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Z800 eMagin is up to something

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:34 am
by genetic
For the Z800

There may be hope here or this could be a very mean trick.

http://www.3dvisor.com/support.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

they now give a link to new nvidia drivers

NVIDIA 3D Stereo Driver Windows 7, Vista 32-bit & 64-bit: v197.45

and they tell you to check here

http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-3d-games.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

for a list of 3D game effect rating.

maybe this is for 7800 GPUs and older on Windows seven?

I am lost.

Re: Z800 eMagin is up to something

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:28 pm
by cybereality
Maybe they signed a deal with Nvidia?

Re: Z800 eMagin is up to something

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:49 am
by crim3
Really very very stange 0_o!
I'd test it but it seems very unlikely because the z800 can't not identified itself and is always listed as CRT display, so, the nvidia stereo driver can't enable the correct output based on the display ID.

Maybe what happens is that the z800 is usable IF you have the nvidia shutters plugged in.

Re: Z800 eMagin is up to something

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:33 am
by Johnny-Mnemonic
crim3 wrote:Really very very stange 0_o!
I'd test it but it seems very unlikely because the z800 can't not identified itself and is always listed as CRT display, so, the nvidia stereo driver can't enable the correct output based on the display ID.

Maybe what happens is that the z800 is usable IF you have the nvidia shutters plugged in.
Test it please, very intriguing!

Re: Z800 eMagin is up to something

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:33 pm
by crim3
Every time a try to setup my mind to go through all this hassle one fearsome word repeats inside my mind: anaglyph.
I'm 99% this won't work by just installing the infamous nvidia driver, so I really don't feel like testing it.
I have revised the FAQ at the z800's site and it's plenty of reference about its functionality in both xp and vista, but not how to do it.

This question (and answer) is very interesting (from http://www.3dvisor.com/faqs.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;):
Will stereovision 3D work on my computer?

Most Windows XP and Windows Vista PCs and video cards have the potential of producing some level of stereovision 3D imagery with the right software. eMagin Corportaion's value added reseller (Virtual Realities) now has the Z800 working in 3D with Windows XP and Vista with most ATI and NVIDIA graphics card. Customers are also welcome to contact Virtual Realities at techsupport@vrealities.com if you require further detailed instructions
And the same answer is given in another question about opengl. To me it seems that they have come out with something, but you have to contact their "value added reseller" to know what it is.

Re: Z800 eMagin is up to something

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:32 pm
by vrekks
OMFG! Emagin actually had a human test their product with some games in 3d. This is a big step for them in the consumer department. Maybe this is a sign of things to come. I doubt it though because they still list the 78.01 driver as a requirement.

Re: Z800 eMagin is up to something

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:40 am
by crim3
vrekks wrote:OMFG! Emagin actually had a human test their product with some games in 3d. This is a big step for them in the consumer department.
:lol: Yes, I feel sorry for them. They are so used to ignore the outer world... But now they are forced to interact with customers in an attempt to get their share of the 3D cake.

Re: Z800 eMagin is up to something

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:07 am
by ancjob
crim3 wrote:
vrekks wrote:OMFG! Emagin actually had a human test their product with some games in 3d. This is a big step for them in the consumer department.
:lol: Yes, I feel sorry for them. They are so used to ignore the outer world... But now they are forced to interact with customers in an attempt to get their share of the 3D cake.

why can't they add support for S-video and composite video (NTSC/PAL) - all they have to do is to mod the box a bit and then demand the US1.5k with grits and gusto...

and make it wireless also with transmitter on the box and receiver on the z800 (something like fatshark) with battery of about 6-7 hrs !

look at - z800 is neither a complete games accessory nor a full-fledged 3d device supporting the entire gamut of 3d games irrespective of graphic cards nor a portable video accessory..

In other words - it's poop that they are selling for US 1.7k !

even the nonames in HMD are providing multiple input [composite,s-video,vga etc) and even dual input ...


are emagin R&D afraid of something new to try ?
Or are they simply air-heads just running out of ideas ?

Once z800 starts to accept multiple input as above - i will be first one to buy straight away

is anybody from z800 R&D looking at this post ..................

Re: Z800 eMagin is up to something

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:30 pm
by PalmerTech
Ancjob, I think you misunderstand the market. HMD makers do not WANT to market to the mainstream, in general. It is just not profitable enough.

They would much rather sell just a few units to medical, law enforcement, military, and research organizations than to sell lots of units to consumers for a lower price. They do not need nor want to expand, they are generally fairly small companies that are happy to live on the market they already have. Adding more inputs is just not something they need to worry about.

Also, as a side note: You said in another post that your graphics card cannot go down to 640x480. I am 99% sure it can. You just go to advanced settings, then display all resolutions. 640x480 at 60hz is bound to be there somewhere.

Re: Z800 eMagin is up to something

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:45 pm
by ancjob
PalmerTech wrote:Ancjob, I think you misunderstand the market. HMD makers do not WANT to market to the mainstream, in general. It is just not profitable enough.

They would much rather sell just a few units to medical, law enforcement, military, and research organizations than to sell lots of units to consumers for a lower price. They do not need nor want to expand, they are generally fairly small companies that are happy to live on the market they already have. Adding more inputs is just not something they need to worry about.

Also, as a side note: You said in another post that your graphics card cannot go down to 640x480. I am 99% sure it can. You just go to advanced settings, then display all resolutions. 640x480 at 60hz is bound to be there somewhere.
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yes it does not display 640x480 normally hidden - slider does go to 800x600 minimum
ONLY under advanced settings win 7 enterprise - display] where it lists all modes the i see 640x480 and when i chose that i have a small rectangular screen for display flanked on all sides by black...and i utter one word - preposterous !
changing it back to 1400x900 full screen

Re: Z800 eMagin is up to something

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:31 am
by Defender
why should you want to use 640x480, z800 resolution is 800x600

i guess you need new firmware revision, some time ago they sold a new bios for the device supporting native 3D modes.

i don't agree with PalmerTech. Why should emagin make a new website for the z800 when they don't want to sell it to consumers. Of course they have the millitary market but they clearly feature the gamer potentional.

unfortunately it is not clear if new nvdia drivers support the device.

Stupid enough i sold my z800 for very low price, now it is like 2000$ device.

Re: Z800 eMagin is up to something

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:57 am
by ancjob
can somebody tell if the z800 accepts input @50Hz ?