread. What worries me though is that it seems like theyre out of stock in the razerstore aswell. I hope they don't go out of production.

Post by **MrGreen** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:42 pm

ElectroPulse wrote:Ahahahaha.... Did you submit it? (please tell me you did!)

You bet I did!

Post by **zalo** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:46 pm

Sure as hell explains why not a single person guessed it.

Post by **colocolo** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:02 pm

what a fail from Dan_Sixsense to interfere in this thread.

Post by **Zoide** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:04 pm

Just because they released surround sound software today it doesn't mean they're not working on the next version of the Hydra...

Post by **Ziggurat** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:21 pm

I called the largest online electronics reseller in Norway, and the guy said that they are unable to purchase anymore.

Reddit · Post by **nateight** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:45 pm

Zoide wrote:They still have to update the Hydra. Otherwise why would it be nearly discontinued just when the VR revolution is starting?

So the big reveal is a 7.1 headset driver? Sounds about right, actually. The MTBS echo chamber effect claims yet another harvest of misplaced hopes and dreams, film at eleven.

Razer (though perhaps not Sixense) are clearly in the same camp with pretty much every other company that isn't Valve: "VR is totally cool, we love it, we even made that one VR thing [Hydra] that no one bought, and we're super excited to see what everyone else does with VR because we're basically done with it ourselves." Change the specific "VR thing" to the HMZ-T1 or IllumiRoom or the Virtual Boy or whatever fits, and pretty much every single hardware manufacturer has implied that identical sentiment, we are in full-on wait-and-see mode. Such a position would be less defensible if VR really were a novel concept, but according to the ledgers all the big time corps keep, VR was tried and VR failed. Suddenly selling a few thousand Hydras barely registers on Razer's radar screens - "That's great, Oculus, have fun building those VR headset things, and if you ever find a market for a Hydra 2.0 that's several million pocketbooks deep, we'll consider building it". Even if this is the beginning of the VR revolution we all hope to see, everything about this stage of it still looks like small potatoes to an established company. Razer deserves accolades just for bringing something as wacky/awesome as the Hydra to market in the first place, but don't mistake that entrepreneurial adventurousness for real vision. I expect the only thing Razer sees here is a minor fad, and one they already probably lost a bunch of money pandering to once before.

Post by **Bleppe** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:57 pm

Ziggurat wrote:I called the largest online electronics reseller in Norway, and the guy said that they are unable to purchase anymore.

Check Amazon UK. I ordered mine from there today. I think there are a couple more in stock.
They had both with and without the portal 2 bundle.

Post by **MrGreen** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:55 pm

nateight wrote:Razer deserves accolades just for bringing something as wacky/awesome as the Hydra to market in the first place, but don't mistake that entrepreneurial adventurousness for real vision.

I think you're giving them a little too much credit here. They tried to cash in on the motion control craze that started with the Wii on a platform that didn't need it. And to make sure the 12 people that actually cared didn't buy one, they put wires on it. The only reason the Hydra makes sense today is the Oculus Rift.

Which, like you said, also explains why they didn't announce a new one today...

Post by **2EyeGuy** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:14 pm

My Hyrda broke it's right trigger in the first month, and I haven't been able to get it replaced because there weren't any more in the shop I got it from.

Everyone has the same problem.
Terrible build quality and support, Razer.