Sensics releases the dSight dual 1080p 130°FOV HMD

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Sensics releases the dSight dual 1080p 130°FOV HMD

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Some mtbs users seem to be a big inspiration for giant VR companies like Sensics.
Sensics cames up with the hmd "Dsight" that uses two FHD screens like Infiniteye.
The hmd itself weights 575 grams and has a fov of 130 degrees (Infinite Eye 353 grams and 210 deg).
The horizontal fov=120 deg and vertical fov=54 deg.
It uses two 5inch 1080p screens connected with dual hdmi.
"Rsight", also from Sensics, has one 5 FHD screen. The Fov is 60 deg.
I cannot tell anything about the price.....
Here is the link: http://sensics.com/sensics-releases-the ... ramic-hmd/
Full immersive research:

HMD:
SONY HMZ-T1
FOV: 40° diagonal

HMD project:
FOV: >180°

Link: http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=14332
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Pretty cool! But I have a feeling they will sell those suckers at more that 1k.

I just don't feel that consumers will spend that much on a HMD unless are hardcore enthusiast. Sensics are definitely a veteran in the field but they are not really known on the mainstream, and now definitely lagging in the public awareness when compared to the Rift and Sony. I wonder who is their target market and price point? But it seem that the professional sector I would think.

Thanks for sharing the info! :)
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The prices from that company are insulting, i bet that thing don't cost less than 6,000$ even if is an exact hybrid of infinieye and oculus, but thanks to this kind of companies and prices the oculus and a new generation of affordable HMD is being born from the garage of people like palmer and all of you who have a passion and lurk this forums!, thanks for sharing this!
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Sony and Microsoft also start to copy HMD's from Oculus Rift :?
http://gizmodo.com/project-morpheus-son ... 1546819815
http://www.roadtovr.com/microsoft-enter ... r-headset/
The hmd's are 90 deg fov.

I cannot tell anything about the pros and the cons. I wish the best for both: Oculus Rift, Sony and Microsoft.
The prices would stay on the same level, I think. Cheap HMD's would allow further developement by VR geeks (or hackers). Also high quality Displays (1080p or 4K) would be an advantage for wide fov research without difficulty. Now I have to deal with screen Door effects from my android (1024x600). The screens have to be sharper allowing wider FOV, the following step toward VR.
Full immersive research:

HMD:
SONY HMZ-T1
FOV: 40° diagonal

HMD project:
FOV: >180°

Link: http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=14332
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Click only the Sony link, not the link Microsoft.
Microsoft HMD is a April fool's day article: http://www.roadtovr.com/microsoft-enter ... r-headset/
:lol:
Full immersive research:

HMD:
SONY HMZ-T1
FOV: 40° diagonal

HMD project:
FOV: >180°

Link: http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=14332
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Hi,

The Sensics dSight is the first serious commercial, dual panel, head mounted display.

It could be considered the 'gold-standard' for this kind of display, and serve as a benchmark for more economical versions to be compared against.

Unlike other startups coming onto the virtual reality scene, Sensics is an established business with very high end capabilities.

I look forward to more details of their device being published.

This step by them is validation that the new generation of head mounted displays is for real and there will be many players entering this market. Expect the technology race and price points to get competitive from here on.

Thanks.
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budda wrote:The Sensics dSight is the first serious commercial, dual panel, head mounted display.
It's left to be seen if it's going to be a commercial HMD (as in consumer-oriented). I seriously doubt it considering their current pricing scheme. Their pro offering is around $30,000 and their first try at a "consumer" HMD (SmartGoogles) was at $4000 and never saw the light of the day (announced in Jan 2012).

With a 54° vertical FOV I wouldn't say it's a "serious" product for VR either. It's half the vertical FOV of the Rift and it only has a marginally higher horizontal FOV (120° vs 100° for the DK2).

I think the market of this company is seriously threatened by the Oculus Rift and they're desperately looking for other markets to survive, but I don't see that happening.
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Fredz wrote:
budda wrote:The Sensics dSight is the first serious commercial, dual panel, head mounted display.
It's left to be seen if it's going to be a commercial HMD (as in consumer-oriented). I seriously doubt it considering their current pricing scheme. Their pro offering is around $30,000 and their first try at a "consumer" HMD (SmartGoogles) was at $4000 and never saw the light of the day (announced in Jan 2012).

With a 54° vertical FOV I wouldn't say it's a "serious" product for VR either. It's half the vertical FOV of the Rift and it only has a marginally higher horizontal FOV (120° vs 100° for the DK2).

I think the market of this company is seriously threatened by the Oculus Rift and they're desperately looking for other markets to survive, but I don't see that happening.

If Sensic do not snap out and see the fact of the imminent changing of the VR market paradigm, and start working on a competitive product in the consumer arena soon, they will be in big problems in 5 to 7 years. Once the perception of HMD's spreads and AT AFFORDABLE prices, it will happen the same like any other industry. Either adapt of bye bye, and can be too late like many in the past. They could retain some market on the top end, but even their relevance will be in jeopardy. It is obvious that they rely on Military contracts and other things top end insdustries, but when economy speaks, well nothing is bullet proof.

Funny I wrote on a thread a month or two prior about the Oculus been watched by bigger fishes. It was sort of a foreshadowing to what really happened. Not that takes to be a rocket scientist. But it is similar to Sensics. They really need wake up relatively soon, they still have some time. But their window of reaction time is getting slowly shutting down.

I agree, there are several dual headsets that will come in. Even my Dual Unit can produce more FOV. Their unit is 550 plus Grams which is not the lightest unit. The infiniteye is 353 BUT is not a pruduction model, so i am pretty sure that the unit would be heavier that their current prototype. Never the less their unit would offer more immersion due to their FOV coverage.

Heck you can print my unit (free file) and get similar FOV coverage. But the software must be completed by the community (also free to download). As it stand is a starting point., but is a free option to anyone.

There are other companies all over the world that are eager to get in the party ASAP, and the majority will aim as low price as possible (almost guaranteed must below 600$). So Sensics have their work cout out for them.
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Hi,

Nothing much seems to be written about Moores Law (and the like) being relevent to virtual reality technologies.

Moores Law is directly relevent.

Its relevent in terms of pixel densities on screens, miniaturization and power efficiency of electronics, and speed of processing and wireless communications.

You just have to look at the evolution of the Castar prototypes to see how the picoprojector capability has advanced and the electronics have been consolidated to a one chip solution.

Likewise for the retinal micromirror display for the Avegant Glyph.

As for Sensics dSight, I doubt they would go to all this trouble coming forward with their glasses if they did not want to proceed with its ultimate developments.

Thanks.
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One big advantage with retroreflective screen is, the mixing possibility between your hands that belong to the reality AND the retroreflective space wherein the observator is walking through. That could match perfectly. One disadvantage, the interpupilar projection tolerance: big distance projections could reflect images to both eyes and the image could be seen double.
Castar prototypes is based on an earlier study with retroreflective mirrors. The HMD from Kiyokawa "HMPD" (also a HMD I'm planning to replicate) has the same technique as Castar. Retroreflection, a big potential for both: light weight headset, augmented reality, super wide Field of view and easy to build.
Link HMPD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rvDYF7XCjw
Full immersive research:

HMD:
SONY HMZ-T1
FOV: 40° diagonal

HMD project:
FOV: >180°

Link: http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=14332
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Sensics produces 'consumer' displays in the sense that they aren't one-off prototypes, but they really only target industrial and r&d customers. Their price range reflects that, and before the Rift (and re-purposing of handheld screens) typical consumer HMD's were around $750-$1000 (vuzix, sony hmz-t2).

When the market is too small to employ the magic of mass production, these are reasonable prices. Doesn't change the fact that they're outside of enthousiasts' budgets, but I wouldn't call it insulting.

FYI, I fully expect they're going to go out of business as soon as the consumer market for HMD's takes off in a year or so.
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The following step would be the way HMD's are used (from asocial to social use). A big example is the CastAR, a augmented reality headset that provide interactivity beween users and real objects.
The link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOI5UW9khoQ
The price is lower than the Oculus but it uses the same technology as Canon hmd for example.
Palmer also made a big risk on the point that there was not a big HMD market yet, but the dk1 and dk2 succeed in a mass production.
Sensics was funded by the US government for about 20+ million. Oculus for 2+ million....
The price should be convincing, if the quality and innovation is convincing....
But I wish I could try out those hmd's. In my country VR is not that popular as in the US or in Germany.
Full immersive research:

HMD:
SONY HMZ-T1
FOV: 40° diagonal

HMD project:
FOV: >180°

Link: http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=14332
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