I'm moving on to complete the DIY guide website. As proven, you can't reason with someone who put words in your mouth.

Just stop feeding into him, hopefully his tag with his mouth is out of here, nothing he types is a topic but flamming people, 500 posts of the same crap and then harps on others, no need for it.

@ancjob: Sorry bro, but you will have to watch your behavior. There is no need to call people names or otherwise make fun of them.

Where is the like button?

To be fair, Sony is actually selling the HMZ-T1 for both movies and games.

From http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores ... mber=HMZT1 :

"Get admission for one to a private movie theater playing all your favorite movies and games in insanely immersive 2D or 3D on dual HD OLED displays, plus built-in virtual 5.1-channel surround sound."

"Feel like you're sitting 12 feet away from a 150" screen and make getting into your game or watching your favorite movie an all-new adventure."

"The Head Mount Display is adjustable for head size and comfort, Surprisingly lightweight it provides the wearability you need to fully enjoy your favorite movies or games."

Also these images clearly illustrate that it was also intended for gaming :

where is the 'like' button ? Fredz has a valid point to make that sony is for movie+games......i did not even bother to check sony website as sony is just not what i want.......

Here we go again lol - we never stated that it wasn't designed for games (as I specifically stated it was designed to help with the PS3 3d game bandwagon hence no need for tracking and the comfort mods that people are doing...) - the argument was regarding modding the unit for VR use with a PC - basically adding comfort mods and tracking to the unit... a specific indvidual was arguing that the mods should not be nessasary and that it was an incomplete HMD... we were simply stating that it is designed to work as it was intended to... a personal displayer that you sit down, relax, put it on and watch (or play) your media of choice. We are simply making it better (or worse depending on whose post you are reading lol) - customizing to our specific needs.

Exactly. It was designed as a movie viewer, and while they do market it for games, they definitely don't market it for "virtual reality". No head tracking or control capabilities make it pretty clear that you are not supposed to move around or jump up and down while wearing it, which is what we want to do!

1)what i have read is that it was not all about mounting trackers that mods are being applied - people have succeeded in getting the tracker IR to work with it[read here somewhere] .....the point is it's VERY 'front-heavy'.....and the pressure is on forehead with those small forehead plastic pieces [so the 'front-heavy' weight is not distributed evenly [comapare with headplay]]...so not conducive for watching even a 90 min movie let alone playing ps3 games....almost in every forum the same issue - at one time i was almost ready to buy.....but after reading the posts in forums the world and watching the videos online - i decided to wait.......after all it's a question of spending usd1500 [240v version] and i need to get the best for that kind of investment...

2)palmer - you had shown the tear down [inside-of] of sony ....given the kind of assembly [panels/lenses/moving parts] i do not see that there is a possibility of making it glasses style[like st1080] unless they re-design hardware from the scratch which they will not do at least for quite sometime ....please correct me if am wrong

3)and to top it all a big control box with wall outlet to connect to....portability a no-no! Cannot their TOP engineers design something like small usb powered box with HDMI input...which cinemizer and SMD have shown that it is indeed possible and with a built-in battery inside...not something unheard of as of now...

review here : very subjective & accurate [as if i was reviewing it critically with no bias hehehe] : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJPhV75vN9s
frankly we may not see a glasses style sony HMD ever!....at least for now

2) If you read what I say in my teardown, I mention that making it glasses style is completely possible. In fact, some of the pictures show the panels mounted in my glasses style case I got from am Olympus HMD. If I can do that in a few hours, I am sure the Sony engineers could make a glasses style HMD as well.

3) They were not trying to make something portable. If you read some of my later stuff in the HMZ thread, you will see that I and several other people have converted the HMZ-T1 to run directly off 5v USB power, allowing you to cut the size of the control box in half. Portability is already possible, and I am sure the Sony engineers could make it even smaller, but why bother? This device was designed to sit on a couch and watch movies with, not watch movies on the go. A battery would be an extra cost that most people would not even use, pointless to include it, especially when the price is already so high.

i read about the 'autopsy' [read tear-down] of sony HMD sometime back....

if you have 'perfected'
{
- the usb power supply , latest 3D support and modding on olympus lenses....then let u be doing the mods for all of us......just cannot wait a million years for sony to do it...Sony in fact needs guys like u to mod stuff....which their elite engg. team find it so difficult to accomplish...
}
else
{
let's wait for glasses style usb powered sony HMD with / without built-in battery....
}
endif
BTW - cinemizer OLED is slated to be for sale in may '12
not sure of st1080 - need to wait and watch.

I petition to have ancjob banned, then tarred, then feathered, and finally shot into space. In 3D.

so plenty of choice for HMDs in May - cinemizer OLED, st1080 and sony HMZ[Dorky stuff] to choose from...and bad news for Sony

I would buy the Sony HMD just to view that in crystal clear 3D, we can let him wear his z800 so he can view the event him self in low res blurry 1 gen OLED quality....

seems if you have a lot of money to waste , donate to charity , help the poor and earn yourself great karmas else your soul will forever ROT in your sins.....

i will wait to get reviews , do research and then get in the HMD game when it's the right time......like i said wise-men first think and then buy and dorks do the opposite.....get my point now figure it out which category you belong - wise-man or a Dork.....make your choice

You speak of karma - you might want to look back at some of your posts...

what do u see in my posts.......the lesson being - "being wise and NOT pound-foolish" or wisemen VS Dorks " some do not like it and get into profanity [sin] [ego gets them to commit sins] which comes back to them [newton's law] but my great karmas remain intact......hehehe

Ancjob writes like a child, but if you sift through all the taunts and insults I think he has some valid points.

There is a viable market for game-ready VR hardware, and Sony "dropped the ball" with the HMZ-T1 by not supporting that market very well. That decision seems even more shortsighted given the fact that Sony has so much invested in gaming and could have positioned the HMZ-T1 as the "companion" technology to the PlayStation. Sony lost a lot of momentum in the last round of motion technology to Nintendo and Microsoft. Moving in the direction of VR console gaming would have been a bold move on their part, and would have separated them from the pack and brought a lot more excitement to their offering and to gaming in general.

As it stands now, the technology in the HMZ-T1 is tantalizing. Sure it can be modified for a better fit and portability. But there is only an infinitesimal segment of the market that is willing to do that, so the VR gaming market will remain small and largely unsupported. Now imagine if Sony had designed the HMZ-T1 as their strategic vision for the PlayStation! What if game developers were sent Sony development platforms with an integrated HMD solution, and knew that there were going to be millions of these units in homes. Just think how cool the next generation of games would be if they were designed from the start for VR hardware!

I agree - but that is based on what if... I dream of that day, however that is day is not currently here... and we will make do with what we can.

The fact is he is bashing people for experimenting with their unit. I am counting down the days (2 to go lol) until I will own my unit. I can't wait to play with it, mod it, and have future fun with the all of the mods and hacks that individuals are using.

He is waiting for the right HMD to fit his needs - which is perfectly fine. It just pisses me off to watch him slam others for no other reason other than to try and justify why he is waiting for his perfect HMD.

I will soon be a proud owner of the HMZ. If V2 comes out next year (and my country receives more that 150 units lol) I would not be surprised if I grab one of these as well if the improvement are that much better. If another option proves to be a better solution I will grab that...

seems you have a lot of money to waste ....so what's the point buying HMDs recklessly ?when i joined the forum i also had the same instinct but i matured pretty fast !

if u got money to waste then finance poor people , help the poor , help poor children get free education , provide free meals to poor , free med treatment to poor and needy....theses are the ways to waste money and make yourself immortal for generations to remember instead of buying one HMD after the other , technology keeps advancing but then get the product when it meets your needs - do reaserch , watch online review videos.....be wise with your money else 'waste' making the society a better place to live for others to look up to you for great karmas and an example to emulate.....

"you matured pretty fast"??? - lol

I work hard for my money and will spend it the way I please - thank you for your concern... maybe I should by 2 of them just to piss you off...

Can someone please ban this guy - we are not here to discuss morals - we are here to discuss the technology...

right - we are here to discuss the technology and sony simply sucks...

in INDIA we have a 'saying' ...."Fool and his money are always parted" so whether you buy one sony or more - does not matter , fits the 'saying'

BTW who's pissed....?

I don't think you can fault anyone for buying a HMZ-t1. If an HMD was what you were after, what else is there to buy if picture quality and easy 3D compatability matters to you.
It seems to be a very, very big step up in image quality from anything before it.
I did not think they were really going to release it to the public.
I still need money to buy one but am still amazed they are really on the market for me to buy(when in stock). Just did not see it coming.

Ancjob has been banned for one month. Neil struck the blow, not me.

The dude had it coming... good riddance...

Thank you - I hate seeing individuals banned however I have never been so worked up from an individuals comments!

The hours are counting down to my HMZ ownership - can't wait!!!

Theres another good saying, 'Empty cans rattle the most'.

I just ignore him, but he is skewing the signal to noise ratio. I come here to hear intelligent informed stuff, from knowledgeable people, not lots of posts that contribute nothing.

Ouch... he's ban too fast. I want to see him response to all the junk he bought. So call intelligent and smart purchase. Don't see his karma is any better.

Buying junk tablet. Keep on buying nude female figurine DVD, Caligula II (and rant that he didn't get all the uncut goodies) ... hell, I know what you watch on your Z800 last summer.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-rev ... QZEGUWHKBM

I try not to get involved in such things, but I actually found the past weeks comments rather amusing.

Everybody knows not to feed trolls, yet they do it anyway......

Perhaps some GOOD adult content would have prevented this? I expect most of the guys on here have done some one handed computing.

Also, if anybody would like to improve their karma and help the poor, I would love a HMZ!.....

Well hopefully ancjob will take this as a lesson, and return to the site in a more civil manner. To be honest, he does have some valid points. Its just the way he goes about things are very negative and offensive. And he fails to consider that people have different requirements and reasons for buying a product. Mostly I think he is trying to convince himself more than any of us. But whatever.

Hi everybody
touring the site now - seems it has everything for everyone remotely interested in 3D
great website so much info...

loads of HMDs to choose - st1080,HMZ,cinemizer OLED.....
i have seen emagins been traded....have they lost their charm ? - yet so expensive still!

and what 's this HDMI thing common to new HMDs....is it like VGA ?
i have evg920e from ebay purchased a long time back they are so easy to use.....just set resolution to SVGA on PC and there you have the image but the image cannot compete with that of a good TV....and they are usb powered

and these new ones are quite expensiv

wow! this dude must be made of money - tablets, expensive DVDs....video goggles - i guess he lives life king-size....lemme go thru his posts....being Indian myself - am interested to know what tech stuff he knows...and z800 - it will take 2 yr to save just enough to get z800......this dude is indeed made of money

This is just comedy at this point. ROFL!!!!!!!!!

What wows me is that our second Indian member ever happens to join the day after the first is banned, also happens to be the only person on the forum who does not think Ancjob is a joke, and has apparently taken the time to read back tens/hundreds of posts!

i have not yet toured the site completely yet....let alone reading someone's post who happens to be filthy Rich and Indian like me ...buys all sorts of stuff [ see the amazon link]

is every'dy here extremely rich ?....for me usd699 is like saving for 1 yr....to invest - lot of money. and you guys talk abt it as if it's not usd699 but usd6....wow!

for me i have been interested in this since glasstron days.....a kinda fascination...for me
anyhow will wait - so far my eveg920e ebay glasses is working ok....and do not have so much yet to pre-order.....unless they have a return policy still then 'd be hard pressed to pay usd699 straight...

I don't really know how Ancjob gets his money, but you could probably go and ask him yourself, considering that you both live in the same city!

As for being rich, India has lower average income than most Western countries, globally speaking. Cost of living is cheaper, sure, but it makes buying consumer products quite a bit harder.

same city - which city? - too bad he's out , let's see if he's back - like to contact especially since he owns z800 which i can never buy even 'used' one so expensive......an usd1799 stuff and i have heard that it's so much in demand that used one sells for usd1000+....but that's a lot of money......my eveg920e is ok for occasional movie watching but it's tech.. which i like....

You both live in Delhi.

If you really want to know how the Z800 compares to other things on the market, you could ask one of the other more informed members on the forum. I have a Z800 myself.

lucky u guys..owning a z800....

especially that dude in Delhi.....wanted to know in action what makes that thing usd1799 and what it has which sets it apart from my humble eveg920e.......let's see if he's back my bad luck that he's out...

BTW - Delhi is known for rich ppl here but i am not that lucky ....

regd z800 - what's the use - when i cannot afford it for me eveg920e just ok for the time being BTW like as i said i like the tech....not that i use eveg920 too much .....rarely i watch a movie but i am kinda old fuddy-duddy - still like my CRT 21 inch TV way better than any of these....but yes the tech is really great !
for me these are fancy pricey tech things....a demo of sophistication of technology but still way too expensive for ppl like me.....
but that's ok.....great to be here to be informed of the tech... and what one can do with it