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WiredEarp wrote:
@ancjob: 'z800 exp. makes me cautious trying any OLED based units.....i guess z800 uses cheap quality OLEDs though emagin makes better OLEDs refer here : http://www.emagin.com/oled-microdisplays/ '

It sounds like you have both Headplay and Z800? What exactly has been your problem with your Z800? You mentioned you had fuzzy edges or something like that?

I ask, as I have a secondhand, repaired Z800, and it still is crisp, bright, and clear, right to the edges (well, all except the edge that now has some sort of OLED cancer). Basically, its no worse than the 23" CRT thats attached to the same PC. I really don't see how it could be much brighter or clearer without an increase in resolution.

Did you have a problem with the OLED crapping out on yours? Mines developed a black spot cancer on one side that is a little annoying, just wondering if you had a similar issue...

Also, does the headplay support any page flipping modes such as that provided by iZ3D? IE, can you still use Headplay with drivers such as IZ3D and Tridef?


z800 gamma control has 5 step brigtness control which changes brightness and contrast etc...
for to get good image i need to use TMT v5 [nividia GPU support] to enhance image further....

i will try to post screens of both z800 and headplay soon..

now regd headplay - my laptop ain't capable for 3d gaming so i never tried tz3d drivers so i use both headplay and z800 for 2d movies only infact headplay always - z800 is in box.. all the time...

somehow the image is NOT sharp as compared with that of headplay , in headplay every detail -skin tone , texture is detailed and colors are rich and wonderful ,extremely pleasant to look at - for me headplay HD-LCD for me

i think we have one challenger here which has the same screen quality and huge FOV and HDMI input - Sony HMD

refer here : http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/seri ... 78744.html

so far only headplay had the screens of this quality or higher

thought of gaming - may be after i got sony HMD


Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:04 am
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WiredEarp wrote:
Did you have a problem with the OLED crapping out on yours? Mines developed a black spot cancer on one side that is a little annoying, just wondering if you had a similar issue...

Also, does the headplay support any page flipping modes such as that provided by iZ3D? IE, can you still use Headplay with drivers such as IZ3D and Tridef?


Is the "black spot" a common fault for OLED screens? I bought a cheap emagin on Ebay recently and the left-hand display had exactly that problem:

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Thankfully the seller took it back (there was no mention of the Black Spot of Doom in the auction listing).

It's a pity, because apart from the Black Spot, I thought the picture quality was excellent.

The Headplay (at least with the Firmware update that I have) can accept pageflipped 3D over VGA. I don't have the IZ3D or Tridef drivers installed, but I can set Stereoscopic Player to "Software Pageflipping" and the Headplay will accept that.


Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:23 am
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ShawmK - well too bad the z800 of yours was faulty - mine is ok but i do not get the sharpness in image which i am addicted to - says thanks to headplay for that.....

trust me - except for new sony HMD - i do not think any HMD - including z800 can beat the screen quality of headplay

they 'd have made headplay better with SXGA screen and refined optics further - too bad they gave up

no reason to order 852x480 LCD when 800x600 with rich colors is already there unless downgrading! - that's why i did NOT order wrap model yet...i failed to convince myself !

emagin is using cheap OLEDs contrast 200:1 whereas they themselves MFG. OLED-XL with contrast up to 10000:1

as for z800 - there will be plenty on ebay once sony HMD starts to sell ....no reason to keep crappy HMDs and block money when the same can get you HD HMD [HD-OLEDs] with HDMI input[read sony]..be on the look out if you still want z800

as for headtracker - ext headtracker can be used - almost all 3d laptops have HDMI 1.4a and adding a head tracker is not an issue so sony HMD will rock anyway

z800 excels only in optics [ease of viewing without strain] being light weight and usb powered - that's it...emagin is ripping people off with a tag of usd$1799 [price of usd$500 is ok for new] - an obsolete over-priced product!


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To be honest, after seeing the shots of the Sony I am not sure I can be happy with the Wrap 1200. The quality, to me, is just sub-par. The only thing thats really good about the device is the headtracker. But I am not sure that is enough to save the device. And I really do want to like this kit, but its theres only so much I can take.

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Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:09 pm
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since cyber posted for wrap series i thought i do the same for headplay and z800 so that everyone can compare....

see attachments for headplay and z800 for display resolution @ 800x600

z800 is a little bit more clear becoz of large eye-piece without scratchguard on it...while headplay pic was difficult as the scratchguard is on the eye-piece and screen being highly reflective so getting the focus was extremely difficult...but that's the best i can do with my 12 mp digital camera..i am sure without scratchguard on the headplay eye-piece image 'd have been more vibrant.....[i have the scratchguard on permanenetly as the image otherwise looks extremely bright! - too bright for my tastes]

but notice the colors - headplay colors/contrast look cool , worldly & real [looks like a real person drinking] , skin textures is more pronounced that on z800 while z800 color looks kinda unreal colors overly-balanced and contrast having more 'white' for the buff for my tastes..

till date - i still reckon as headplay as the best HMD - a true 2D HD-LCD for me !

of course the only challenge for headplay is from Sony HMD [some Sony HMD 'in action' images posted here somewhere...which i have seen] so i will wait for sony HMD for an upgrade from headplay.......wish that headplay 'd upgraded the LCOS with SXGA resolution and refined optics further - but they gave up and a great concept of 'single' screen binocular HMD died with headplay :cry:

hope this helps...


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