HMD help, and introduction.

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Kyle Katarn ;)

Being salaried @ OVR and obliged, here i thought you won't even post any thing.
People even won't when they are not.

My many questions remained unanswered many times...that includes Neil too.
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http://www.quickfirenetworks.com/

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[–]martinlandau 1 point 7 minutes ago
YAY! Net neutrality issues my peeps in congress can keep fighting over! gonna milk this good for lotsa attention! Where is vent cerf? ;) Jaron lanier says you are not a gadget, but anti jaron palmer just said VR video content is "more special" than puny little plebes sucking down tor porn, who wins? Do the ivory tower types watching the latest dan lanman vr conference get more bandwidth than weev watching ginger lynn?

BANNED At reddit for speaking truth! Go journalism heroes! ;) Dilip, you are in india yes? What do you guys think about net neutrality, where oculus VR people gonna have the FAST highways, while you guys get the gutter dirt paved roads that you cant even walk on, much less take bicycle, car, or supertrain on? Class divide? Its gonna be a fun battle, lots of politicians gonna get involved here in the states, whats the latest political stuff in india? Only so much bandwidth to go around, not everyone can have 500 bazillions gigabit transmissions using recent nasa warp technology to give data packets FASTER THAN LIGHT TRAVEL! BWHAHA!

India slow lanes for poor will get DACTYL nightmare level VR, but zucker types will get 8K rez 100 bazillion polygon count vr yes?
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Wasn't Oculus (and the similar items that had been appearing for years now) an example of a solution that the big funding guys ignored. A guy with some cardboard, tape, and a pair of lenses managed to trump the efforts of the highly funded researchers.

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cadcoke5 wrote:Wasn't Oculus (and the similar items that had been appearing for years now) an example of a solution that the big funding guys ignored. A guy with some cardboard, tape, and a pair of lenses managed to trump the efforts of the highly funded researchers.
Isn't a guy with some cardboard, tape, and a pair of lenses ended up on side of GIANT GOLIATH (FB). A selfless hero met the destiny of being tool of Evil Corp (He told it was about choosing lesser evil,it happens in end every where_).

martinlandau wrote:whats the latest political stuff in india? Only so much bandwidth to go around, not everyone can have 500 bazillions gigabit transmissions using recent nasa warp technology to give data packets FASTER THAN LIGHT TRAVEL! BWHAHA!
Politics here is AS MUCH BULLSHIT, AS ITS EVERY WHERE ELSE. India is not poor in resources natural or brain (No need to put Exm here, World Knows), But its indeed a pond flooding with so much fishes than it can sustain.(illiteracy,wrong understanding of Religion, Weak becomes Wicked things) May be some day it will change, till than its plain efforts to get best you can while keep your daily conflicts carry on...
martinlandau wrote:India slow lanes for poor will get DACTYL nightmare level VR but zucker types will get 8K rez 100 bazillion polygon count vr yes?
It really does not matter. Here no one bother VR....We have much burning issues to deal with then traveling to meta verse. If i talk about INDIA There is more need of Infrastructure, Fish Number Controls, Fish Quality Improvement and Fish Empowerment then POND DECORATION or DREAMS OF VIRTUAL POND..So its really bad idea to discuss it. ;) Here its different mindset of general public. Its more to care of your self then bothering surroundings as even best efforts can not bring illumination over night.

BTW ZUKERBIRG SIR DID MET OUR PRESIDENT, PAID VISIT TO BIG MARKET.......LIKE ALL GIANTS DOING NOW, N WILL DO IN FUTURE.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/sli ... 782066.cms



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Cad u been here awhile. Always enjoyed your posts. Gonna spend some time for u.

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[–]valdovas 3 points 5 hours ago

You are right, that there is a merit in diversity. And I am sure that Palmer made quite a few bad calls and quite a few mmm ... misrepresentations (unintentionally of course) of competing products. As an engineer he has to make 100 bad calls to find right solution and that solution might change if there is some technological breakthrough. As an engineer and as a person he makes mistakes and grows, I do not think that it would be a good use of his time (and mental resources) to start every interview with a big list of what he thought will not work, but now he changed his mind and so on.

Yes, not everything what they say is be all and end all, but overallCrescent Bay is the best consumer VR headset.

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[–]martinlandau 1 point 2 minutes ago

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Can u prove Darth Luckey is an ignorant "unintentional" bumbling fool? Certainly he will give 100 million of his 600 million to the community at mtbs3d that gave ideas. Feedback. Testing. Etc? He is a nice guy after all. ; . Spock said idic. Infinite diversity infinite combinations. Greedy tyrants will be left behind as the rest of us open source types out innovate their dark closed source walled gardens. Chomp on that macho man.

(PS macho man is Palmers favorite wrestler. Scotsman Roddy piper is mine but of course)

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Manifest happiness geekmaster! Make your quantum reality!!

[–]HappierHimitsu 0 points 12 hours ago

I disagree. Palmer has been working with many various HMD's for a number of years before which he then became the head of arguably the biggest VR HMD company on the planet. I feel more than secure trusting his word on it.

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U deserve every darkness about to be heaped on u fool. When Tesla moved from France to New York in 1884, the penniless immigrant got a job at the Edison Machine Works as an engineer. Within a year, he was already solving technical problems for the company, and Edison approached him with the task of redesigning the DC generators for the entire company. He famously offered Tesla $50,000 if he could make the generators more efficient, and a few months later, Tesla came back with an improved design. But when he asked for his money, Edison laughed and said, “When you become a full-fledged American, you will appreciate an American joke.” Since Tesla had redesigned the generators while working for Edison, he had no claim to the patent, and essentially got nothing out of the agreement (although Edison offered him a raise of $10 per week. Tesla resigned on the spot).

A few years later, Tesla built his AC induction motor, and the War of the Currents began. Edison’s main campaign strategy was to prove that AC, which used much higher voltages than DC, was simply too dangerous to use in homes. And to prove that, he went to ruthless extremes. Most famously, he organized demonstrations executing stray dogs and cats, and later cows and horses. One of the first demonstrations took place in 1888, with the electrocution of a large dog named Dash. Edison first sent 1,000 volts of DC through the dog to prove that he would be—if not unharmed—still alive. Then, he hooked the dog up to 300 volts of AC and smoked the pup into oblivion.

And he was just getting warmed up. In 1903, Edison created his largest demonstration yet: He sent 6,600 volts of AC through a circus elephant named Topsy while 1,500 people stood by and watched. The execution was filmed and later released under the name Electrocuting an Elephant.

The real test came in 1890 though, and it was no ordinary animal: The victim was a convicted murderer named William Kemmler. Edison campaigned for the opportunity to create a “more humane” method of capital punishment and, still in the midst of the War of the Currents, he opted to create the electric chair with AC. After all, what better way to prove the dangers of AC than by killing a man with it? And he couldn’t have asked for a more visceral demonstration: The first charge burned through Kemmler’s insides for a whole 17 seconds, after which he was still gasping for breath. The second charge lasted four minutes, and Kemmler burst into flame before finally dying

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[–]martinlandau 1 point 5 minutes ago

Geekmaster had suggested very innovative Fresnel ideas. He was shot down by one sith Luckey. Is it possible like Tesla and Edison electrocuting cats to sway the public on ac v dc that someone with poor ethics will steal ideas privately, publicly try to wreck the tech and minds and morale of those behind it then profit off that very tech later? All is fair in love and war eh? Humans that see world through rosy colored Fresnel lens deserve their destruction for being idiots! Milk these sheep good padawan. Darth Luckey rides again! In the movie the usual suspects what was the greatest trick the devil ever pulled? In the movie they live with rowdy Roddy piper was everyone made a fool?

I am so pissed! http://knowledgenuts.com/2013/10/19/edi ... -ac-power/

Geekmaster robbed again!! Think happy thoughts. Peace joy love!

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–]erikvonvicious 16 points 12 hours ago

yeah but the real point you should be getting from that is that palmer might be too quick to discard things that dont fit his initial ultimate vision.

Infinite-eye was using fresnel lenses and palmer just talked trash about how they were terrible for VR image quality for various reasons and should not be used in a HMD. he still dismissed them when people drew light path diagrams, talked about how the image quality of fresnels were actually pretty good (some of us even bought the same optolife fresnels in the infinite-eye to see for ourselves)

yet now everyone is acting like Fresnel is the new big best thing and hes a genius for using them.

(not you personally but) lets have less circle-jerk apple-esq fanboyism in thinking that oculus is the only company that can decree whats good and whats bad for VR because like everything its never so simple. if the past few days has shown us anything its that there are many people now working on VR and not every approach is going to be the same, but more importantly not every approach should be the same as the Rift.

–]orick 1 point 11 hours ago

Who said CV1 will be using Fresnel lens?

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[–]WarChilld 4 points 8 hours ago

According to the attendant Bruce talked to the Crescent Bay has fresnel lenses.

–]HappierHimitsu -1 points 11 hours ago

I disagree. Palmer has been working with many various HMD's for a number of years before which he then became the head of arguably the biggest VR HMD company on the planet. I feel more than secure trusting his word on it.

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[–]erikvonvicious 18 points 11 hours ago

you not only missed the whole point of what I said but then demonstrated that extreme steve jobs type fanboyism I was also suggesting people dial back a bit.

dont get me wrong, palmer is a great guy, surely a genius for a variety of reasons but he is not the god some of you people make him out to be. his approach is also not the only one so there is plenty of room for more research using other components or multi screen layouts. as with the previously given example fresnels he avoided them but then obviously later found they could have useful properties in his specific implementation.

I think palmer would be the first to agree that there is a world of people out there, people with PHDs in making optics that could come up with some crazy geometry negative refraction wonder lens, teams of people doing research in other fields that could have side benefits for VR, advancements in material science, etc.

people need to serious STOP thinking anything oculus uses or says is the pinnacle of tech and end of vr research. forcing a very narrow focus is the best way to stagnate a technology.

lets not shut down ideas. any company should make whatever HMDs they want and then just naturally the best ones will provide direction for the future.

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Geekmaster had suggested very innovative Fresnel ideas. He was shot down by one sith Luckey. Is it possible like Tesla and Edison electrocuting cats to sway the public on ac v dc that someone with poor ethics will steal ideas privately, publicly try to wreck the tech and minds and morale of those behind it then profit off that very tech later? All is fair in love and war eh? Humans that see world through rosy colored Fresnel lens deserve their destruction for being idiots! Milk these sheep good padawan. Darth Luckey rides again! In the movie the usual suspects what was the greatest trick the devil ever pulled? In the movie they live with rowdy Roddy piper was everyone made a fool?

Cad palmer has 600 million dollars. He has told me he doesn't really care about big money. I would say without help here at mtbs3d he would not be where he is today. How much of that 600 million will he share? Jaron lanier says an economy where 1 can have 600 million and the rest that gave data ideas feedback or just a sounding board like palmer used this community for years for them to get nothing is wrong. Palmer gave is personal word to geekmaster for a dk2. He lied. He has no integrity. 600 million and could not keep his promise to geekmaster. Guess he can't afford a few hundred bucks with 600 million. U deserve everything coming to u cad with your hero worship in ways the movie dune warns and ways the bible warns. This community collectively is like gully foyle from tiger tiger stars my destination. Used for all its worth and abandoned like a used condom. Palmer drives a Tesla. How ironic - he is like Edison though. Made a promise to geekmaster and lied. Like Edison did Tesla. This is why I am going to enjoy uncle butch and congressman Wilson and the rest of the government rip him a new bum-exit. I have zero respect for someone worth 600 million lie to people like geekmastrr
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Cad while u hero worship let's talk more memes. http://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments ... es/cnihdy9

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http://www.head-fi.org/t/681806/you-are ... each-other

Another community he harvested to take under Facebook. See a pattern? Nikongod in this thread seems bitter that Darth Luckey wants to exploit poor people. God would not do that would he?

Whose vision? Got this from MTBS3D, Dec 22nd, 2007: (Manuel was the true visionary)

"you can play, work, entertain, and interact in a truly immersed 3D environment, creating an Alternative Universe. We call it the 'AlterSpace' ... Inside the AlterSpace, you can also watch true 3D videos in our floating plasmas. First you visualize your content in a guide with previews, and once you’ve selected the video, you can go full screen to see it in HD. ... You can load applications, work, play (pong 3D) and interact immersed in a true S-3D environment. You can explore in a game-like environment, and every single item looks just like in real life. "
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http://seedmagazine.com/content/article ... ny_aliens/

Cad have u read this article? Carmack could have been taking us to the stars instead of up our own brainstems. Is it possible he is a real manifestation of those creatures in doom that kill humanity. Dr kaku says the dinosaurs got wiped out. All this sitting around playing games and making star wars movies does not get USS enterprise built. Niel likes captain kirk. Is it possible we are paving a road to hell w goof intentions? Kaku days we need type 1 civilization fast. Asteroid out there with our name on it. Fermi paradox is damn peculiar eh? So many stars we can see and no dysan spheres or ring worlds. Guess other planets followed their carmacks and luckeys up there own brainstem too.
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Someone tried to pm me. I can't read PMS. Niel turned it off. Have to email. martinlandau2007@yahoo.com
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Showing schlong size he rams up into dumb sheep!

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Dr. Jason Jerald was one who first worked w valve (consultant) that went to oculus later. Did u see the movie exodus? Perhaps now it is oculus turn to see exodus. In movie dune it says each revolution breeds the seeds of its own destruction. We went from the old stereo3d site to mtbs3d to oculus to here. I was assured Aaron Swartz created this place to free us from tyranny. That i may be down voted into oblivion but the community would choose what to censor not a tyrant doing pink Floyd thought control. Do u fight for my freedom to have a voice? Even an unpopular one? I am shadowbanned. As to consumer grade vr I thought sucker said it could take 10 years. Kevin released good vr at Disney. Short controlled experiences that were nausea free. Carmack has released nausea inducing vr on a behemoth of different brain plasticities hardware PCs length of use etc. Doc OK has recently said this "tower of babel" may collapse like in the bible. Some enhancements that help reduce nausea in some developers here increase nausea in other developers here. It may be the baseline that helps vr for the most people is just like palmer said in his vr for the common man post in 2012 only being feasible at a vrcade and not at home. U don't want to look like a fool. However u may have been sold a hype lie that consumer vr will be ready soon. Do u have the capital to wait 10 years like zucker explained? Palmer has 600 million. He can last a few failed cycles while getting the rest of u to crash and burn in consumer vr while building small stepping stones for him to scoop up the rising phoenix from the ashes in 10 years. Don't be mad at kevin for trying to open your eyes to folly where vr has hope right now. Even palmer said in 2012 vr for the common man required out of home solutions. Before being corrupted by billions. He may need to be sued for getting u caught up in a consumer vr lie that he knew himself was not possible for maybe a decade. Want to join my uncle and congress in that?

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[–]kevinw729[F] 3 points 6 hours ago*

I appreciate your response and your observations - and your kind comments regarding my background. I have to say that writing on Reddit can be volatile, and many statements can come across as attacks rather that differences.

You are very correct I feel the GearVR is over priced - though I have not been snide about commenting on that and you will have read in many reviews that I am far from the only one that feels that - especially after what we have seen here at CES (I first called this a holster and will stay with that terminology as it takes a device (phone) and only comprises some limited electronics and lens). My comments regarding the co-founder of OVR were used as a means to call out the 'Palmer-clone' that was trolling on this forum - I have respect for the real Palmer (who was home schooled, though I do not think I called him a fool), if I did think he was a fool I would not have interviewed him for the book - though I am concerned of the revisionist history and will always call out regarding that - not snide in any way, but painfully honest.

"...Raising concerns over motion sickness and required specs for DK2 content but then promoting an HMD with no positional tracking and twice the resolution...."


I am interested that this is the second time a poster has accused me, while mentioning the work I am doing on another HMD's as competitive, or voiding me from having any right to opinions! Let be crystal clear, the 'BlueSky Pro' is a commercial entertainment VR HMD, and OVR Rift systems are consumer - OVR has no interest in commercial systems so there is no competition or conflict to be called - period. In asking questions about DK2 specs, and sim-sickness these are still the questions we all in the VR community need to have answered. Oh and by the way - the BlueSky will be launched with positional tracking, though I think you may already know that and was being snide... ;)

And that brings us to the glaring omission on your part which seems a little snide and very self serving in itself. I suppose the main thing that myself and other readers will notice from your remarks is your avoidance to name yourself, especially after you did the same thing to me so adding a stench of hypocrisy to your remarks - especially as there still may be some vested interest in your comments? I think we all deserve an apology for this - though I am getting a feeling that the vested interest you are avoiding mentioning could place you in a uncomfortable position for opening this can of worms which you may now regret!

"...Asking what my vested interest is but not disclosing which companies are paying for your consultation services...."


I also think many of the posters here will see the hypocrisy in that statement - in calling out my opinions as alluding to some biased because I am a consultant, while hiding in the shadows yourself after calling out my name (against Reddit rules)... not a good image you are leaving. This raises questions more against your position than any of mine as a know consultant I have the right to keep business confidences - though am still a free individual comment no matter involvements (which are numerous).

There is no bitterness to my views as that would imply that I had an ideal set that has been lowered - I am a realist, not bitter, just experienced. From what I have seen I am incredibly heartened by the true VR community - though I still have growing concerns that the structure and approach of some are far from ideal and is becoming filled with fanboys and hype in places. I will continue to be one of the voices of reason and have an alternative approach to promotion and execution. As has been seen recently, others are taking up this call, and we have seen with that at OVR forum and here some posters favoring personal attacks than counter comments - in some cases obvious 'Dark PR', no matter how paranoid some vested interests try to paint these claims.

You are not naive (from what I have read) or a fool - but you do need to focus on a counter to points than attempting to call out those questioning and requiring answers - you said it yourself, I have a collected experience in this sector, and am old enough to see when there is the danger of hype over substance - as my reporting from CES will prove in coming weeks. Thank you again for your kind comments.

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[–]Fastidiocy 1 point an hour ago

I completely understand about Reddit sometimes being volatile. All the subtle nuance conveyed by facial expressions and tone of voice are missing from purely text-based correspondence, and that void is often filled by misinterpretation. I'm as guilty as anyone of jumping to incorrect conclusions or failing to properly articulate my points. I'm playfully sarcastic by nature, and this rarely comes across properly when I type. This is actually something I think VR and telepresence has a lot of potential to help with.

Personally I don't put Gear-VR in the same category as cardboard-style head mounts which rely on a generic phone for all actual functionality. It provides such a different experience that a direct comparison becomes largely pointless. While the components alone certainly don't justify the price I'm sure you're aware of the hidden costs in bringing a product to market, such as R&D for both hardware and software, as well as the need to placate risk-averse executives at an enormous conglomerate like Samsung.

I didn't read the whole exchange, so I missed the fact that it was not actually Palmer you were talking about. I assumed you were being facetious and insulting him. Score one for the trolls. For the record, I share your concern about revisionism, and I'm very familiar with how it usually plays out. I intend to do my part to make sure the pioneers of the last fifty years aren't reduced to a footnote, though I'd argue that this happened last time too. That's not the fault of those involved though. Stories are just easier to tell when there are fewer characters.

It's not clear on the BlueSky product page that it's not a consumer device, so thank you for clarifying. I see now that it's in the FAQ document, but I stopped reading that after the tech specs as that's my area of interest. Thanks for clarifying the tracking as well. The FAQ was somewhat less clear regarding that, listing only improved accuracy rather than confirming full positional tracking.

I wasn't accusing you of anything or suggesting you cannot express opinions. I was pointing out how it's possible to perceive double standards. I don't believe you've acted improperly unless you've been dishonest and I don't believe working on a product should preclude you from criticizing competitors as long as you remain honest and accept that others may be vocal in their disagreement.

I also believe that my anonymity should not preclude me from expressing my opinions, and I hope that others are able to come to their own conclusions rather than weighting what people say based on who they instead of whether the evidence supports them or not. I refrain from publicizing my personal work or that of my employer, despite the fact that it would be easy to do so while retaining my anonymity. I also refrain from correcting misinformation regarding things I've worked on, people I've worked with, and even myself.

I wish I could say that this was all because I hold myself to a high professional standard, but as I said in my previous reply it's a matter of personal safety. With the current climate of hostility within the games industry I've never been more sure of my need to remain anonymous. I go to significant lengths to maintain this, and I'm not going to compromise it for you or anyone else. If that means you can't take anything I say in good faith, so be it.

I've already declared my vested interest. It's the same as the vast majority of people here. I want VR, as a user and a developer. If you're unable to accept this then I'm not sure what to say. What are you suggesting my motivations are? If what I say isn't accurate then who exactly am I supposed to be working for? Oculus? Facebook? Am I part of the dark-PR conspiracy? Don't get me wrong, I'm not dismissing that as paranoia, I just don't understand why you have such a hard time accepting that I simply don't like being harassed.

I hesitate to even respond to this, but if you're seriously suggesting that by addressing you by the first three letters of your username I have cracked the code and revealed your secret identity to the world then I need to be very clear so there's no room for misinterpretation here: That is absurd.

I've already said that you have the right to keep your business private and to express your opinions. That won't stop people from wondering though. If you don't want people wondering then you need to offer full disclosure. Depending on where you live and where you plan to do your reporting on CES, this may actually be required by law.

I don't consider any of this to be personal, and I hope you don't either. I honestly look forward to meeting you face to face at one of the meetups sometime, though hopefully you understand if I choose to introduce myself under a different name.
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Feed my brain info and I will spit back ways to topple kings. Its my braveheart DNA after all. Don't cut from loops.

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I'm playfully sarcastic by nature, and this rarely comes across properly when I type.

**I am too u get the trickster badge that explains this personality type that I think u kevin many of us share.**

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> Personally I don't put Gear-VR in the same category as cardboard-style head mounts which rely on a generic phone for all actual functionality. It provides such a different experience that a direct comparison becomes largely pointless. While the components alone certainly don't justify the price I'm sure you're aware of the hidden costs in bringing a product to market, such as R&D for both hardware and software,

**I am aware. Jaron lanier says u r not a gadget and who owns the future? That its not right u can exploit an mtbs3d community for r&d for years getting them hyped on a promised open source hmd that u later lie about and make 600 million on while their babies and families starve. That u then keep repeating the sin with lies that catch up others in new kickstarters knowing from your own vr for the common man post they have no chance in hell of lasting next to your 600 million. And u not really giving a screw either cause they are sheep to be sheered. U have your Tesla car and 600 million. screw em for being dumb. U keep the sin going still by cheating kickstarter hopefuls again taking nimble private and defiling kickstarter some more robbing more dreams of the common man enriching kingmakers! All the while jumping off stages saying screw the man while sheep cheer u on not realizing u r "the man" loving them. Fellow tricksters view your verbil Kent kaiser sose usual suspects devil trick in awe as u sheer sheep!**

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I'm very familiar with how it usually plays out. I intend to do my part to make sure the pioneers of the last fifty years aren't reduced to a footnote, though I'd argue that this happened last time too.

**although padawan used to go on stage w carmy and giving him that howlett leep vr info and kit business idea was the start later he has tried to ridicule and discredit me even attacking my sanity to try and break my morale. Ideas I sourced from many, manuel of tdvisor being key in the meme chain and david smith of wearlity too that revisors want to erase. Find it funny that carmack went to jail for a year and got psychiatric treatment and howlett exchanged emails w me long ago why was howlett and bolas not in wiki at least.**

That's not the fault of those involved though. Stories are just easier to tell when there are fewer characters.

**your opinion. I have documented lies to the contrary for years**
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> It's not clear on the BlueSky product page that it's not a consumer device, so thank you for clarifying. I see now that it's in the FAQ document, but I stopped reading that after the tech specs as that's my area of interest.

**you stopped reading? Have you cared to read the numerous studies I have linked at this censored account here how Facebook literally rewires your brain to have a short attention span?**

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> I wasn't accusing you of anything or suggesting you cannot express opinions. I was pointing out how it's possible to perceive double standards. I don't believe you've acted improperly unless you've been dishonest and I don't believe working on a product should preclude you from criticizing competitors as long as you remain honest and accept that others may be vocal in their disagreement.
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**no one debates my points. They call me crazy and try to shut me up and censor me. Trickster finds it humorous that former journalism student palmer does not want constructive criticism if it challenges his legacy. I was taught a good scientist is his own worst devils advocate before wasting colleagues time w peer review. He does not hype is train on them to solve the issues he won't deeply explore himself first.*"

> I also believe that my anonymity should not preclude me from expressing my opinions, and I hope that others are able to come to their own conclusions rather than weighting what people say based on who they instead of whether the evidence supports them or not.

**oh but it is so easy for this community to shoot me the messenger than debate my points.**

I refrain from publicizing my personal work or that of my employer, despite the fact that it would be easy to do so while retaining my anonymity. I also refrain from correcting misinformation regarding things I've worked on, people I've worked with, and even myself.

**I valued my anonymity too. Palmer took privaledged info on my real identity and exposed it here at reddit about a year ago. He went back in private and edited the post but I caught the sneaky snake. Good ethics in my padawan.**
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> I wish I could say that this was all because I hold myself to a high professional standard, but as I said in my previous reply it's a matter of personal safety.

**yes same reason. Don't want people trying to hurt me and my family and publicly told everyone at Facebook buyout with death threats on palmer and his girlfriend that is unacceptable to kill people and I did not support that even after all the negative things palmer did to me. Revealing my name at reddit and not showing me that privacy respect is no reason to keep escalating sins.**

With the current climate of hostility within the games industry I've never been more sure of my need to remain anonymous.

**real people are murdered by crazies everyday. Why did Palmer let his anger reveal my real name at reddit? After the exposure I gave him his wish and revealed my Facebook at oculus. Decades of moving through the webs in stealth to be undone by the very guy I helped from the beginning get this party started. The irony**

I go to significant lengths to maintain this, and I'm not going to compromise it for you or anyone else.

**I did too. Palmer disrespected that. What other evil does king do by ignorance or intent**

> I've already declared my vested interest. It's the same as the vast majority of people here. I want VR, as a user and a developer.

http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpbb/viewtopic.p ... 764#p64287

**Palmer KNEW years ago consumer vr was not the best way. Kevin Williams disney vr was the way. Redditors here saying the Nate palmer word cloud at ces was plastered with vestibular mismatch meme. Not solveable at home for awhile. Is it possible Paul atriedes from dune zuckered u and your life into something he knew in 2012 was not possible? Even zucker saying 10 years maybe? Keep calm and follow the money**

addressing you by the first three letters of your username I have cracked the code and revealed your secret identity to the world then I need to be very clear so there's no room for misinterpretation here: That is absurd.
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**NSA can crack RSA. One small piece of info is all it takes to reveal u. That is how palmer burned me. Maybe not even that.**

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Google will know the answer to your question before you have asked it, Kurzweil said. “It will have read every email you will ever have written, every document, every idle thought you’ve ever tapped into a search-engine box. It will know you better than your intimate partner does. Better, perhaps, than even yourself.”

But here’s the catch: the NSA and all other government agencies will also know you better than yourself. As William Binney, one of the highest-level whistleblowers to ever emerge from the NSA said, “The ultimate goal of the NSA is total population control.”

**I use martinlandau because decades ago my ai professor showed us movie "access code" watch it.**

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> I don't consider any of this to be personal, and I hope you don't either. I honestly look forward to meeting you face to face at one of the meetups sometime, though hopefully you understand if I choose to introduce myself under a different name.

** I told padawan for years not to conflate his celebrity figure with the human being underneath. If u will watch this rense video though on how Facebook makes us care more about a social media profile than a real human u may understand. That the code algorithms to do this to us for profit maybe needs congressional investigation?**
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Padawan keeps making reference to me getting mental help and seeing psychiatrists, but I never hear updates on one johm carmack who did indeed go to jail for a year in juvie and was sent to psychiatrists for head shrinking. Perhaps padawan needs to explore plank in own eye before splinter in mine gets plucked? Is possible Neil and others have legal case against Oculus for SCAM.

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Bill Black called it a “recipe for fraud.” But Professor Black was wrong -- it's not a fraud, it’s a scam. You see, fraud involves something where there is a violation of the law; no rules appear to have been broken here. This is how the JOBS Act is supposed to work: Let people make dumb decisions on their own, without any protection.
Bill Black, of keating 5 fame, good friends of my mentor, Warren Mosler. Mosler funds university he lectures at after all.
A scam on the other hand, is when people are legally duped out of their money. When the auto dealer offers you “rust-proofing,” it’s a scam.
Auto Dealer? Who do we all know has a father that was a used car salesman? One Palmer Luckey?
Jaron lanier in new video says Bill Gates has become spiritual guru, do whats right for the common man.
It was common in nazi germany to kill people, lots of officers were doing it. They fried at nuremburg trials years later. Just because kickstarter is currently being hustled, by many, does not mean in future people like bill black, bill gates, warren mosler, many politicians, will not bring financial and criminal prosecution to violators if populous rage swings that direction. I remember famous comedy central daily show jon stewart clip where "grandma millie" was getting the shaft by oil traders robbing old grandma out of her pension. Enron was bigger than oculus, they went down, and executives jailed. Microfinance laws, SEC, oculus, maybe all swept up in next election cycle. Those masses, so unpredictable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLMVB0B1_Ts Fanfare of the common man
(from the article) WSJ's Corporate Intelligence on Oculus's crowdsourced 2012 fund-raiser.Caveat Emptor, baby!
http://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments ... or/cniub5t
[–]Doc_Ok KeckCAVES[F] 8 points 4 days ago that's on the consumer. So you're fully subscribing to caveat emptor then? That goes against most jurisdictions, including the US, particularly implied warranty of fitness for a particular purpose.
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You can't bring truth to a man whose income depends on the lie

Anyone else's nausea just getting worse and worse? • /r/oculus

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You know its over, things that make some people better, make other people sicker, its an unsolveable problem, game over. No one is going to put up with this poop for a consumer device, having to retrain pavlovian responses. The thing is palmer and crew was advising people to soldier on through and get thier VR legs a ways back, how bad should the lawsuits be for that? What will internal emails at oculus reveal when the lawyers come? Who will be the first to bail and inform on colleagues? A successful game strategy is for the first few that inform, they get the FREE PASS for turning in the other crooks, the ones last leaving the sinking ship will get no leniency, the full brunt of the hammer will come down on them. Scary.

[–]CaptnYestrday 2 points 14 hours ago
in addition to these (all great tips, btw), try being in a cool environment with a fan blowing on you. Sounds wierd, but helped lower the sickness in most people that I let try DK1 and 2. Doc_Ok has really nailed it though. That is likely what is happening and how you need to make the new association. Good luck!!!!
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I found a fan blowing on me made things worse. My Girlfriend had the same reaction too.
I thought it would increase the immersion factor of Assetto Corsa when you're driving the open top cars but it made me stop playing quickly (and I can normally play that for ages without feeling ill).

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQaOB44Iy5E What yuri russian hackers, and german cliff stoll cuckoos egg hackers had carmys internal notes and all kinds of other oculus internal emails? Did't hollywood just have a bunch of emails go public, damn that sucks! What we gonna find when all these VR emails go public? Geekmaster told me secrets suck. This documentary shows lots of other humans think secrets suck too - its about cyberpunks. Maybe cybereality would like to chime in on cyberpunks, maybe some people lost a lot of respect for him when he stayed on after facebook took over, maybe he can redeem himself one day.
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G33KMAST3R just posted this at reddit, (note the spelling, so may not be the GEEKMASTER we all love here, but it could be, who knows who on the anonymous internet, he may even have personalities he is not aware of) As time goes forward, and thoughts coalesce over time, here was something else to add to this holy vr shrine. I like the idea that MTBS3D was a bunch of wise jedi's, a good jedi council if you will, with geekmaster, and niel, and others like wise old sage jedi s3d masters, like in the star wars movies, and padawan palmer was brought into that jedi council with love and friendship, and just like in the movie, he gave in to the dark side, and sold out to the empire, but now it seems that was the wrong path, because the deathstar is blowing up around him, the rebel alliance got tired of their tyranny, and now annakin has a choice to make, go down with emporer palpatine, or come back to his friends in the jedi council like niel yoda, and jedi master geek, and Jedi Knight Kevin and throw that tyrannical emporer Z over the side, or perish with him.

http://www.reddit.com/r/virtualreality/ ... _a/cpiby2q

Yah crazy isn't it? I am one of the best posters they had over there, some of my threads would get 3 or 4 thousand hits. After I left their forums started to die down in some ways.
http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpbb/viewtopic.p ... 23&start=0 Palmer always had a special place in his heart for me, because this is where he got the IDEA for wide FOV hmds back in 2009, by a guy called martin landau. (palmer has publicly went on stage saying finding that leep vr info from me was the real start of his brainstorming and the rift)
Got his business idea for making a kit, for selling it, and even sent that martin landau guy his private address back in 2009 there so he could get money and equipment from martinlandau to start his project, and martin landau was the first person to offer to fund him. Cybereality used to have a quote signature that said ANYTHING is obvious once it has been exlpained to you, or shown to you, that was Cybereality paying homage to me for that "goodwill" I gave to palmer at the start, when he was an ignorant newbie. Socrates has a famous quote, education is the firing of a spark, not the filling of a vessel. Needless to say after myself and so many other people helped Palmer for FREE, for a PROMISED open source HMD, we all kinda felt BETRAYED when our little padawan, that we brought under our wings into our MTBS3D jedi council, went with Darth Iribe into kickstarter closed source death star stuff, when that was not what little padawan promised. Its his modus operandi though, sticking it to me, the others at MTBS3d, then the free help he got from tone types at vrtifacts, sticking it to them, the free help from valve further along in time, and notch, sticking it to them, (and even carmack BLESSED the FREE OPEN SOURCE HMD with his fame and celebrity, and in a way he got stuck in the back too, but he tried to salvage what he could when he saw these backstabbers going up a 2 billion dollar capital offer so he could TAKE BACK some of that free goodwill he gave at the beginning)
http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpbb/viewtopic.p ... 800#p27293 Here is where I helped a guy named YOMER, months before palmer even showed up at mtbs3d, telling him too about leep vr stuff, and a dual input z800 hmd. (that I had, working on USAF projects at the time) If you will read that whole thread, you will find a lot of what is JUST NOW being hyped as NEW INVENTIONS and ideas, was solved in that thread in 2009. 6 years ago now. (lots of good people, smart people, have come and gone in this sector/industry, and cycles rise and fall, many were before me, I was on the shoulders of giants, and all of us at the end hopefully benefit one day as multiple cycles come and go, but if just a few at the top have the lockdown on ideas, and patents, and such, that so many other helped to make, it hurts society at the macro scale I think, this is why I support open source as much as possible, so all brothers in mankind can be rewarded equally, and not a few enriched at the cost of the many)
Many of us were working on private projects, myself ones involving the USAF, so didn't want to share too much, but still helped when we could, and didn't go into NEAR the closed source walled garden madness that padawan finally went into. :( This patent system we have today, the one that enriches a few large corporations at the rest of humanity, it must die, in fact it will die, it has become an impediment to humanity in the way it is currently formed, instead of a benefit as it was originally intended. Have hope, mankind is a strong species, and he will survive this trangression, with more time, this vile thing will be knocked out of our way, and we will all come back together again helping each other build a better future for us all. Padawan could have been part of that future, with time, maybe annakin luckey can be so again.


Anyways its st patricks today, and I am eating a bowl of luckey charms (notice how I spelled that?) cereal, cause they are yummy, and maybe there is a pot o gold at the end of that brony pony rainbow.

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Here is a picture of brony pony rainbows, it keeps getting banned at Oculus, oculus just banned it again a few days ago, I don't know why someone keeps banning something so wonderful! Brony pony rainbows at the end of luckey charms, with pots o gold. When light hits water, it refracts off it at 42 degrees creating brony pony rainbows, and that is the answer to life, the universe and everything, 42, so there is something about UNIVERSAL wisdom in this picture.

http://voicesofvr.com/47-bernhard-drax- ... esurgence/

Here is DRAX, talking about creativity, agency, CONTROL in our metaverse futures, and he says BEWARE some companies that may not let you have FREEDOM,

Drax has taken it upon himself to try to counter this negative media narrative by documenting the creativity that inspires him from Second Life, as well as running a weekly Metaverse podcast called “the drax files radio hour [with Jo Yardly]“

He provides a number of insights into for people express their identity in Second Life and has a lot of concerns for what a Facebook metaverse would look like in terms of data mining or limiting people’s expressions of identity. Facebook has a lot of strict rules about connecting your online identity with your actual identity and if these practices carry over into virtual worlds, then Drax is afraid of unnecessary limitations on people’s agency over their identity and how they creatively express themselves through their avatar.

I feel the universe telling me this BRONY PONY 42 RAINBOW picture is very important for people to know, and understand, and constatnly question why it is ALWAYS BANNED at oculus, when 42 is the answer to life, the univers and everything?


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The luckey leprechaun has many hats, on the front of this box of cereal I count like 8 hats, there is an old inside valve joke about HATS, so many hats, joe ludwig just posted some new code for STEAM VR, and there was something in that code about HATS, can someone illuminate me on this HATS idea that is an internal joke at valve?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWEDZFoLmyA


So here is a video of Scotty, an old aberdeen pub crawler drinking lots of scotch, and I just want to wish Niel and Pam and baby many good st patricks day wishes, and let them know I never forgot the help they gave padawan palmer for YEARS, and now with him worth 600 million, will he do anything to help and remember them back, since they are a family with kids that should be remembered? I raise my glass of GREEN nyquil (st patties day yes) in a toast to Niel and crew here at MTBS3D! Who knows the butterfly effects of where little padawan luckey charms would be today if not for his help here! Maybe just some other starving kid in mommas basement.

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A toast to you Niel, and to MTBS3D, and to all the others that have come before, that got all of us to where we are today, happy st patties day! CHEERS!
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martinlandau wrote:... can someone illuminate me on this HATS idea that is an internal joke at valve? ...
Hat Fortress 2!

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Also, there are multiple posts at reddit where G33KMAST3R claims to be martinlandau, so perhaps he is telling the truth, or perhaps not. You never know what is real or which layer of the matrix you are in after you have swallowed the RED and the BLUE pills together, eh? Did you say purple rabbit hole?

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8-)

TF2 hats for sale! Get 'em while they're hot!

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geekmaster wrote:... Also, there are multiple posts at reddit where G33KMAST3R claims to be martinlandau, so perhaps he is telling the truth, or perhaps not. You never know what is real or which layer of the matrix you are in after you have swallowed the RED and the BLUE pills together, eh? ...
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martinlandau, why are you copy/pasting conversations I had with Kevin on Reddit? And the messages you sent me. It's creepy.
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Fastidiocy wrote:martinlandau, why are you copy/pasting conversations I had with Kevin on Reddit? And the messages you sent me. It's creepy.
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