S3D on Geforce8 (Update: works with >= 177.79 XP 32)
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I wasn't able to get it to work on my Sammy. 3D requires an HDMI connection, so I tried the pin mod on a converter without any luck. Just a black screen. SLI doesn't work in any form for 3D regardless of the driver type. IZ3D mentioned making SLI capable drivers but enabling the checkerboard pattern in their drivers does not seem like a high priority right now (they are spending more time on HMD and Dual Projector compatibility). This makes sense since there are more people on this board using HMD's and Dual Projectors than HDTV's, but still a shame to have the best Stereo Display on the planet and only be able to play less than a dozen games. Maybe this will change at some point with the recent Samsung/EA discussions going on. Nvidia also showed some promise at CES with their drivers pushing an HDTV display, but alas nothing has been released yet.
Give it a shot and see if you have any luck. I don't have an electrical engineering background and there are definitely folks smarter than me on this board that might be able to help.
Give it a shot and see if you have any luck. I don't have an electrical engineering background and there are definitely folks smarter than me on this board that might be able to help.
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Does anyone know what changes in the registry when you set Oblivion HDR AA Compatibility to on in nHancer? I just recently got my 8800GTX and 3d Glasses, and they work fine, except for the artifacts. However, I don't want to install nHancer since I don't install .net apps. If someone could help me get this work with the standard nVidia control panels (either the new or old one) or regedit, I would be very thankful!
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OK, so I figured it out that all the profile information is stored in the c:\windows\system\nvapps.xml file. So could someone who has 3d working on their 8800 post their copy of their file? I think I've identified the AA compatibility mode for Oblivion, since there's an aa_feature_bits line in the Oblivion preset profile (and these lines are AA compatibility modes from what I can gather), but I've tried adding that line to other profiles to no success. Is nHancer doing something else that I don't know about besides editing the nvapps.xml file?
OpenGL games all crash for me when I try to open them with 3d mode on. Has anyone else made any OpenGL games work with an 8800?
OpenGL games all crash for me when I try to open them with 3d mode on. Has anyone else made any OpenGL games work with an 8800?
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Borrowed a 9800 GTX and it doesn't work. Tried all drivers that support the 9800. Without pin, same story, it always crashes on the enable stereo test with a blue screen.
Also tried anaglyph with the iz3d driver and it works, but at 1024/768 in rfactor (when there's a lot going on and all details on) I only get 9-10fps compared to 6-7 with a 7900 gtx. 1920/1200 is K.O.
Also tried anaglyph with the iz3d driver and it works, but at 1024/768 in rfactor (when there's a lot going on and all details on) I only get 9-10fps compared to 6-7 with a 7900 gtx. 1920/1200 is K.O.
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I have a 7800 GTX 256mb and I´m thinking to buy other better, now that seem to work using this procedure. I have crt+shutterglasses and planar too (now I use planar mode, but without opengl because planar type doesn´t work with 1xx.xx combo drivers using TFT monitors. I must test this that you say to see if I can use my actual 7800 gtx with 1xx.xxx stereo drivers.
But thinking about to improve my videocard, what I buy ?:
- 8800 GTX
- 8800 GTS
- 8800 GT
- 8800 Ultra
Are all the same in terms of compatibility with this "tweak"?. Would be a good idea to buy a 9xxx videocard, or it´s totally incompatible?.
But thinking about to improve my videocard, what I buy ?:
- 8800 GTX
- 8800 GTS
- 8800 GT
- 8800 Ultra
Are all the same in terms of compatibility with this "tweak"?. Would be a good idea to buy a 9xxx videocard, or it´s totally incompatible?.
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Is there a reason removing the detect pin from DVI wouldn't work? I would need to use non-scaled modes and that requires DVI.
Now I need to find an 8800GTS 320mb, or rather, figure out how to pay for one
. ($150 wouldn't be trouble, and they are available at that price, but I just spent $200 on a new mobo/cpu hs/fan)
Now I need to find an 8800GTS 320mb, or rather, figure out how to pay for one

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Re: S3D on Geforce8 (manual complete now)
I've something to say about this, in my setup, 8800GTX FW 171.xx and 162.50stereo, under WinXP, i've just changed the monitor driver to "standard monitor" (no PnP monitor nor SONY CPD... which is mine), set stereo resolutions and everyhing works fine!VadersApp wrote: 5. VERY IMPORTANT: The display mustn´t be recognized by the driver! To achieve this i put my revelator adapter between the port of the 8800gtx and the monitorcable OR remove Pin:
-\--- O O O O O---/
--\- O O O O O---/
---\- O O O O X-/
(turned it away with a screwdriver at my VGA cable, so i can bring it back in position if nescessary)
I get perfect oblivion (after nhancer tweaking of course) and UT3 with no artifacts and good depth; i also get Crysis with good depth no-artifaqcts (but it dynamically chages convergence on his will...) and i'm trying to get rid of "quadratic artifact" with Tomb Raider: Legend;
any hint is welcome!!
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A few hours ago I swapped my 8800gt with the 8800GTS (G80 / 320MB) from my mom's comp. Followed entire guide, and I still can't get it to work. On the medicinal test i get 2 images, everywhere else stereo just won't kick in...
edit: oh and btw, i fully cleaned my drivers before installing the ones in the guide
edit: oh and btw, i fully cleaned my drivers before installing the ones in the guide
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Hi everyone,
I'm new to Stereo3D. I had a ATI Card and the eDimesionnal Shutter glasses wich worked but the performance was pretty bad. So I went and bought a nVidia GF 8800 GT because I had read about nVidia'S native support of S3D. That was before I tried it and it did not work. Now I stumble on to this thread and I am thinking that *maybe* there is hope.
I did all the steps enumerated and all seems fine until I try to launch either the Test Application, the Medical Test Image or the Stereo Viewer. I only get a black screen and after some time, windows xp pops up a message that says that my drivers has stopped working normally and I am left with the lowest of the lowest of resolutions... the only thing I can do then to return to normal is reboot.
I have a Intel Core 2 Duo at 3ghz, a GF 8800 GT (it actually says on the box: EN8800 GT.... ?) with 1gig of vRam. has anyone been able to get results with a 8800GT ? I've seen one post in this thread where the guy wants to use it to play rFactor... same thing for me.... Have you made it work yet ?
Thanks for all your help... and for shinning a dim light of hope for me !
Dave
I'm new to Stereo3D. I had a ATI Card and the eDimesionnal Shutter glasses wich worked but the performance was pretty bad. So I went and bought a nVidia GF 8800 GT because I had read about nVidia'S native support of S3D. That was before I tried it and it did not work. Now I stumble on to this thread and I am thinking that *maybe* there is hope.
I did all the steps enumerated and all seems fine until I try to launch either the Test Application, the Medical Test Image or the Stereo Viewer. I only get a black screen and after some time, windows xp pops up a message that says that my drivers has stopped working normally and I am left with the lowest of the lowest of resolutions... the only thing I can do then to return to normal is reboot.
I have a Intel Core 2 Duo at 3ghz, a GF 8800 GT (it actually says on the box: EN8800 GT.... ?) with 1gig of vRam. has anyone been able to get results with a 8800GT ? I've seen one post in this thread where the guy wants to use it to play rFactor... same thing for me.... Have you made it work yet ?
Thanks for all your help... and for shinning a dim light of hope for me !
Dave
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Just removed my secondary card (the 7900gt which is kind of broken, hence me trying to get stereo to work on 8800gts) and now it does work. Also before I did this stereo was working on the 7900gt, so it seems that somehow the stereo drivers pick one card to work on, and don't work on the rest, regardless of which display is set as primary...Xerion wrote:A few hours ago I swapped my 8800gt with the 8800GTS (G80 / 320MB) from my mom's comp. Followed entire guide, and I still can't get it to work. On the medicinal test i get 2 images, everywhere else stereo just won't kick in...
edit: oh and btw, i fully cleaned my drivers before installing the ones in the guide
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It doens't work with the 8800GT, no g92 cards work.
F1Dave wrote:Hi everyone,
I'm new to Stereo3D. I had a ATI Card and the eDimesionnal Shutter glasses wich worked but the performance was pretty bad. So I went and bought a nVidia GF 8800 GT because I had read about nVidia'S native support of S3D. That was before I tried it and it did not work. Now I stumble on to this thread and I am thinking that *maybe* there is hope.
I did all the steps enumerated and all seems fine until I try to launch either the Test Application, the Medical Test Image or the Stereo Viewer. I only get a black screen and after some time, windows xp pops up a message that says that my drivers has stopped working normally and I am left with the lowest of the lowest of resolutions... the only thing I can do then to return to normal is reboot.
I have a Intel Core 2 Duo at 3ghz, a GF 8800 GT (it actually says on the box: EN8800 GT.... ?) with 1gig of vRam. has anyone been able to get results with a 8800GT ? I've seen one post in this thread where the guy wants to use it to play rFactor... same thing for me.... Have you made it work yet ?
Thanks for all your help... and for shinning a dim light of hope for me !
Dave
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FFS, now suddenly the driver won't turn on the shutter glasses anymore when stereo is enabled, although i can turn them on with the ED activator.
EDIT: Also there is lots of artefacts in both guildwars and oblivion, no matter what settings I try
EDIT: Also there is lots of artefacts in both guildwars and oblivion, no matter what settings I try
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8600m gt review
got a new laptop (with an 8600m gt = G84) a few days ago and gave it a try (with edim.-glasses and CRT Mon.) but unfort. with no succes until now. (OS: WinXP!)
What I tried: 1.) FW162,50 (laptopvideo2go) and 162,50 stereo - my external crt monitor was recognized and everything worked fine until I started the test (or any directx-appl.) result: black screen
2.) 167,23?! and 162,50stereo - result: black screen
3.)171,23 beta (with self-modded inf) and 162,50stereo but also with the same result.
I forgot to mention that I disabled 1 core of my C2D (with bruteforce)
The drivers were working like charm but as soon as I enabled stereo and started a directx-appl. I got a black screen (nv4 disp error...)
Is G84 a no go?
I don't want to believe it!!!
@VadersApp: Did you try your 8400m gt (G86) with XP?
What I tried: 1.) FW162,50 (laptopvideo2go) and 162,50 stereo - my external crt monitor was recognized and everything worked fine until I started the test (or any directx-appl.) result: black screen
2.) 167,23?! and 162,50stereo - result: black screen
3.)171,23 beta (with self-modded inf) and 162,50stereo but also with the same result.
I forgot to mention that I disabled 1 core of my C2D (with bruteforce)
The drivers were working like charm but as soon as I enabled stereo and started a directx-appl. I got a black screen (nv4 disp error...)
Is G84 a no go?
I don't want to believe it!!!
@VadersApp: Did you try your 8400m gt (G86) with XP?
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In my dispair over nVidia and their new S3D "support", I unplugged my Revelator cable for the first time in 9 years and stopped looking at the S3D boards regularly. Now it looks like I have two options that may work with my 8800GTS 640 and my beloved Sony 24" crt.
1) Try the 171.xx + 162.50 combo. -this may require changing driver settings to default PnP monitor, which I assume would kill all my custom refresh rate settings and color profiles.
2) Get Vista and dual boot (I am not ready to give up XP yet), using the new Vista S3D drivers. -as I understand it this only works with analgraph so I would need to pick up some glasses also.
Am I missing anything important?
Which setup would be preferable? My priority ease of use and quality of the 3D experience rather than cost. I am not interested in hours of tweaking to get each game set up as has been the case in the past.
Will Vista 64 work with option 2?
Lastly, has nVidia noticed that this thread has over 8000 views already?
1) Try the 171.xx + 162.50 combo. -this may require changing driver settings to default PnP monitor, which I assume would kill all my custom refresh rate settings and color profiles.
2) Get Vista and dual boot (I am not ready to give up XP yet), using the new Vista S3D drivers. -as I understand it this only works with analgraph so I would need to pick up some glasses also.
Am I missing anything important?
Which setup would be preferable? My priority ease of use and quality of the 3D experience rather than cost. I am not interested in hours of tweaking to get each game set up as has been the case in the past.
Will Vista 64 work with option 2?
Lastly, has nVidia noticed that this thread has over 8000 views already?
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Since it doesn't work with v-sync off, A quick note about it.
I have a crt and an lcd connected to a 8800gtx. Stereo works (a lot of trouble but it works). Anyway, I noticed that fps was always 60fps (and 30 with stereo on) no matter what refresh rate the crt was set to (120 or 150HZ with the crt set as the primary monitor). Without v-sync it would be 250fps, so with v-sync it should have been 120 or 150 fps (60 or 75 with stereo on assuming the card can do it).
After setting the multiple displays to "single" (the crt only) and not to 2 monitors with the crt as the primary one, the v-sync worked right. For some reason it always used the lcd refresh rate (60hz) even though it wasn't even on.
V-syn will also drop your fps to half if the card can't output your crt refresh rate, so 120HZ will output 60fps if the card renders 99fps. You should try to enable triple buffering in the games to get around this. If the game doesn't support that, try dxtweaker and set "Modules To Load" -> Present Changer -> Count 2.
However some games might not work with that on, rfactor, gtr etc work fine.
I have a crt and an lcd connected to a 8800gtx. Stereo works (a lot of trouble but it works). Anyway, I noticed that fps was always 60fps (and 30 with stereo on) no matter what refresh rate the crt was set to (120 or 150HZ with the crt set as the primary monitor). Without v-sync it would be 250fps, so with v-sync it should have been 120 or 150 fps (60 or 75 with stereo on assuming the card can do it).
After setting the multiple displays to "single" (the crt only) and not to 2 monitors with the crt as the primary one, the v-sync worked right. For some reason it always used the lcd refresh rate (60hz) even though it wasn't even on.
V-syn will also drop your fps to half if the card can't output your crt refresh rate, so 120HZ will output 60fps if the card renders 99fps. You should try to enable triple buffering in the games to get around this. If the game doesn't support that, try dxtweaker and set "Modules To Load" -> Present Changer -> Count 2.
However some games might not work with that on, rfactor, gtr etc work fine.
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compared with a 7800 GTX, what is the differences?.... is there the same compatibility and support, or there are big differences?.... what about artifacts that somebody said?. I´m thinking to buy a Nvidia 8800 Ultra, but I need to be sure what I buy, and if I will have surprises.
Anybody have tried "Planar" type?... I have shutterglasses+crt and planar (with two tfts), and usually I play in planar.
Anybody have tried "Planar" type?... I have shutterglasses+crt and planar (with two tfts), and usually I play in planar.
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I also have a 7900GTX and there is a difference. Everything I run with the 8800 (all the racing games that is) are maxed out at 1280/1024 and it almost never drops below 30fps, only at the race start when you look at 50 cars ahead of you it goes down to 15-20 but back up once you get going. With the 7900 I could not run 1280/1024 (well it worked but not very good) and 1024/768 was on medium settings or it would be btw 20-30 most of the time. 1024/768 with the 8800 is almost always above 60fps, again 15-20 at the start with many cars ahead (lots of shadows etc).b4thman wrote:compared with a 7800 GTX, what is the differences?.... is there the same compatibility and support, or there are big differences?.... what about artifacts that somebody said?. I´m thinking to buy a Nvidia 8800 Ultra, but I need to be sure what I buy, and if I will have surprises.
Anybody have tried "Planar" type?... I have shutterglasses+crt and planar (with two tfts), and usually I play in planar.
There are no artifacts and it looks normal to me if you set aa to oblivion compatibility and supersampling on. Once in a while there's some weird flashing when the game loads or when viewing the replay, but not when playing.
I think Vader said in the first post that planar works.
The one thing that sucks is that if something crashes and you need to press the power button to rest, the nvidia control panel doesn't work anymore after the reboot and you need to reinstall the drivers. At least for me it doesn't, probably had to reinstall them 20 times when testing stuff out. but once you know what works it's fine.
As for the 8800ultra, it's around $500, the gtx is around $280 and you can clock it to ultra speeds just fine.
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I will know more next week when my 8800GTS 320MB gets here, I am currently on 171.23 forceware/162.50 stereo with a 7900GS and a planar setup. (side note, that 8800 was $108 total, including shipping.) My 7900GS should be about as fast as your 7800 because it has the same amount of pixel and vertex shaders, although my card is clocked at 650mhzb4thman wrote:compared with a 7800 GTX, what is the differences?.... is there the same compatibility and support, or there are big differences?.... what about artifacts that somebody said?. I´m thinking to buy a Nvidia 8800 Ultra, but I need to be sure what I buy, and if I will have surprises.
Anybody have tried "Planar" type?... I have shutterglasses+crt and planar (with two tfts), and usually I play in planar.

Like The_Doctor said the Ultra is not a noticeable amount faster than the highest overclocked GTX, just more expensive (because it IS an overclocked GTX

8800GTX on ebay
8800Ultra on eBay
So in bang for the buck it doesn't make a lot of sense, if you wanted to get even more technical, an 8800GTS 640mb is only $185, will that $90 gain you 50% more performance? I somehow doubt it, although it might (what resolution is your Planar rig?).
8800GTS 640MB on eBay
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SOLVED: ELSA Revelator Goggles irregular flicker...
Hi all,
Has anyone out there managed to get their ELSA Revelator (IR wireless) shutter glasses working with this method???
By following VadersApp's guide, I've had limited success in that I can get my system to show me a left/right seperated display on the medical test and test application, however, once the tests start, my Revelator shutter glasses appear to start flickering at random... Occasionally they seem to sync with the display for a couple of seconds and I get a glimpse of glorious stereo, but soon drift out and start flickering at random again....
I notice from some fairly old threads on other forums, this seems to be a common problem, which seems to be related to an IRQ conflicts with the graphics card. However, I've checked in device manager, and my graphics card appears to have an IRQ of its own...
I've checked the batteries in the glasses, and they've fine, so it does seem to be a problem with the transmission of shutter commands
EDIT 19-Apr-2008: IT WAS THE BATTERIES ALL ALONG!!! See my post Below vvv
Any other suggestions?
Would desperately love to get stereo working on my 8800GTX
Cheers,
Graysters
Has anyone out there managed to get their ELSA Revelator (IR wireless) shutter glasses working with this method???
By following VadersApp's guide, I've had limited success in that I can get my system to show me a left/right seperated display on the medical test and test application, however, once the tests start, my Revelator shutter glasses appear to start flickering at random... Occasionally they seem to sync with the display for a couple of seconds and I get a glimpse of glorious stereo, but soon drift out and start flickering at random again....

I notice from some fairly old threads on other forums, this seems to be a common problem, which seems to be related to an IRQ conflicts with the graphics card. However, I've checked in device manager, and my graphics card appears to have an IRQ of its own...
I've checked the batteries in the glasses, and they've fine, so it does seem to be a problem with the transmission of shutter commands

EDIT 19-Apr-2008: IT WAS THE BATTERIES ALL ALONG!!! See my post Below vvv
Any other suggestions?
Would desperately love to get stereo working on my 8800GTX
Cheers,
Graysters
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I have found an Asus 8800 ultra at 250€, and probably I´ll buy it tomorrow. It is only a few more expensive (not a lot) than a GTX, and seem to have better cooling and I suppose the same but something better quality components (Vram and gpu). Playing in stereo all aditional frames per second are wellcome, and it is sure that I will need more power in some games.
I´m playing in a planar system made with two viewsonic 17" widescreeen tft monitors, and usually I play in 1440x900 (native resolution) if the game doensn´t eat a lot of power. I´m using 162.50 combo drivers and I can play most D3D games perfectly, but opengl games doesn´t work with planar (using crt I can play perfectly doom3, IL2, or any opengl game... but I prefer planar and not to play these games).
I have installed the driver in this forum (only for test), and it is perfectly possible to select planar type if I use a vga switch before the 1st tft monitor, but is not better than 162.50 combo (using 7800 gtx), and the same problem with opengl games with planar. But good thing to know that it is posible to activate the stereo types so easy.
I´m playing in a planar system made with two viewsonic 17" widescreeen tft monitors, and usually I play in 1440x900 (native resolution) if the game doensn´t eat a lot of power. I´m using 162.50 combo drivers and I can play most D3D games perfectly, but opengl games doesn´t work with planar (using crt I can play perfectly doom3, IL2, or any opengl game... but I prefer planar and not to play these games).
I have installed the driver in this forum (only for test), and it is perfectly possible to select planar type if I use a vga switch before the 1st tft monitor, but is not better than 162.50 combo (using 7800 gtx), and the same problem with opengl games with planar. But good thing to know that it is posible to activate the stereo types so easy.
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Be prepared for weird stuff to happen though, sometimes the nvidia control panel stops working, sometimes colors look weird, sometimes stuff just crashes and so on. If you can put up with that, it worksb4thman wrote:I have found an Asus 8800 ultra at 250€, and probably I´ll buy it tomorrow. It is only a few more expensive (not a lot) than a GTX, and seem to have better cooling and I suppose the same but something better quality components (Vram and gpu). Playing in stereo all aditional frames per second are wellcome, and it is sure that I will need more power in some games.
I´m playing in a planar system made with two viewsonic 17" widescreeen tft monitors, and usually I play in 1440x900 (native resolution) if the game doensn´t eat a lot of power. I´m using 162.50 combo drivers and I can play most D3D games perfectly, but opengl games doesn´t work with planar (using crt I can play perfectly doom3, IL2, or any opengl game... but I prefer planar and not to play these games).
I have installed the driver in this forum (only for test), and it is perfectly possible to select planar type if I use a vga switch before the 1st tft monitor, but is not better than 162.50 combo (using 7800 gtx), and the same problem with opengl games with planar. But good thing to know that it is posible to activate the stereo types so easy.

250E is ok I guess.
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ELSA Revelator Glasses working!

Managed to get my Revelator glasses working in with my 8800GTX in XP (32bit)!
It was the batteries all along!

although the two CR2032 batteries in the glasses were measuring just over the rated 3v each, I guess this was dropping just enough when under load that it caused the glasses to behave erraticlly. Once I'd replaced them with a fresh pair, they worked perfectly!
Thanks VadersApp for the great guide, and indeed the rest of the MTBS3D community for helping me see in glorious stereo again after all these years!
Well Chuffed!

Graysters
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Awesome guide!
But I feel like an idiot because I just bought a pair of top-quality anaglyph red/cyan glasses for my 8800GTX (my other computer, not the one with 2 7900GTX's). Then I read the guide again and it said that it does not work with anaglyph glasses.
I tried it myself (without changing the monitor to undetected), and the screen would flash very rapidly, like flickering for a minute with Nvidia stereo3d test application before going BSOD (first time I've seen a BSOD in like 1 year!). Interestingly, the only option available was anaglyph glasses--it did not have a drop-down menu for other modes like DDC shutterglasses.
Now, I'm a bit pissed with those glasses lying around on my desk ($20 waste). So, are you guys absolutely sure there's no way to make it work with anaglyph on a LCD monitor in WinXP-32 with an 8800GTX? Any driver combinations at all? Or, do I have to make the ultimate sacrifice for the horrendous Vista upgrade?
But I feel like an idiot because I just bought a pair of top-quality anaglyph red/cyan glasses for my 8800GTX (my other computer, not the one with 2 7900GTX's). Then I read the guide again and it said that it does not work with anaglyph glasses.
I tried it myself (without changing the monitor to undetected), and the screen would flash very rapidly, like flickering for a minute with Nvidia stereo3d test application before going BSOD (first time I've seen a BSOD in like 1 year!). Interestingly, the only option available was anaglyph glasses--it did not have a drop-down menu for other modes like DDC shutterglasses.
Now, I'm a bit pissed with those glasses lying around on my desk ($20 waste). So, are you guys absolutely sure there's no way to make it work with anaglyph on a LCD monitor in WinXP-32 with an 8800GTX? Any driver combinations at all? Or, do I have to make the ultimate sacrifice for the horrendous Vista upgrade?
8800GTX, 24" CRT (Sony GDM-FW900)
i7 920 @ 3.7GHz, Foxconn Bloodrage, WinXP-32 and Vista x64 SP2
3D shutters, 181.00 Forceware +162.50 S3D for WinXP
Other rig: 4870 1GB, i7 920 @ 4GHz, DFI T3eH8
24" LCD + IZ3D anaglyph, WinXP-32 and Win7 x64
i7 920 @ 3.7GHz, Foxconn Bloodrage, WinXP-32 and Vista x64 SP2
3D shutters, 181.00 Forceware +162.50 S3D for WinXP
Other rig: 4870 1GB, i7 920 @ 4GHz, DFI T3eH8
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You can use the iz3d driver for anaglyph in win xp.Bo_Fox wrote:Awesome guide!
But I feel like an idiot because I just bought a pair of top-quality anaglyph red/cyan glasses for my 8800GTX (my other computer, not the one with 2 7900GTX's). Then I read the guide again and it said that it does not work with anaglyph glasses.
I tried it myself (without changing the monitor to undetected), and the screen would flash very rapidly, like flickering for a minute with Nvidia stereo3d test application before going BSOD (first time I've seen a BSOD in like 1 year!). Interestingly, the only option available was anaglyph glasses--it did not have a drop-down menu for other modes like DDC shutterglasses.
Now, I'm a bit pissed with those glasses lying around on my desk ($20 waste). So, are you guys absolutely sure there's no way to make it work with anaglyph on a LCD monitor in WinXP-32 with an 8800GTX? Any driver combinations at all? Or, do I have to make the ultimate sacrifice for the horrendous Vista upgrade?
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Well, I just tried the 171.23b + 162.50 combo in XP32 and it went surprisingly well. Hellgate London works almost perfectly with no real tweaking yet. A few things in the UI are at the wrong depth and there are some blocking artifacts, particularly with the held weapon. Overall it is about as good a 3D effect as I have seen save for some of the driving games. Some notes:
1) I did not need to worry about monitor detection. At first I tried like hell to remove any traces of my Sony CRT profile. For some reason, even after removing it in device manager and installing "default monitor" drivers, the nVidia control panel still listed the Sony when I tried to reinstall my custom refresh rates for stereo. So, it would not let me add custom refresh rates. I gave up and re-installed the Sony drivers and refresh rates, went into the stereo properties for the first time and everything worked fine. I use the Revelator cable, but I doubt that makes a difference. It could be something with TFT monitors.
2) For me, the registry settings for the old control panel are in the ...\NvCplApi\Policies area rather than the ...\Stereo3D area.
3) nHancer was needed for artifacts. I hoped to avoid installing another app. When I launched the nVidia 3D test application, there were quite a few artifacts. I installed nHancer and simply ticked the Oblivion (AA/HDR) compatability mode on the global pane. Now the nVidia test application looks perfect. I may be able to reduce artifacts in Hellgate with other nHancer settings.
4) Stereo takes a smaller hit on FR than I remember. With a 8800GTS 640mb card, I got 20-40 fps in the Stonehenge area of Hellgate @ 1600 x 1000 x 110Hz with 8xCSAA, and supersampled transparency AA. Quite playable at those settings and not much different than without 3D. In game settings are maxed except shadows are on medium. I expected to have to go down to 1280 x 800 or tone down the AA.
Overall a surprisingly painless process, without a single blue screen or lock. Highly recommended to 3D fans with CRTs.
1) I did not need to worry about monitor detection. At first I tried like hell to remove any traces of my Sony CRT profile. For some reason, even after removing it in device manager and installing "default monitor" drivers, the nVidia control panel still listed the Sony when I tried to reinstall my custom refresh rates for stereo. So, it would not let me add custom refresh rates. I gave up and re-installed the Sony drivers and refresh rates, went into the stereo properties for the first time and everything worked fine. I use the Revelator cable, but I doubt that makes a difference. It could be something with TFT monitors.
2) For me, the registry settings for the old control panel are in the ...\NvCplApi\Policies area rather than the ...\Stereo3D area.
3) nHancer was needed for artifacts. I hoped to avoid installing another app. When I launched the nVidia 3D test application, there were quite a few artifacts. I installed nHancer and simply ticked the Oblivion (AA/HDR) compatability mode on the global pane. Now the nVidia test application looks perfect. I may be able to reduce artifacts in Hellgate with other nHancer settings.
4) Stereo takes a smaller hit on FR than I remember. With a 8800GTS 640mb card, I got 20-40 fps in the Stonehenge area of Hellgate @ 1600 x 1000 x 110Hz with 8xCSAA, and supersampled transparency AA. Quite playable at those settings and not much different than without 3D. In game settings are maxed except shadows are on medium. I expected to have to go down to 1280 x 800 or tone down the AA.
Overall a surprisingly painless process, without a single blue screen or lock. Highly recommended to 3D fans with CRTs.
MB - ASUS P5WDH Deluxe
CPU - E6600
RAM - 4GB
GPU - BFG GTX 280
Goggles - ELSA Revelator circa 1999
nVidia 3D Vision circa 2009
CPU - E6600
RAM - 4GB
GPU - BFG GTX 280
Goggles - ELSA Revelator circa 1999
nVidia 3D Vision circa 2009
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I recently downloaded the new stereo drivers for windows vista (174.76). I noticed that in regedit you can make all the changes you can with the older stereo driver (162.50). It almost looks like all the same functionality as the old driver is in the new. I made the changes but did not get any other option than analglyph but this may also be the result of not removing the vga pin to prevent detection of my projector. I am going to try removing the pin on an adapter tomorrow and see if it makes a difference. The newer vista drivers if they contain the shutterglass option may be more stable for the 8800 series and possibly others. Anyone interested in joining in on this adaptation for Vista please post your insight.
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Are you sure you can make all the changes like older stereo drivers??? I've tried (also with standard monitor driver for my screen) but i get only anaglyph!, indeed i've to try with 174.76 (I've only tried 174.75)
I've also tried 174.75 anaglyph mode!! they're perfect, they work with every game, also crysis, with full adjustable stereo, and screenshot feature working well!;
I want this adaptation on vista, for my shutterglasses!!!
I've also tried 174.75 anaglyph mode!! they're perfect, they work with every game, also crysis, with full adjustable stereo, and screenshot feature working well!;
I want this adaptation on vista, for my shutterglasses!!!
Nvidia 8800GTX 173.68FW + 162.50 Stereo
Windows XP-32
Edimensional wired shutterglasses
SONY CPDE220 17"
Windows XP-32
Edimensional wired shutterglasses
SONY CPDE220 17"
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A friend of mine looked into it and it looks like the shutterlasses part probably doesn't even exist in the drivers (so that people should not be able to enable it in any way).ngsmith wrote:I recently downloaded the new stereo drivers for windows vista (174.76). I noticed that in regedit you can make all the changes you can with the older stereo driver (162.50). It almost looks like all the same functionality as the old driver is in the new. I made the changes but did not get any other option than analglyph but this may also be the result of not removing the vga pin to prevent detection of my projector. I am going to try removing the pin on an adapter tomorrow and see if it makes a difference. The newer vista drivers if they contain the shutterglass option may be more stable for the 8800 series and possibly others. Anyone interested in joining in on this adaptation for Vista please post your insight.
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I tried disabling the vga pin today but it had no luck. In answer to Venge's question all the registry information is the same for this driver as the earlier, which leads me to think that this driver like the earlier can support other s3d options but it is just disabled in the gui control panel as the earlier version.
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I've added old driver stereo settings to my registry under vista 64 with new 174.76 stereo driver, especially "showallviewertypes" to one, but i can't see other options than anaglyph, it should be like you said, they've disabled 'em in the GUI, but, is there a way to registry-force my driver to use DDC vga mode?? or dual VGA mode??.
Thanks again! hoping nvidia will add glasses support with new stereo drivers......
Thanks again! hoping nvidia will add glasses support with new stereo drivers......
Nvidia 8800GTX 173.68FW + 162.50 Stereo
Windows XP-32
Edimensional wired shutterglasses
SONY CPDE220 17"
Windows XP-32
Edimensional wired shutterglasses
SONY CPDE220 17"
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Hi Venge,
I discovered yesterday that you can manually set the registry to the view type that you want. I discovered this by examining the registry every time I changed my stereo option using the old stereo driver in XP. In the same place in the registry you will see stereoviewertype set to 0x80000001 if you modify it to hexidecimal 1 so it reads 0x00000001 (1) that is the setting in the old stereo driver for the DDG Shutterglasses. (Each stereo option can be changed by just changing it to the next higher number in hexidecimals). I discovered that if you reopen the control panel it will set it back to the analglyph (0x80000001)-This works on the old stereo driver too if you are not using an analog connection. What I have not tested yet is whether if you enable stereo with anaglyph and make sure it is all setup and then exit the control panel and change the registry to 0x00000001 and run a game whether it will revert back to the anaglyph or use the Shutterglass option.
I discovered yesterday that you can manually set the registry to the view type that you want. I discovered this by examining the registry every time I changed my stereo option using the old stereo driver in XP. In the same place in the registry you will see stereoviewertype set to 0x80000001 if you modify it to hexidecimal 1 so it reads 0x00000001 (1) that is the setting in the old stereo driver for the DDG Shutterglasses. (Each stereo option can be changed by just changing it to the next higher number in hexidecimals). I discovered that if you reopen the control panel it will set it back to the analglyph (0x80000001)-This works on the old stereo driver too if you are not using an analog connection. What I have not tested yet is whether if you enable stereo with anaglyph and make sure it is all setup and then exit the control panel and change the registry to 0x00000001 and run a game whether it will revert back to the anaglyph or use the Shutterglass option.
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Questions over removing pin or not (For older stereo driver and forceware on XP only). I noticed that in the topics people are not sure whether they need to remove the bottom right pin of their vga cable. After a little testing it is clear that you do if you do not have a revelator controller. The revelator controler is missing the bottom right pin which makes whatever crt or projector you plug into seen as analog non-pnp. If you are using any other controller you will need to disable the pin. A simple test to prove this is to plug your crt or projector directly into your video card with the pin in place. The only option you will be given is anaglyph. Now bend the pin out of the way and repeat the process (You may need to restart your computer) (I recommend using a cheap converter or old vga cable if you are worried about damaging the pin). When restarted you should now have all the options available.
As a side note (untested). You can manually change your viewertype in regedit to what you want. I am curious whether manually changing will allow you to avoid the hardware protection of your crt/projector not requiring the use of the pin removal. This will have to be done after the stereo driver is enabled because the control panel will change the registry back to anaglyph.
As a side note (untested). You can manually change your viewertype in regedit to what you want. I am curious whether manually changing will allow you to avoid the hardware protection of your crt/projector not requiring the use of the pin removal. This will have to be done after the stereo driver is enabled because the control panel will change the registry back to anaglyph.
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Hi all,
here's my result after trying to force stereo modes via registry:
- In vista 64, with 174.74FW and 174.75 (or .76) Stereo driver, i've tried to change stereoviewertype to 1 but it resulte completely useless, it doesn't care of what you specify into registry under LOCALMACHINE/SOFTWARE/NVIDIA CORP./Global/Stereo3D (I've also had to MANUALLY ADD this key!! because driver install doesn't create it!!), everything i'm trying to write there (show all viewer types, or stereo view type, etc...) is completely ignored by the stereo driver; i guess stereo settings should be specified from another location, at last for vista 64 (but i think it'll be te same with vista 32); stereo driver works perfectly but just in anaglyph mode....
- under winXP i've got my 8800gtx working well with many games, and for me it's not necessary to remove the pin, it's enough to configure the monitor as a "standard monitor" or "plug & play monitor" and my EDim shutterglasses works perfectly... what doesn't work well is stereo separation for games like crysis or UT3 (i mean distant separation almost the same as close one.. even trying to exxagerrate convergence, giving you an almos null 3d effect and impossibility to get a popout effect)
That's what i've got after many days of trying, with many driver combos and O/Ss.... they HAVE TO include support with their f..k..g driver to have a great experience.
byez
here's my result after trying to force stereo modes via registry:
- In vista 64, with 174.74FW and 174.75 (or .76) Stereo driver, i've tried to change stereoviewertype to 1 but it resulte completely useless, it doesn't care of what you specify into registry under LOCALMACHINE/SOFTWARE/NVIDIA CORP./Global/Stereo3D (I've also had to MANUALLY ADD this key!! because driver install doesn't create it!!), everything i'm trying to write there (show all viewer types, or stereo view type, etc...) is completely ignored by the stereo driver; i guess stereo settings should be specified from another location, at last for vista 64 (but i think it'll be te same with vista 32); stereo driver works perfectly but just in anaglyph mode....
- under winXP i've got my 8800gtx working well with many games, and for me it's not necessary to remove the pin, it's enough to configure the monitor as a "standard monitor" or "plug & play monitor" and my EDim shutterglasses works perfectly... what doesn't work well is stereo separation for games like crysis or UT3 (i mean distant separation almost the same as close one.. even trying to exxagerrate convergence, giving you an almos null 3d effect and impossibility to get a popout effect)
That's what i've got after many days of trying, with many driver combos and O/Ss.... they HAVE TO include support with their f..k..g driver to have a great experience.
byez
Nvidia 8800GTX 173.68FW + 162.50 Stereo
Windows XP-32
Edimensional wired shutterglasses
SONY CPDE220 17"
Windows XP-32
Edimensional wired shutterglasses
SONY CPDE220 17"