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Viewsonic PJD6531w, reviews?
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mAchiNE
Binocular Vision CONFIRMED!
Joined: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:58 pm Posts: 269
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@Cyber Oh i didn't realize that was a driver fix, although after I posted I did suspect that might be the case, its good that Nvidia did that although it would be nice if they would add some fullscreen controls to their 3D video player.
@WiredEarp If the sony HMD actually comes out I will probably get that too for FPS/VR(or the cinemizer OLED if its just as good), the projector will still be useful for watching 3D movies as I rarely watch movies by myself, also I think based on the FOV of those HMDs you will get a much wider FOV if you get the projector and sit fairly close to the 120" screen, especially if you curve it. I've currently got an 80" projector screen right in front of a racing sim setup and the FOV is about 3 times bigger than a VR920 so you can imagine what a 120" screen will be like (let alone 3D vision surround!), so for racing and flight sims the projector is probably a better choice but for First Person games the immersion of a HMD even with smaller FOV (once you add headtracking to it) should be better especially since you can move around with it on. As for bulbs you can get replacement bulbs for under $300 witch is fairly cheap and they last ages anyway.
_________________ Current System: 3x 23" Passive 3D Monitors in 3D Vision Surround, Novint Falcon, 3rd Space Gaming Vest, ButtKicker, Razer Hydra, Logitech G25. Previous 3D Systems: Viewsonic PJD6531w 3D DLP Projector, Vuzix VR920, 24" Alienware and 22" Samsung 3D Vision Monitors, eDimensional 3D Glasses with 19" CRT Monitor
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| Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:45 pm |
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WiredEarp
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Thanks CyberReality, didn't know about that update.
@Machine, good point re the FOV. I might get my Z800 and do some tests with that on FSX in stereo (old school Nvidia 7900 + drivers on my 2nd PC) to see what the immersion factor with that is like (since its close to the specs on the Sony HMD).
MOST of what I need the high FOV and 3D for is flight sims, so the higher FOV screen may be worthwhile. I basically just need something better than my Alienware 3D monitor for Black Shark (I see by your sig you have a similar setup).
The only problem I can see with watching 3D movies (I have a few) on that projector, is that you will need a pair of glasses for each person. If you are using 3D Vision, this is pretty expensive. I have heard some references to using eDimensional glasses with 3D Vision, so if thats possible that might be the best path - you can get eDimensional glasses pretty cheap (and they work fine on my old CRT).
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| Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:59 pm |
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mAchiNE
Binocular Vision CONFIRMED!
Joined: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:58 pm Posts: 269
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I picked up 3 pairs of 3D vision Glasses off ebay a while ago for $80NZD each, if you hunt around you can get some good deals
_________________ Current System: 3x 23" Passive 3D Monitors in 3D Vision Surround, Novint Falcon, 3rd Space Gaming Vest, ButtKicker, Razer Hydra, Logitech G25. Previous 3D Systems: Viewsonic PJD6531w 3D DLP Projector, Vuzix VR920, 24" Alienware and 22" Samsung 3D Vision Monitors, eDimensional 3D Glasses with 19" CRT Monitor
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| Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:32 am |
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cybereality
3D Angel Eyes (Moderator)
Joined: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:18 pm Posts: 10026
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mAchiNE wrote: I picked up 3 pairs of 3D vision Glasses off ebay a while ago for $80NZD each, if you hunt around you can get some good deals Yeah, I got an extra pair for $62 USD. You can find deals if you look.
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| Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:20 pm |
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WiredEarp
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Thats pretty good, about $40NZ each. If I get a projector, I'll probably do this. I already have 2 sets of eDimensionals tho, so if theres an easy hack anyone knows of to get these hooked up, let me know  I do really like the Nvidia glasses MUCH more however. More wraparound, comfier with glasses on underneath, and they are rechargable. I've also never had any problems with ghosting etc, at least not ones due to the hardware (wierd driver issues HAVE caused me some pain).
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| Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:24 pm |
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fReAq
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Joined: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:44 am Posts: 64 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Wired ED glasses work normally just using the ED Activator to turn them on 
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| Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:09 pm |
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mAchiNE
Binocular Vision CONFIRMED!
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After having the PJD6531w for a few months now it has now become my permanent monitor on my gaming PC! You really cant beat large screen 3D!  After using this, a 24" 3D monitor now seems like a waste of time. I did notice the lower resoloution (720p vs 1080p) in BF3 Beta (becacuse of the extremely high level of detail in that game) but the beta only had 4xAA so I think it will be fine on the final release with AA cranked way up, Dirt3 COD and 3D movies etc are fine resoloution wise IMO (and I sit about 1.5m away from an 80" screen). And on a side note I just had a thought the other day that if I want to do 3DVS on the cheap I can get 2 800x600 3D projectors and turn them on the're side giving me and extra 600 pixels width on each side at an angle to fill part of the periferal vision (effectively doubling the screen width and having it angled in at the edges) this gives a total resoloution of 2480x800 and has the added benifit of not needing such a powerful PC to run it (compared to using 3x 1080p screens), plus if the screen goes much wider than that it will be out side the 3d Vision glasses FOV when looking straight ahead anyway.
_________________ Current System: 3x 23" Passive 3D Monitors in 3D Vision Surround, Novint Falcon, 3rd Space Gaming Vest, ButtKicker, Razer Hydra, Logitech G25. Previous 3D Systems: Viewsonic PJD6531w 3D DLP Projector, Vuzix VR920, 24" Alienware and 22" Samsung 3D Vision Monitors, eDimensional 3D Glasses with 19" CRT Monitor
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| Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:43 pm |
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mAchiNE
Binocular Vision CONFIRMED!
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Okay so I just got a 150" Projector Screen!!! Now that I have a screen big enough to use the projector in 16:10 mode I started to play with settings to see if I could get it to run 1280x800 in 3D mode through HDMI (which by default it does not!) so I don't have to resort to using the VGA cable hack. When I looked into the settings the first thing I noticed in the Nvidia control panel is that in 1280x800 the only refresh rate available is 60Hz...... so seems like this is the reason for the annoying red warning when trying to run in 3D mode saying it is not a supported 3D setting! So I found a way to fix this problem in the Nvidia control panel by creating a Custom Resoloution Here's how to do it: - go into Nvidia Control Panel - click on the 'change resoloution' tab under 'Display' - click 'Customize' - click 'create custom reslolution' button at the bottom of tab -Settings for custom resoloution are: Horizontal Pixels: 1280, Vertical Lines: 800, Refresh Rate: 120, Color depth: 32, Scan Type: Progressive -before you Apply the settings press the 'Timing' button at the bottom of the tab, you wil see a bunch more settings conme up, change the Timing from 'Automatic' to 'DMT' -Click Test, the image should turn off then come back looking normal. -Apply the settings and you are done! I tested this in the Nvidia 3D test App and it worked!!! It also seems to work fine in games, no annoying red warning and 3D mode activates prefectly fine. Only problem is when using 3D Vision Video player  for some reason I get the red warning!  but in windowed mode dispite the annoying red warning the video is still playing in 3D mode fine! but when I fullscreen the 3D mode stops working! I am not sure why this is but at least with this custom resoloution you can play games in 1280x800 in 3D then switch back to 1280x720 for watching movies in 3D (most of which are 16:9 aspect ratio anyway so you are not losing any resoloution there). Annoying I know but at least we can play games in 3D at full resoloution over HDMI If anyone can figure out why the 3D vision video player is having this issue then please let me know! otherwise if I can fix it I'll post back here. Hope this Helps!
_________________ Current System: 3x 23" Passive 3D Monitors in 3D Vision Surround, Novint Falcon, 3rd Space Gaming Vest, ButtKicker, Razer Hydra, Logitech G25. Previous 3D Systems: Viewsonic PJD6531w 3D DLP Projector, Vuzix VR920, 24" Alienware and 22" Samsung 3D Vision Monitors, eDimensional 3D Glasses with 19" CRT Monitor
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| Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:58 am |
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tritosine5G
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Joined: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:35 am Posts: 893 Location: As far from Hold Display guys as possible!!! ^2
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mAchiNE wrote: After having the PJD6531w for a few months now it has now become my permanent monitor on my gaming PC! You really cant beat large screen 3D! I have this sentence in fewer words, it goes like VWFTW Video Walls For The Win !!! 
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| Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:38 am |
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a12103754
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Joined: Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:01 pm Posts: 2
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I just bought this projector along with the PDG-250 shutter glasses. Unfortunately I cant make it work. So, instead of using 3D Vision, I am using the DLP-LINK method between the projector and the glasses. But I dont get to see any 3D image.
I followed what @mAchiNE did, and now I am running it at 1280x800 @120Hz using a HDMI cable. (thanks!) I have talked to ViewSonic's online support, but they dont know how to fix it.
Does anyone use this set up (6531w with DLP-LINK method and a Quadro card)?
Thanks!
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| Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:23 pm |
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cybereality
3D Angel Eyes (Moderator)
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@a12103754: What software are you using? Have you tried the IZ3D driver in 120Hz mode?
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| Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:27 pm |
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a12103754
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Thanks for the replay =)
I tried using Stereoscopic Player as well as other players, but non of them showed any positive result.
I am a game programmer and I am using OpenGL for testing the four buffers method (that's why I am using the Quadro card). In the projected wall, it looks like two images overlapped, but the glasses cannot get in sync.
I am going to try the IZ3D driver and post the result the results here.
Thanks again!
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| Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:42 pm |
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hatharry
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after months and months of research ive finally figured out how to use hdmi at 1280*800*120 and remove the message saying "attempting to run stereoscopic 3d in non 3d mode" here are the steps: thanks to mAchiNE mAchiNE wrote: So I found a way to fix this problem in the Nvidia control panel by creating a Custom Resoloution Here's how to do it: - go into Nvidia Control Panel - click on the 'change resoloution' tab under 'Display' - click 'Customize' - click 'create custom reslolution' button at the bottom of tab -Settings for custom resoloution are: Horizontal Pixels: 1280, Vertical Lines: 800, Refresh Rate: 120, Color depth: 32, Scan Type: Progressive -before you Apply the settings press the 'Timing' button at the bottom of the tab, you wil see a bunch more settings conme up, change the Timing from 'Automatic' to 'DMT' -Click Test, the image should turn off then come back looking normal. -Apply the settings and you are done! now that your running at the resolution that looks right and can support 3d, when you go to test the 3d you'l see "attempting to run stereoscopic 3d in non 3d mode" this is how to remove that: you'll need PE Explorer http://www.heaventools.com/download-pe-explorer.htmonce downloaded and installed you'll need to open the file nvstres.dll Mine was located in "C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\3D Vision" Go to the button called Resource Viewer\Editor and click it, open the folder bitmap and find 201. open 201 there should be an open file button next to replacement source. download the attached 201.bmp and use it as the replacement source. go to file and save the file as nvstres1.dll. once saved rename the original nvstres.dll to nvstres.dll.old and rename nvstres1.dll to nvstres.dll disable and enable the 3d in the nvidia control panel ill attach the modified nvstres.dll for driver 285.62 Note: this will remove all of nvidia OSD last of all games like to look at the resolution in the driver for windows! not the custom resolution in the nvidia control panel so install the edid override inf attached Enjoy 
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| Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:58 am |
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cybereality
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@hatharry: Awesome work dude!
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| Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:04 pm |
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DooMed
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Hello! Guys, first of all I would like to thank you all for that research and work u done. I've recently bought new Viewsonic 6553w projector (it was still "3d vision compatible" on nvidia site), but found out that it's not recognizing as a compatible one.. Nothing to say, I was very disappointed! Made several calls to Viewsonic Europe, chatted with Nvidia support several times, but they could not figure anything out. A mate, who worked in Viewsonic, told me interesting thing: NVIDIA wants great money to list a display or a projector as a compatible one, that's why there were problems with 6531w and 6553w just disappeared from the list. I've used Nvidia video cards for past 10 years and it was the first time when I began to hate this corporation!!! So, I've tried everything I could: took out the pins from DVI-HDMI adapter, DVI-VGA adapter, made an attempt to fake the drivers, tried to fool 3d vision wizard (oh, I hate it SOOO MUCH), made several fake inf files, but still can't figure out how to make everything work.. Help pls!!! P.S. I will never spend a dollar on 3d vision compatible hardware, I promise. I work as a project manager, so now we tell every client not to use NVIDIA glasses and buy PALMEXX PX-203 instead, every 3d classroom or home movie theater we arrange is build from officially not 3d vision supported hardware and software and I'm proud to say that NVIDIA lost minimum 150000$ because of their greediness (02.12.2011-10.01.2012)! 
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| Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:58 am |
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cybereality
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I'm actually pretty upset that Nvidia claimed the Lenovo Y570 was 3D compatible (which is why I bought it) but it doesn't work. Really annoying.
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| Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:19 pm |
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hcforde
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Here in the U.S. the PJD6531w is still listed as a compatible Nvidia Vision unit. However, the older models need a firmware update to make them compatible but the newer ones apparently come that way. The PJD6531w has been discontinued and the PJD6553w is the heir(supposedly). AGAIN, no compatibility with Nvidia 3D vision at launch. As of now there is no current Viewsonic 720P projector compatible with Nvidia 3D vision. If this does not happen soon they will also lose my money.
It would seem that Nvidia would get better market share by giving the license, (or selling it cheaply) to the manufacturers and profiting on the sale of more video cards. I currently have Dual 2-GB AMD 5870's. It is time for me to upgrade, and I would like to get a couple of GTX670's. BUT!!!, why should I upgrade to Nvidia approved projectors when I do not have a wider selection of projectors to choose from. This licensing fee makes the user pay for the technology twice because the manufacturer passes it on to the enduser in the form of higher cost for the licensed unit and the they pay for it again when buying 3D video equipment from Nvidia.
I did not like the "OPEN STANDARD" AMD & Tridef was touting but there are more choices and while not perfect, neither is Nvidia 3D Vision. I like having a choice and including Nvidia is a choice but now they are limiting choices. The PC market is NOT the APPLE/MAC market where choices are controlled.
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| Wed May 16, 2012 11:26 am |
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cybereality
3D Angel Eyes (Moderator)
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Well that was one of the reasons I decided to go AMD on my latest rig and bought an HDMI 1.4a projector.
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| Wed May 16, 2012 6:03 pm |
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hcforde
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I just bought a PJD6553w but am wondering if I should have gotten the cheaper PJD5523w. The cheaper model has 120HZ PC timings at every resolution up to 1280*720/800. I also bought the VP3D1 video processor so I have HDMI1.3 and 1.4 capability. I have not had a chance to try it out yet because the package came UPS and the box was visibly damaged. The company I bought them from double packaged the video processor($200) but did not double package projector which was ($700) - WHAT WERE THEY THINKING???????.
About the AMD cards and resolutions, Is 3D fixed at 720P & 1080P or is it at any resolution?
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| Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:15 pm |
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cybereality
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If you are using HDMI 1.4a then you are limited to 720P or 1080P. If you use straight 120Hz mode (frame-sequential) then you may try other resolutions but there also may be sync issues.
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