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Yes, here is working. What you have to do?:

1- Install Windows VIsta 32bits.

2- Install Nvidia 175.16 combo drivers (I suppose that it works with 174.xx too).

3- Make this registry ajustment:

A) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\Stereo3D\ShowAllviewerTypes -> 2 (1 is the default, with "2" you will see after all viewer types to choose what you want).

B) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\Stereo3D\StereoForceCPLViewerType -> 1 (0 is the default, but with 0 the driver does not use the stereo type you selected before, so use "1" to force it to do what you want).

And all is done. Open the 3D Stereo Control Panel and choose the 3D Stereo Display Type. I have just done it and I have seen Anaglyph and the "CRT with shutter glasses" type working in my Zalman 22" trimon monitor (before I only could see the Zalman type) and my 8800 videocard. I have not put the eDimensional dongle to verify that shutterglasses really work, but all seem to indicate that works (the pagefliping is working right). Also I have selected "Planar mirror left/right" and also I have only one image in my monitor, so I suppose that using a 2º monitor it works whit the other image mirrored.

Maybe so easy? Tomorrow I will test my CRT and my made planar setup to see what happend.

Lol?
If this works You just whiped out a LOT of problems...

If you are correct it would clear all the problems of GF higher 7...

I'll have to try this out tomorrow, too well actually it just started, so I'll have to try it today

Do you know if this this new driver supports 64bit, too? I think I could try it out on such a system...

Woah! Totally blockbuster, I have to go try this now. Can it really be that easy, I hope this isn't a gag!!!

I hope you succed, so I have an easier game tomorrow
Well other projects will have to wait now

I could not get it to work on Vista 64. The other viewer types don't appear. I don't have a Zalman monitor. Maybe it only works if you have a Zalman monitor.

It looks like the key is elsewhere too in Vista 64.

For some reason I couldn't get it to work. On Vista 32-bit with 174.75 or 175.16. Did you mean the new 175.19 driver that just came out? Also, I'm using the 174.76 stereo 3d driver, that is the only one for Vista right? I'm going to do more testing, but maybe its not as easy as it appears. Also, could it be that having the Zalman unlocks whatever it is that blocks the panel. I tested this with a Samsung LCD monitor and also on the VR920, no dice. I'm still trying, I hope this can work somehow.

One strange thing though, theres an entry for "AnaglyphEnabled" and its listed at "0xdeadbeef". Was it always like that? Seems like a bad sign...

EDIT: The 175.19 don't seem to be any help either. In fact, I think they may hurt performance but I need to test it more. Seemed faster with 175.16 I think.

What model of video card are you using?

my bad, saw you stated 8800.

Has anyone tried after removing the pin as per the following?
http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1072
I'm thinking you may need to clone the device code of a NV Supported display to get Stereo to work. Just a thought.

android78 wrote:Has anyone tried after removing the pin as per the following?
http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1072

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Let me try with the Revelator adapter, maybe that will work.

EDIT: I tried using the Revelator adapter and it didn't seem to make a difference. At this point I kinda give up. I should be getting a Zalman in a few weeks anyway, so maybe that will help.

Please, don't let me discourage you guys. Keep trying, there has got to be a way to get this to work.

I have just get up and I have put the CRT monitor with my eDimensional dongle to see what happend, and bad news... the stereotypes only are show if the Zalman monitor is recognized and it is the 1st monitor.

I am using Windows VIsta 32bits (I have no idea what happedn in Vista 64), and I am using the combo driver that I said, 175.16 nvidia driver and 175.16 stereo. I have an ASUS Nvidia 8800 ultra (I found it cheap two months ago).

Maybe I did to try this before to post this post and cause a false alarm. This seem to be ussefull only for people with the Zalman monitor, that now can use Anaglyph mode (before we couldn´t), and people for testing for a real solution. I need to try other modes (I´m thinking in planar), but I suppose that will not work, like CRT mode.

There is an entry in the registry that seem to be the key: "StereoMonitorID = 4155ef14".

I hope this will be usefull for anybody.

ED: I have just used an VGA cable with an eDimensional dongle: the zalman monitor is recognized like Zalman analogue, and shutterglasses are working, but like any other LCD monitor and flickering a lot only with 60 hz refresh rates..... so bad, only a curiosity. Y suppose that it is perfectly possible to use a planar setup if the zalman monitor is one (the 1st) of the two monitors, but I need to try later.... it is possible that the 2nd monitor causes any problem because it is not a zalman monitor.

ED2: it is curious that I can see all viewertypes, but it does not show me the "Zalman type". There are the types I can select:

- Anaglyph (red/blue glasses)
- CRT with shutter glasses
- Direct 3-Pin DIN VESA Coneect
- Dual VGA Output (Dep3D)
- Dual VGA with Mirror up/down
- NeurOK front/back (iZ3D monitor seem to be, so there is the iZ3D logo present... 8|
- Philips 3D multiview panel
- Planar Mirror left/right
- Sharp 3D Display
- Vertical Interleaved (SeeReal)

Cant find any info on 175.16 stereo driver. Where did you get it from?

I haven't tried jet, but it seems to have only a very slim chance... And I'm not good at messing with config or reg files

@b4thman:
If these are the old settings, the sharp 3D settup might be the correct interlacing for Iz3D monitor. Please try out, if it works with the Zalman. Maybe you'll have a reversed 3D picture --> turn the glasses upside down.

If it works, other outputs might work, too. If it does not, the chances of the oter outputs are realy slim...


And I noticed Philips 3D... my driver does not have it, so it might be a new output, which is supported (in the future?).
The other output modes were present before, too.

Sorry, now I´m not sure that it is 175.16 combo... it is 175.16 forceware sure, but I´m not sure about the stereodriver version. I downloaded from a Zalman vendor webpage because my CD included was obsolete (I don´t remember the website). The name of the package is 175.16, and I can see a .pdf tutorial document in a directory named "NVIDIA Forceware-3D Stereo 175.16(1)", so I didn´t read anymore and asume that it is also 175.16 stereo driver. Now I´m looking for but I see no information about the stereo3d version, only this directory name.

How can I be sure if this is really 175.16 stereo3d driver version?.... I can´t find where to see it in Windows Vista. The driver version of the display is 7.15.11.7516 as it is show in the "System information", but says nothing about stereo3d version (and Nvidia control panel do not inform about).

The Philips mode show the Sharp 3D LC display logo. NeurOK, Philips3D, and Sharp3D seem that not work, all gives a normal image. But other outputs works, like anaglyhp, CRT, and Vertical Interleaved (and I´m not sure about planar). I still can´t find the zalman mode, so I need to change the registry If I want to use the zalman stereotype.

As I said before, this is only really usefull to use Anaglyph type if you have a Zalman monitor (for the moment).

Sounds like flogging a dead horse to me Wait for iz3d 1.09.

b4thman wrote: There is an entry in the registry that seem to be the key: "StereoMonitorID = 4155ef14".

I hope this will be usefull for anybody.

i tried to add this in the registry ( under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\Stereo3D, right? i made a REG_SZ, right?)

nothing happened.
ideas?

btw, i don't find : HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\Stereo3D\StereoForceCPLViewerType -> 1

i have ge force 9600, vista32.

Please make it work!!!

b4thman wrote:Yes, here is working. What you have to do?:

1- Install Windows VIsta 32bits.

2- Install Nvidia 175.16 combo drivers (I suppose that it works with 174.xx too).

3- Make this registry ajustment:

A) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\Stereo3D\ShowAllviewerTypes -> 2 (1 is the default, with "2" you will see after all viewer types to choose what you want).

B) HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\Stereo3D\StereoForceCPLViewerType -> 1 (0 is the default, but with 0 the driver does not use the stereo type you selected before, so use "1" to force it to do what you want).

And all is done. Open the 3D Stereo Control Panel and choose the 3D Stereo Display Type. I have just done it and I have seen Anaglyph and the "CRT with shutter glasses" type working in my Zalman 22" trimon monitor (before I only could see the Zalman type) and my 8800 videocard. I have not put the eDimensional dongle to verify that shutterglasses really work, but all seem to indicate that works (the pagefliping is working right). Also I have selected "Planar mirror left/right" and also I have only one image in my monitor, so I suppose that using a 2º monitor it works whit the other image mirrored.

Maybe so easy? Tomorrow I will test my CRT and my made planar setup to see what happend.

Hmm i did all that and i dont have any extra options anywhere. Still doesnt let me choose, just the good old red and blue anaglyph is locked in and unchangeable,

b4thman wrote:Sorry, now I´m not sure that it is 175.16 combo... it is 175.16 forceware sure, but I´m not sure about the stereodriver version. I downloaded from a Zalman vendor webpage because my CD included was obsolete (I don´t remember the website). The name of the package is 175.16, and I can see a .pdf tutorial document in a directory named "NVIDIA Forceware-3D Stereo 175.16(1)", so I didn´t read anymore and asume that it is also 175.16 stereo driver. Now I´m looking for but I see no information about the stereo3d version, only this directory name.

How can I be sure if this is really 175.16 stereo3d driver version?.... I can´t find where to see it in Windows Vista. The driver version of the display is 7.15.11.7516 as it is show in the "System information", but says nothing about stereo3d version (and Nvidia control panel do not inform about).

The Philips mode show the Sharp 3D LC display logo. NeurOK, Philips3D, and Sharp3D seem that not work, all gives a normal image. But other outputs works, like anaglyhp, CRT, and Vertical Interleaved (and I´m not sure about planar). I still can´t find the zalman mode, so I need to change the registry If I want to use the zalman stereotype.

As I said before, this is only really usefull to use Anaglyph type if you have a Zalman monitor (for the moment).

it seems to work only, if you have a Zalman and want the other outputs for some reason...

Maybe this helps you:

There is an entry in the registry that seem to be the key: "StereoMonitorID = 4155ef14".

I'm not good at regediting, but maybe you are lucky?

Some time ago i tried it several times to edit the entries. Found out that there is a display and also a monitor id. One of them, don´t remember which one, was overwritten by the driver when activating 3D. Tried to force them to stay as the same i typed in with changing the rights to entries. Gave up as i learned that this didn´t worked. Wasn´t able to disable the writing rights of the system for the entry it only worked for the folder.

The only way i see is in hacking the driver, which is maybe not legal. Maybe it could help to look for the part where the function for scanning the id is found and force it to return "true" if display is not found

If somebody is able to reverse engineer the function, it would be better to put this energy in developing an open source shutterglasses wrapper. Of course this one must not like money, because otherwise it would be possible that he has a future in the big business and we no open source SG wrapper.

Just work for both as Neo from Matrix did...

Of course you'd have to publish it with a different name

i've pretty much given up on trying to get them working, tried for 2 days.

Though i still cant seem to fine some red and blue glasses though i don't want them.....i want my shutters working

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\Stereo3D\ShowAllviewerTypes -> 2 (1 is the default, with "2" you will see after all viewer types to choose what you want).

With "2" i didn't get the zalman, but with FFFFFFFF i did.
So change the 2 in FFFFFFFF (hex) .
I have vista with a 9800GT with 180.48 driver and the 174.76 stereo driver.
I stil l have the problem the in-game convergence ctr-F5/F6 does not work.

Hello,

I know the thread is not new, but is it still possible to get shutterglasses working?

I've got the Elsa Revelator and the driver installed, but the other output methodes won't show up by editing the registry values...

Does somebody got it to work?


thx
MCX

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