New here, some quesitons

[CountViceroy]

Hi. I became interested in Stereoscopic 3d a few years ago, and got a pair of Edimensional Wireless LCD compatible Shutterglasses.

I had a CRT back then, and had not much time to mess with it, I did have a bit of a 3d effect going in Savage:The Battle For Newerth. But there were also a lot of visual problems.

Years later, now, I got it out and set it up with my LCD.

But there are sync problems. I tried the ED activator, I tried the IZ3D drivers, I tried their new beta drivers.

Problem is I can always see both images out of both eyes. My glasses are always out of sync.

Edimensional said they were frequently updating the drivers, and that I should check back.



So I still haven't expereienced very much 3d. Captain EO was too long ago to remember the quality.

I used the IZ3D to play Crysis, and the Halo Demo in crosseyed mode for about 40 minutes combined. I made a lot of adjustments here and there, to be honest the effect really wasn't all that impressive.

Are other 3D options a lot better than that? Because aside from the discomfort, it just really didn't look that good.


I get really excited when I see Vuzix new see through displays!
http://www.vuzix.com/iwear/products_wrap920av" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

I'm wicked excited about the idea of someday soon playing augmented reality games. Though to be honest, I think that these glasses aren't quite the step in the evolution we're waiting for.

Anyhow, if I had working shutter 3d, or HMD 3d would it be significantly better than the crosseyed stuff?


Thanks.

[yuriythebest]

CountViceroy welcome to MTBS!

I used the IZ3D to play Crysis, and the Halo Demo in crosseyed mode for about 40 minutes combined. I made a lot of adjustments here and there, to be honest the effect really wasn't all that impressive.

hmm are you sure you had the correct settings?

Anyhow, if I had working shutter 3d, or HMD 3d would it be significantly better than the crosseyed stuff?

you mean as opposed to having 2 images directly in front of you and having to cross your eyes? yess...

[cybereality]

I would recommend getting a pair of anaglyph glasses and trying that out first. That should give you a good idea if stereo3d is for you or not. You can get a decent pair of glasses for around $10 and that will work with free drivers from Nvidia and also iz3D. Better solutions cost in the hundreds of dollars so you want to be sure 3D works for you before you spend the big bucks. Real solutions are mich better than cross-eye for sure.

Here is where you can get some good anaglyph glasses:
http://www.3dstereo.com/viewmaster/gla.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If that works out for you then you can look into more expensive solutions such as the iz3d monitor or the nvidia 3d vision glasses.

[CountViceroy]

Thanks for the insight.

I'll order a pair of those clip on anaglyphs. From what I've read on this site anaglyph is considered a rather lower standards. Once I've seen the Ana, how much better is the rest?

Also, I've noticed that IZ3D does not load when I try to play it with Savage: Battle For Newerth. Any ideas?

Lastly, I saw a few still stereo shots of Hellgate London. It's one of my favorite games. How well does it work stereo?

Thanks!

[yuriythebest]

does anaglyph load for other games?

yeah anaglyph is for "testing" mainly, overall it's pretty good fun but delivers maybe 25% of the 3d that regular solutions do, and no real color

[cybereality]

Thanks for the insight.

I'll order a pair of those clip on anaglyphs. From what I've read on this site anaglyph is considered a rather lower standards. Once I've seen the Ana, how much better is the rest?

Also, I've noticed that IZ3D does not load when I try to play it with Savage: Battle For Newerth. Any ideas?

Yeah, anaglyph is the bare-bones experience, but it works. I'd say real solutions are about twice as good or more.

If the iz3d driver doesn't work you can also try the nvidia driver which works on nvidia cards.

[CountViceroy]

Hi.

IZ3D won't load on any setting for savage, be it anaglyph, interlaced etc.

Anaglyph does load for the other games.

CyberReality: I do have an Nvidia card, but it's pretty new. It's a 9800GTX+ . I was under the impression that these new Nvidia cards don't work with Nvidia Stereoscopic drivers?

[Tril]

28. What 3D card will Savage be compatible with?
Savage will be compatible with Nvidia, ATI, and most other video cards that support OpenGL.

Looks like the game uses OpenGL. The iZ3D stereo driver only works on DirectX 8 and DirectX 9 games right now.

[CountViceroy]

oh. Thanks tril.

[Likay]

Hi and welcome!

I think your main problem right now is the lcd-screen (usually don't work with shutters but some very new might do) and missing "oldschool" support for your card vs missing nvidiasupport for your glasses.

If you'd like to try out anaglyph and have problem getting some glasses then pm me and i'll send you either a homemade pair or filters to make your own (modify a pair of sunglasses for instance).

cheers

[CountViceroy]

That's very nice of you Likay, but I've already ordered a pair from the site that CyberReality reccomended.

By the way. I just read that article with the internet co-creator, and he was talking about how in real life obects aren't 3D beyond several meters, and that he felt S3D shouldn't make them appear so.

What are your thoughts guys?

More depth the better? Realism?

[Likay]

Good! It was just in case.

Objects farther away certainly appears with less/no stereo effect. But you still have the feel those are far away because of the separation. When objects comes closer to you the feeling of 3d becomes intense because each eye also views different angles of the object (better 3d and wow-effect in other words).
The most pleasant stereosettings when gaming is keeping things "inside" the screen most of the time and having some objects "popping out" as certain occasions. It does depend a little on what game you play though.
Tinkering a bit with separation/convergence is the holy grail to achieve a good stereoeffect.

[CountViceroy]

So I got those red/cyan anaglyph clip ons.
I've been using the IZ3D driver anaglyph (not optimized setting, I should try that I suppose, though I don't know the difference).

performance varies.

1.It works VERY well on Overlord. Which so far isn't that fun a game, but the 3D is great.
2. IZ3D makes Crysis flip out
3. Made shadowrun error out
4. Halo trial, doesn't work right, the red and blue are still visible through both lenses, and there is no 3d
5. Last remnant: it works, but generally that game doesn't have angles the make 3D look especially good.
6. Looking at online pictures: Some of them work quite well, others seem like the colors aren't quite right, and look like they're trying to be 3D, but are mosly just sort of wierd looking.

Is there currently a solution to play anaglyph on OpenGL games? I'd love to rock Savage stereoscopically.
That and I wish my friend would give me back my Hellgate disc.

By the way. anyone tried IZ3D driver with PS1 or PS2 Emulators?
I wouldn't mind a little Tekken Tag, or God Hand or Legend of Dragoon in stereo!