MSI Stereo2-Glasses Shutters XP or Vista / 3D Vision?
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 6:34 pm
Hey all,
first post.
I bought MSI Stereo2-Glasses Shutter glasses back in January 2006,
my first expedition into the wonderful world of stereoscopic 3D.
Here is a link I got from my seller,
http://www.xvr3.com/msi/
Reading up on CRT's I purchased a NEC Multisync FE1250 22" CRT monitor as well ($90).
I experimented with the setup for a few days but then I got really busy with college.
One day I turned the Monitor on and it was all green. The seller was kind enough to send me another monitor,
which was working fine for awhile, till I started to get pink bands, and eventually stopped turning on.
I believe I disposed of those two huge heavy monitors. My Geforce FX5200 at some point stopped working too.
I blamed the MSI daughter board and removed it, re-boxed the entire MSI shutterglasses kit thinking that it might have broke my graphics card/monitor.
Years pass by, I graduated May last year, and not so busy right now.
Recently I have been mesmerized by the release of 120hz LCD's and Nvidia's 3D vision kit,
but really can't seem to justify such an expensive upgrade.
($720 in my case since I would need to purchase a Core2Duo)
Anxious, I recently ordered a Dell P1230 22" CRT hoping to relive those few awesome moments of 3D I experienced 3.5 years ago ($130).
Unpacking my MSI Shutterglasses kit, I initially installed the daughter board on my 2nd PC tower:
MSI Geforce 9600GT (PCI express x16)
Dual boot Windows Xp and Vista (x86)
On Vista, I installed Nvidia Forceware drivers 182.08 and 182.08 Stereoscopic Drivers from the nvidia page.
I was not able to enable stereo from the GUI, and I noticed it only considered me being able to use Anaglyph.
Is there something I can change in my registry to enable shutterglasses detection?
I tried using the CD that came with the MSI glasses, but all the drivers are for Xp and under.
I didn't even attempt booting Xp on that PC knowing that of all of the Xp Stereoscopic Nvidia releases,
the matching Forceware releases would not even recognize a 9600GT.
So kinda disappointed, I installed the MSI Daughterboard onto my 1st PC tower:
BFG Geforce 7800GS (AGP 8x)
Windows Xp (x86)
I am currently using Forceware 163.71 + 162.50 Stereo drivers, suggested on this page:
http://www.3d.wep.dk/driverguide.html
It works of course, as I tested it on my old 15" CRT at 85hz.
So my P1230 22" arrived yesterday and have been tweaking the 3D settings with it since.
I have been playing most games at 1024x768 @ 120hz (capable of doing it at 140hz).
In Left4Dead, I find that I use a very low separation and increase the convergence to the point where all of the ammo/health slides away,
revealing a good stereoscopic effect (it's always hard to focus the gun however).
I play Quake 3 Arena similarly, but choose to use cg_drawgun 0, so I can increase convergence to the point I can see the floor coming out of the screen.
Need for Speed Underground plays well too, given that I get rid of the entire HUD.
I notice that 91.31 + 91.31 drivers let you use Ctrl + F9, Ctrl + F10 to adjust Screen Depth, and Alt for Backplane,
but oddly those Hot Key's don't work in any game I have tried.
Sadly, I also believe that I am experiencing some ghosting with this CRT (true for all CRT's?).
Maybe I am nitpicking, but I really do miss knowing how much health I have in Left4Dead, and being able to see my gun in Quake 3 Arena.
It makes me wonder whether the new Nvidia 3d Vision kit has much much better driver support, less ghosting, and compatible games.
At the same time, I'm considering whether these MSI shutter glasses are just as competent as Nvidia's knowing that it operates as 120hz as well.
(I tried 140hz too, looked pretty good).
I can't seem to justify another $200 on Nvidia's 3D vision glasses unless I am sure the games actually play better, with less ghosting.
If I were to buy them, they would obviously work with the 9600GT on Vista on my 2nd PC tower, but would I really notice a significant difference?
I imagine my scenario is similar to many previous stereoscopic gamers.
I really can't seem to assess how much better this 3D vision kit is for CRT gaming.
I apologize for this super long post & appreciate any advice.
all the best,
take care. - tidel.
first post.
I bought MSI Stereo2-Glasses Shutter glasses back in January 2006,
my first expedition into the wonderful world of stereoscopic 3D.
Here is a link I got from my seller,
http://www.xvr3.com/msi/
Reading up on CRT's I purchased a NEC Multisync FE1250 22" CRT monitor as well ($90).
I experimented with the setup for a few days but then I got really busy with college.
One day I turned the Monitor on and it was all green. The seller was kind enough to send me another monitor,
which was working fine for awhile, till I started to get pink bands, and eventually stopped turning on.
I believe I disposed of those two huge heavy monitors. My Geforce FX5200 at some point stopped working too.
I blamed the MSI daughter board and removed it, re-boxed the entire MSI shutterglasses kit thinking that it might have broke my graphics card/monitor.
Years pass by, I graduated May last year, and not so busy right now.
Recently I have been mesmerized by the release of 120hz LCD's and Nvidia's 3D vision kit,
but really can't seem to justify such an expensive upgrade.
($720 in my case since I would need to purchase a Core2Duo)
Anxious, I recently ordered a Dell P1230 22" CRT hoping to relive those few awesome moments of 3D I experienced 3.5 years ago ($130).
Unpacking my MSI Shutterglasses kit, I initially installed the daughter board on my 2nd PC tower:
MSI Geforce 9600GT (PCI express x16)
Dual boot Windows Xp and Vista (x86)
On Vista, I installed Nvidia Forceware drivers 182.08 and 182.08 Stereoscopic Drivers from the nvidia page.
I was not able to enable stereo from the GUI, and I noticed it only considered me being able to use Anaglyph.
Is there something I can change in my registry to enable shutterglasses detection?
I tried using the CD that came with the MSI glasses, but all the drivers are for Xp and under.
I didn't even attempt booting Xp on that PC knowing that of all of the Xp Stereoscopic Nvidia releases,
the matching Forceware releases would not even recognize a 9600GT.
So kinda disappointed, I installed the MSI Daughterboard onto my 1st PC tower:
BFG Geforce 7800GS (AGP 8x)
Windows Xp (x86)
I am currently using Forceware 163.71 + 162.50 Stereo drivers, suggested on this page:
http://www.3d.wep.dk/driverguide.html
It works of course, as I tested it on my old 15" CRT at 85hz.
So my P1230 22" arrived yesterday and have been tweaking the 3D settings with it since.
I have been playing most games at 1024x768 @ 120hz (capable of doing it at 140hz).
In Left4Dead, I find that I use a very low separation and increase the convergence to the point where all of the ammo/health slides away,
revealing a good stereoscopic effect (it's always hard to focus the gun however).
I play Quake 3 Arena similarly, but choose to use cg_drawgun 0, so I can increase convergence to the point I can see the floor coming out of the screen.
Need for Speed Underground plays well too, given that I get rid of the entire HUD.
I notice that 91.31 + 91.31 drivers let you use Ctrl + F9, Ctrl + F10 to adjust Screen Depth, and Alt for Backplane,
but oddly those Hot Key's don't work in any game I have tried.
Sadly, I also believe that I am experiencing some ghosting with this CRT (true for all CRT's?).
Maybe I am nitpicking, but I really do miss knowing how much health I have in Left4Dead, and being able to see my gun in Quake 3 Arena.
It makes me wonder whether the new Nvidia 3d Vision kit has much much better driver support, less ghosting, and compatible games.
At the same time, I'm considering whether these MSI shutter glasses are just as competent as Nvidia's knowing that it operates as 120hz as well.
(I tried 140hz too, looked pretty good).
I can't seem to justify another $200 on Nvidia's 3D vision glasses unless I am sure the games actually play better, with less ghosting.
If I were to buy them, they would obviously work with the 9600GT on Vista on my 2nd PC tower, but would I really notice a significant difference?
I imagine my scenario is similar to many previous stereoscopic gamers.
I really can't seem to assess how much better this 3D vision kit is for CRT gaming.
I apologize for this super long post & appreciate any advice.
all the best,
take care. - tidel.