Vk3DVision - A Vulkan 3D Vision Driver (With Single-Frame Stereo and RTX Support)

Post by **LukeRoss00** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:07 am

I enabled 3D Vision from the NVIDIA control panel. I'll try from 3DFM now, but I don't think it's going to make a difference.

Ditching 3D Vision completely and moving to saner output techniques might be a good idea to steer clear of a nervous breakdown!

Post by **helifax** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:09 am

LukeRoss00 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:07 am I enabled 3D Vision from the NVIDIA control panel. I'll try from 3DFM now, but I don't think it's going to make a difference.

Ditching 3D Vision completely and moving to saner output techniques might be a good idea to steer clear of a nervous breakdown!

Try 3DFM! Enabling from Nvidia Panel will always crash for me! (As a matter of fact it crashes in any game and application if I use NvPanel ^_^).

Make sure you have both options enabled!

It's not that! It's just it is very frustrating as I can't get to replicate the crash. And when I do, it crashes in some Nvidia internals. It always has to do with the setup -_-

Post by **LukeRoss00** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:22 am

As I suspected, no difference if I enable 3D Vision from 3DFM

Post by **helifax** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:27 am

LukeRoss00 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:22 am As I suspected, no difference if I enable 3D Vision from 3DFM

You are getting this crash even without 3DVision enabled no?

Post by **LukeRoss00** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:30 am

With 3D Vision always enabled (i.e., not doing the disable/enable routine) I get the black screen hang instead of the crash.

Post by **helifax** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:33 am

LukeRoss00 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:30 am With 3D Vision always enabled (i.e., not doing the disable/enable routine) I get the black screen hang instead of the crash.

And if you disable 3D Vision completely... and run it, what do you get?

I know this might sound silly, but have you considered, reinstalling the driver and Installing 3D Vision via 3D Fix Manager? How did you install the 3D Vision driver?
The way it works for me:
- Installed new driver (DCH or Standard doesn't matter).
- Launch 3FDM and try to enable 3D. It will tell me it needs to install some components. I say OK.
- I run the quick-setup for 3D.
- Once enabled I enable the Win10 patch.
- Disable 3D.
- Start Vk3DVision.
- Enable 3D & Win10 patch.
- Start game. Tried it more than 100 times. It always works.. this is what is confusing me...

There is clearly something funky going on with 3D Vision when trying to switch to exclusive fullscreen, which I can't understand (and probably can't because it's some Nvidia driver stuff that no one knows about.)
As for switching to Fullscreen, all I do is call SetFullscreenState() from the Window Main thread (you can't do it from another thread as it will dead-lock.) You either get a crash in CopyResource (which means the driver is KAPUT at that point) or a dead-lock which I can't see a reason why it would happen.

Post by **LukeRoss00** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:42 am

I think the main difference between your system and mine is the video card generation. Bo3b is getting the crashes too, and he has a GTX 1080 Ti like myself, but on DCH drivers. So I'll tend to exclude that it's a driver problem (both Bo3b and me can run the control panel test application in 3D and other games without issues).

If I disable 3D Vision completely, the game works reliably with your onscreen GUI and everything, but of course no stereo goodness

Post by **helifax** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:46 am

LukeRoss00 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:42 am I think the main difference between your system and mine is the video card generation. Bo3b is getting the crashes too, and he has a GTX 1080 Ti like myself, but on DCH drivers. So I'll tend to exclude that it's a driver problem (both Bo3b and me can run the control panel test application in 3D and other games without issues).

If I disable 3D Vision completely, the game works reliably with your onscreen GUI and everything, but of course no stereo goodness

Which means that it switches to Exclusive Fullscreen. I just pass 0 to the shaders as I don't have Stereo Information to send.
Ok, lets try another trick.
If you enable 3D Vision Discover and run it, do you still get the crash/hang? or does it work in fullscreen?
This is exactly what it is a driver problem: Even if the driver set is the same but the GPUs are from different generations, the driver will work differently internally.
I don't have other GPU to test, except a 780Ti

) Might try with that one as well?!

Also viewtopic.php?p=172229#p172229
GTX 1060 on ann Alienware machine and it worked... so I don't think is this either

Post by **LukeRoss00** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:55 am

In 3D Vision Discover mode it works without problems, both for me and Bo3b. I'm not sure it's a driver problem: I suspect that it might be a reentrancy issue.

I run my desktop in 120 Hz mode. Despite that, when I start the game with 3D Vision on (not Discover) and your wrapper running, I see a display mode change just before the crash. That means that your SetFullscreenState() call is triggering a desktop resolution change, and as you know that will generate a flurry of Windows messages to both the game and the wrapper. Is your code well protected against trying to do anything dangerous (like grabbing the backbuffer, copying resources, etc.) during that interval?

Post by **Ixomack** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:56 am

Hi,
Same thing for me : Detroit won't work as long as vk3DVision is up and running.
However, 3D Vision Discover seems to be working perfectly fine though.

Post by **helifax** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:59 am

LukeRoss00 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:55 am In 3D Vision Discover mode it works without problems, both for me and Bo3b. I'm not sure it's a driver problem: I suspect that it might be a reentrancy issue.

I run my desktop in 120 Hz mode. Despite that, when I start the game with 3D Vision on (not Discover) and your wrapper running, I see a display mode change just before the crash. That means that your SetFullscreenState() call is triggering a desktop resolution change, and as you know that will generate a flurry of Windows messages to both the game and the wrapper. Is your code well protected against trying to do anything dangerous (like grabbing the backbuffer, copying resources, etc.) during that interval?

Yes, it is. I don't do anything until I get back the return value that Exclusive Fullscreen has been activated. But, let's try something quick

But this doesn't explain the dead-lock you are seeing...

Post by **LukeRoss00** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:01 am

Perhaps you might be able to reproduce the crash if you set your desktop to anything other than 1920x1080@120, so that when you switch to fullscreen you will get a mode change like we seem to have...

Post by **helifax** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:01 am

Ixomack wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:56 am Hi,
Same thing for me : Detroit won't work as long as vk3DVision is up and running.
However, 3D Vision Discover seems to be working perfectly fine though.

"won't work" it's not descriptive enough... what exactly is happening? and what GPU do you have?

Post by **kaimastah** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:10 am

The Epic Store demo works out of the box on my old system even with older drivers: Win10 1809, 441.87 standard drivers, 2500k + gtx 970 + normal 3DVision monitor set @ 120hz.
I tried the first version of the fix and followed the instructions. I also have 2 other HDTVs connected in other ports but didn't have any issues.

It might be worth checking if the APP_COMPAT_SHIM profile flag solves this, although it should've crashed for me as well if this was the case:

APP_COMPAT_SHIM - 0x00000002 DX11_FORCE_DDI_CRITICAL_SECTION_FOR_STEREO (Force a critical section on all non-reentrant DX11 DDI if stereo shim is enabled)
or
APP_COMPAT_SHIM - 0x00000001 DX11_FORCE_DDI_CRITICAL_SECTION (Force a critical section on all non-reentrant DX11 DDI)

Post by **helifax** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:11 am

LukeRoss00 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:01 am Perhaps you might be able to reproduce the crash if you set your desktop to anything other than 1920x1080@120, so that when you switch to fullscreen you will get a mode change like we seem to have...

Already tested, all refresh-rates and it doesn't matter. What matters is the game makes the swapchain the same size as your Window Resolution. If your Windows Resolution is 4k and your game is set to run at 1080p it will crash...
There is a reason I said you need to match the resolution of the game with Windows... I will not add all the extra resolution enumeration and resolution changing support just for 3D Vision (non of the other modes require this as none have the stupid requirement of Fullscreen ONLY like 3D Vision).

Can you please give me the log file from "C:\ProgramData\Vk3DVision\Vk3DVision64.log"? I somehow think your game resolution doesn't match with the Windows one...

Post by **helifax** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:12 am

kaimastah wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:10 am The Epic Store demo works out of the box on my old system even with older drivers: Win10 1809, 441.87 standard drivers, 2500k + gtx 970 + normal 3DVision monitor set @ 120hz.
I tried the first version of the fix and followed the instructions. I also have 2 other HDTVs connected in other ports but didn't have any issues.

It might be worth checking if the APP_COMPAT_SHIM profile flag solves this, although it should've crashed for me as well if this was the case:

APP_COMPAT_SHIM - 0x00000002 DX11_FORCE_DDI_CRITICAL_SECTION_FOR_STEREO (Force a critical section on all non-reentrant DX11 DDI if stereo shim is enabled)
or
APP_COMPAT_SHIM - 0x00000001 DX11_FORCE_DDI_CRITICAL_SECTION (Force a critical section on all non-reentrant DX11 DDI)

So it works for you?!

Post by **kaimastah** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:13 am

Yes it's working fine. No problems here

Post by **LukeRoss00** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:22 am

helifax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:11 am Can you please give me the log file from "C:\ProgramData\Vk3DVision\Vk3DVision64.log"?

This is the log from a hanging black screen run (no 3D vision disable/enable dance):

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16:19:40:724 [19872] | INFO  | Initializing Vk3DVision version '0.0.1.2212' (64-bit) built on '2020-07-22 13:00:40' loaded from "C:\ProgramData\Vk3DVision\Vk3DVision64.dll" into "C:\Program Files\Epic Games\DetroitBecomeHuman\DetroitBecomeHuman.exe" ...
16:19:40:845 [19872] | INFO  | Registering hooks for "user32.dll" ...
16:19:40:845 [19872] | INFO  | > Libraries loaded.
16:19:40:845 [19872] | INFO  | > Found 15 match(es). Installing ...
16:19:40:880 [19872] | INFO  | Registering hooks for "ws2_32.dll" ...
16:19:40:880 [19872] | INFO  | > Libraries loaded.
16:19:40:880 [19872] | INFO  | > Found 8 match(es). Installing ...
16:19:40:909 [19872] | INFO  | Initialized.
16:19:40:910 [19872] | INFO  | Redirecting vkCreateInstance(pCreateInfo = 000000AC690EBD30, pAllocator = 0000000086EC7048, pInstance = 000000AC690EBE90) ...
16:19:40:910 [19872] | INFO  | > Requesting new Vulkan instance for API version 1.1 ...
16:19:40:930 [19872] | INFO  | Redirecting vkCreateDevice(physicalDevice = 0000000086A1FBE0, pCreateInfo = 000000AC690FE990, pAllocator = 0000000000000000, pDevice = 000000AC690FE930) ...
16:19:41:249 [19872] | INFO  | Redirecting vkCreateWin32SurfaceKHR(instance = 0000000086EA6960, pCreateInfo = 000000AC690FEDB8, pAllocator = 0000000000000000, pSurface = 0000000085A440E8) ...
16:19:41:250 [19872] | INFO  | Redirecting vkCreateSwapchainKHR(device = 0000000086EBAE60, pCreateInfo = 000000AC690FEDE0, pAllocator = 0000000000000000, pSwapchain = 0000000085A440F0) ...
16:19:41:250 [19872] | INFO  | > Dumping swap chain description:
16:19:41:250 [19872] | INFO  |   +-----------------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+
16:19:41:250 [19872] | INFO  |   | Parameter                               | Value                                   |
16:19:41:250 [19872] | INFO  |   +-----------------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+
16:19:41:250 [19872] | INFO  |   | flags                                   | 0x4                                     |
16:19:41:250 [19872] | INFO  |   | surface                                 | 00000000859A2230                        |
16:19:41:250 [19872] | INFO  |   | minImageCount                           | 3                                       |
16:19:41:250 [19872] | INFO  |   | imageFormat                             | 44                                      |
16:19:41:250 [19872] | INFO  |   | imageColorSpace                         | 0                                       |
16:19:41:250 [19872] | INFO  |   | imageExtent                             | 1024                576                 |
16:19:41:250 [19872] | INFO  |   | imageArrayLayers                        | 1                                       |
16:19:41:251 [19872] | INFO  |   | imageUsage                              | 0x17                                    |
16:19:41:251 [19872] | INFO  |   | imageSharingMode                        | 0                                       |
16:19:41:251 [19872] | INFO  |   | queueFamilyIndexCount                   | 0                                       |
16:19:41:251 [19872] | INFO  |   | preTransform                            | 0x1                                     |
16:19:41:251 [19872] | INFO  |   | compositeAlpha                          | 0x1                                     |
16:19:41:251 [19872] | INFO  |   | presentMode                             | 2                                       |
16:19:41:251 [19872] | INFO  |   | clipped                                 | true                                    |
16:19:41:251 [19872] | INFO  |   | oldSwapchain                            | 0000000000000000                        |
16:19:41:251 [19872] | INFO  |   +-----------------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+
16:19:41:284 [19872] | INFO  | Running on GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Driver 451.48
16:19:41:299 [19872] | INFO  | Recreated runtime environment on runtime 00000228504E9220.
16:19:41:299 [19872] | INFO  | Nvidia Profile exe name:detroitbecomehuman.exe
16:19:41:645 [19872] | INFO  | Found NVIDIA existing Profile: Detroit: Become Human
16:19:41:645 [19872] | INFO  | Found NVIDIA Profile: Detroit: Become Human
16:19:41:645 [19872] | INFO  | 3D Vision Profile value found and is already set!
16:19:41:645 [19872] | ERROR | ERROR:Cannot save profile. Error code: -137
16:19:41:645 [19872] | ERROR | ERROR: Cannot update the existing profile with the 3D Vision flag !!!
16:19:43:247 [19872] | INFO  | Redirecting vkDestroySwapchainKHR(0000000086EBAE60, 0000000086E7F9D0, 0000000000000000) ...
16:19:43:247 [19872] | INFO  | Destroyed runtime environment on runtime 00000228504E9220.
16:19:43:250 [19872] | INFO  | Redirecting vkDestroySurfaceKHR(instance = 0000000086EA6960, surface = 00000000859A2230, pAllocator = 0000000000000000) ...
16:19:43:250 [19872] | INFO  | Redirecting vkCreateWin32SurfaceKHR(instance = 0000000086EA6960, pCreateInfo = 000000AC690FF608, pAllocator = 0000000000000000, pSurface = 0000000085A440E8) ...
16:19:43:252 [19872] | INFO  | Redirecting vkCreateSwapchainKHR(device = 0000000086EBAE60, pCreateInfo = 000000AC690FF630, pAllocator = 0000000000000000, pSwapchain = 0000000085A440F0) ...
16:19:43:252 [19872] | INFO  | > Dumping swap chain description:
16:19:43:252 [19872] | INFO  |   +-----------------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+
16:19:43:252 [19872] | INFO  |   | Parameter                               | Value                                   |
16:19:43:252 [19872] | INFO  |   +-----------------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+
16:19:43:252 [19872] | INFO  |   | flags                                   | 0x4                                     |
16:19:43:252 [19872] | INFO  |   | surface                                 | 00000000859A2230                        |
16:19:43:252 [19872] | INFO  |   | minImageCount                           | 3                                       |
16:19:43:252 [19872] | INFO  |   | imageFormat                             | 44                                      |
16:19:43:252 [19872] | INFO  |   | imageColorSpace                         | 0                                       |
16:19:43:252 [19872] | INFO  |   | imageExtent                             | 1920                1080                |
16:19:43:252 [19872] | INFO  |   | imageArrayLayers                        | 1                                       |
16:19:43:252 [19872] | INFO  |   | imageUsage                              | 0x17                                    |
16:19:43:252 [19872] | INFO  |   | imageSharingMode                        | 0                                       |
16:19:43:252 [19872] | INFO  |   | queueFamilyIndexCount                   | 0                                       |
16:19:43:252 [19872] | INFO  |   | preTransform                            | 0x1                                     |
16:19:43:252 [19872] | INFO  |   | compositeAlpha                          | 0x1                                     |
16:19:43:252 [19872] | INFO  |   | presentMode                             | 2                                       |
16:19:43:252 [19872] | INFO  |   | clipped                                 | true                                    |
16:19:43:252 [19872] | INFO  |   | oldSwapchain                            | 0000000000000000                        |
16:19:43:252 [19872] | INFO  |   +-----------------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+
16:19:43:254 [19872] | INFO  | Running on GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Driver 451.48
16:19:43:256 [19872] | INFO  | Recreated runtime environment on runtime 00000228117C6580.
16:19:43:256 [19872] | INFO  | Nvidia Profile exe name:detroitbecomehuman.exe
16:19:43:602 [19872] | INFO  | Found NVIDIA existing Profile: Detroit: Become Human
16:19:43:602 [19872] | INFO  | Found NVIDIA Profile: Detroit: Become Human
16:19:43:602 [19872] | INFO  | 3D Vision Profile value found and is already set!
16:19:43:602 [19872] | ERROR | ERROR:Cannot save profile. Error code: -137
16:19:43:602 [19872] | ERROR | ERROR: Cannot update the existing profile with the 3D Vision flag !!!

And this is the call stack for the main thread captured by breaking into the hanging process:

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>	ntdll.dll!00007ffc9aa9f9a4()	Unknown
 	ntdll.dll!00007ffc9aa07619()	Unknown
 	ntdll.dll!00007ffc9aa074d2()	Unknown
 	ntdll.dll!00007ffc9aa072fd()	Unknown
 	ntdll.dll!00007ffc9aa1b576()	Unknown
 	ntdll.dll!00007ffc9aa1b3c0()	Unknown
 	nvapi64.dll!00007ffc899faef8()	Unknown
 	nvSCPAPI64.dll!00007ffc7b8f66df()	Unknown
 	nvSCPAPI64.dll!00007ffc7b8f65d5()	Unknown
 	nvSCPAPI64.dll!00007ffc7b8f6a13()	Unknown
 	nvSCPAPI64.dll!00007ffc7b8f872a()	Unknown
 	nvSCPAPI64.dll!00007ffc7b8d745b()	Unknown
 	nvSCPAPI64.dll!00007ffc7b8d8a12()	Unknown
 	nvSCPAPI64.dll!00007ffc7b8d8e04()	Unknown
 	nvSCPAPI64.dll!00007ffc7b8da8d6()	Unknown
 	nvwgf2umx.dll!00007ffc5d33fec7()	Unknown
 	nvwgf2umx.dll!00007ffc5d356f75()	Unknown
 	d3d11.dll!CResource<ID3D11Texture2D1>::CLS::FinalConstruct()	Unknown
 	d3d11.dll!TCLSWrappers<class CTexture2D>::CLSFinalConstructFn(struct CTexture2D::CLS *,class CContext *,struct CTexture2D::TConstructorArgs const *)	Unknown
 	d3d11.dll!CLayeredObjectWithCLS<class CTexture2D>::FinalConstruct(struct CTexture2D::TConstructorArgs const &,struct _GUID const &,void * *,struct CLayeredObjectWithCLS<class CTexture2D>::SInfo const *)	Unknown
 	d3d11.dll!CDevice::CreateLayeredChild()	Unknown
 	d3d11.dll!NDXGI::CDeviceChild<IDXGISurface,IUnknown>::FinalConstruct()	Unknown
 	d3d11.dll!NDXGI::CResource::FinalConstruct()	Unknown
 	d3d11.dll!NDXGI::CDevice::CreateLayeredChild()	Unknown
 	d3d11.dll!NOutermost::CDevice::CreateLayeredChild()	Unknown
 	d3d11.dll!NDXGI::CDevice::CreateSurfaceInternal()	Unknown
 	dxgi.dll!00007ffc965a64a9()	Unknown
 	dxgi.dll!00007ffc965f26a6()	Unknown
 	dxgi.dll!00007ffc965f2e23()	Unknown
 	dxgi.dll!00007ffc965c991e()	Unknown
 	dxgi.dll!00007ffc965b1f83()	Unknown
 	dxgi.dll!00007ffc965b1b64()	Unknown
 	Vk3DVision64.dll!00007ffc4251ba89()	Unknown
 	user32.dll!00007ffc9a4cf746()	Unknown
 	user32.dll!00007ffc9a4d1f83()	Unknown
 	ntdll.dll!00007ffc9aa9fde4()	Unknown
 	win32u.dll!00007ffc983f10c4()	Unknown
 	user32.dll!00007ffc9a4c94f2()	Unknown
 	user32.dll!00007ffc9a4c9ae9()	Unknown
 	Vk3DVision64.dll!00007ffc424fc1d5()	Unknown
 	mfc140.dll!00007ffc4cb9ab0f()	Unknown
 	mfc140.dll!00007ffc4cbcd160()	Unknown
 	DetroitBecomeHuman.exe!00007ff7d607f54f()	Unknown
 	kernel32.dll!00007ffc9a357bd4()	Unknown
 	ntdll.dll!00007ffc9aa6ce51()	Unknown

As you can see, there is some reentrancy (Vk3DVision64.dll appears twice) and d3d11 is busy trying to (re)create a resource

Post by **LukeRoss00** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:27 am

helifax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:11 am I somehow think your game resolution doesn't match with the Windows one...

As I mentioned, my desktop resolution is 1920x1080@120 and my monitor doesn't go higher than 120.

Post by **LukeRoss00** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:29 am

And here's the log if I do the disable/enable voodoo and the game crashes:

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16:28:33:264 [27848] | INFO  | Initializing Vk3DVision version '0.0.1.2212' (64-bit) built on '2020-07-22 13:00:40' loaded from "C:\ProgramData\Vk3DVision\Vk3DVision64.dll" into "C:\Program Files\Epic Games\DetroitBecomeHuman\DetroitBecomeHuman.exe" ...
16:28:33:403 [27848] | INFO  | Registering hooks for "user32.dll" ...
16:28:33:404 [27848] | INFO  | > Libraries loaded.
16:28:33:404 [27848] | INFO  | > Found 15 match(es). Installing ...
16:28:33:443 [27848] | INFO  | Registering hooks for "ws2_32.dll" ...
16:28:33:443 [27848] | INFO  | > Libraries loaded.
16:28:33:443 [27848] | INFO  | > Found 8 match(es). Installing ...
16:28:33:472 [27848] | INFO  | Initialized.
16:28:33:473 [27848] | INFO  | Redirecting vkCreateInstance(pCreateInfo = 00000023679EBA20, pAllocator = 0000000086EC7048, pInstance = 00000023679EBB80) ...
16:28:33:473 [27848] | INFO  | > Requesting new Vulkan instance for API version 1.1 ...
16:28:33:491 [27848] | INFO  | Redirecting vkCreateDevice(physicalDevice = 0000000086A1FBE0, pCreateInfo = 00000023679FE680, pAllocator = 0000000000000000, pDevice = 00000023679FE620) ...
16:28:33:792 [27848] | INFO  | Redirecting vkCreateWin32SurfaceKHR(instance = 0000000086EA6960, pCreateInfo = 00000023679FEAA8, pAllocator = 0000000000000000, pSurface = 0000000085A440E8) ...
16:28:33:795 [27848] | INFO  | Redirecting vkCreateSwapchainKHR(device = 0000000086EBAE60, pCreateInfo = 00000023679FEAD0, pAllocator = 0000000000000000, pSwapchain = 0000000085A440F0) ...
16:28:33:795 [27848] | INFO  | > Dumping swap chain description:
16:28:33:795 [27848] | INFO  |   +-----------------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+
16:28:33:795 [27848] | INFO  |   | Parameter                               | Value                                   |
16:28:33:795 [27848] | INFO  |   +-----------------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+
16:28:33:795 [27848] | INFO  |   | flags                                   | 0x4                                     |
16:28:33:795 [27848] | INFO  |   | surface                                 | 00000000859A2230                        |
16:28:33:795 [27848] | INFO  |   | minImageCount                           | 3                                       |
16:28:33:795 [27848] | INFO  |   | imageFormat                             | 44                                      |
16:28:33:795 [27848] | INFO  |   | imageColorSpace                         | 0                                       |
16:28:33:795 [27848] | INFO  |   | imageExtent                             | 1024                576                 |
16:28:33:795 [27848] | INFO  |   | imageArrayLayers                        | 1                                       |
16:28:33:795 [27848] | INFO  |   | imageUsage                              | 0x17                                    |
16:28:33:795 [27848] | INFO  |   | imageSharingMode                        | 0                                       |
16:28:33:795 [27848] | INFO  |   | queueFamilyIndexCount                   | 0                                       |
16:28:33:795 [27848] | INFO  |   | preTransform                            | 0x1                                     |
16:28:33:795 [27848] | INFO  |   | compositeAlpha                          | 0x1                                     |
16:28:33:795 [27848] | INFO  |   | presentMode                             | 2                                       |
16:28:33:795 [27848] | INFO  |   | clipped                                 | true                                    |
16:28:33:795 [27848] | INFO  |   | oldSwapchain                            | 0000000000000000                        |
16:28:33:795 [27848] | INFO  |   +-----------------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+
16:28:33:829 [27848] | INFO  | Running on GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Driver 451.48
16:28:33:844 [27848] | INFO  | Recreated runtime environment on runtime 000001A26B0980F0.
16:28:33:844 [27848] | INFO  | Nvidia Profile exe name:detroitbecomehuman.exe
16:28:34:255 [27848] | INFO  | Found NVIDIA existing Profile: Detroit: Become Human
16:28:34:255 [27848] | INFO  | Found NVIDIA Profile: Detroit: Become Human
16:28:34:255 [27848] | INFO  | 3D Vision Profile value found and is already set!
16:28:34:255 [27848] | ERROR | ERROR:Cannot save profile. Error code: -137
16:28:34:255 [27848] | ERROR | ERROR: Cannot update the existing profile with the 3D Vision flag !!!
16:28:36:799 [27848] | INFO  | Redirecting vkDestroySwapchainKHR(0000000086EBAE60, 0000000086E7F9D0, 0000000000000000) ...
16:28:36:799 [27848] | INFO  | Destroyed runtime environment on runtime 000001A26B0980F0.
16:28:36:802 [27848] | INFO  | Redirecting vkDestroySurfaceKHR(instance = 0000000086EA6960, surface = 00000000859A2230, pAllocator = 0000000000000000) ...
16:28:36:802 [27848] | INFO  | Redirecting vkCreateWin32SurfaceKHR(instance = 0000000086EA6960, pCreateInfo = 00000023679FF2F8, pAllocator = 0000000000000000, pSurface = 0000000085A440E8) ...
16:28:36:803 [27848] | INFO  | Redirecting vkCreateSwapchainKHR(device = 0000000086EBAE60, pCreateInfo = 00000023679FF320, pAllocator = 0000000000000000, pSwapchain = 0000000085A440F0) ...
16:28:36:803 [27848] | INFO  | > Dumping swap chain description:
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16:28:36:803 [27848] | INFO  |   | imageUsage                              | 0x17                                    |
16:28:36:803 [27848] | INFO  |   | imageSharingMode                        | 0                                       |
16:28:36:803 [27848] | INFO  |   | queueFamilyIndexCount                   | 0                                       |
16:28:36:803 [27848] | INFO  |   | preTransform                            | 0x1                                     |
16:28:36:803 [27848] | INFO  |   | compositeAlpha                          | 0x1                                     |
16:28:36:803 [27848] | INFO  |   | presentMode                             | 2                                       |
16:28:36:803 [27848] | INFO  |   | clipped                                 | true                                    |
16:28:36:803 [27848] | INFO  |   | oldSwapchain                            | 0000000000000000                        |
16:28:36:803 [27848] | INFO  |   +-----------------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+
16:28:36:805 [27848] | INFO  | Running on GeForce GTX 1080 Ti Driver 451.48
16:28:36:807 [27848] | INFO  | Recreated runtime environment on runtime 000001A22A2BEDA0.
16:28:36:807 [27848] | INFO  | Nvidia Profile exe name:detroitbecomehuman.exe
16:28:37:135 [27848] | INFO  | Found NVIDIA existing Profile: Detroit: Become Human
16:28:37:135 [27848] | INFO  | Found NVIDIA Profile: Detroit: Become Human
16:28:37:135 [27848] | INFO  | 3D Vision Profile value found and is already set!
16:28:37:135 [27848] | ERROR | ERROR:Cannot save profile. Error code: -137
16:28:37:135 [27848] | ERROR | ERROR: Cannot update the existing profile with the 3D Vision flag !!!

Post by **helifax** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:39 am

Thanks!
And your windows resolution is also set to 1920x1080 I believe. I don't see why switching to fullscreen would trigger that cascade...
I need to find a way to replicate this if I want to understand it...

Post by **helifax** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:43 am

Can you please try this: Direct Link : http://www.3dsurroundgaming.com/Vk3DVis ... Vision.exe
I am curious if it some sort of race condition...

Post by **LukeRoss00** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:49 am

helifax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:43 am Can you please try this: Direct Link : http://www.3dsurroundgaming.com/Vk3DVis ... Vision.exe
I am curious if it some sort of race condition...

Sorry, identical crash as the earlier versions

Post by **helifax** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:50 am

LukeRoss00 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:49 am
helifax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:43 am Can you please try this: Direct Link : http://www.3dsurroundgaming.com/Vk3DVis ... Vision.exe
I am curious if it some sort of race condition...
Sorry, identical crash as the earlier versions

Thanks. I need some way to reproduce this, as I have no idea what is causing it.

Post by **helifax** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:06 am

Can you please try this: http://www.3dsurroundgaming.com/Vk3DVis ... Vision.exe
I think this solves the access violation in CopyResource() that you are seeing. I was able to reproduce it a few time and it's definitely a race condition in my code (and I think I understand why it happens now).
Can you please test this and let me know if it works or you still get the crash & hang!

Thanks!
PS: Are you on discord? I think it will makes things a bit easier ^_^

Post by **Necropants** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:39 am

Have limited time to look into this deeply right now. (it's 3::30am) but wanted to give this a quick shot. I am getting a silent crash as the Nvidia green text comes up
Pretty sure I have meticulously followed the instructions. windows 10 pro 1809, but 451.67 driver (not DCH), 2080ti, Asus PG278QR steam version of the Demo.

Post by **helifax** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:41 am

Necropants wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:39 am Have limited time to look into this deeply right now. (it's 3::30am) but wanted to give this a quick shot. I am getting a silent crash as the Nvidia green text comes up
Pretty sure I have meticulously followed the instructions. windows 10 pro 1809, but 451.67 driver (not DCH), 2080ti, Asus PG278QR steam version of the Demo.

Can you download the exe from the above link and give it a quick go? I think that should solve the issue!
I would appreciate it if I know this is the problem ^_^

Post by **Ixomack** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:05 am

Sorry to bring bad news but it still does not work for me.

When it works (when VK3Dvision is off), I have the following:
- black screen -> blue cursor for the mouse -> Nvidia geforce experience message that appears on the top right for 2 sec -> white screen with the menu of the game

When it does not work (like now), I have the following:
- black screen -> blue cursor for the mouse -> Nvidia geforce experience message that appears on the top right for 2 sec -> nothing else

I have to kill the task to get out of the black screen.
I have a 1080 GPU and my resolution is 1440p.

Post by **helifax** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:07 am

Ixomack wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:05 am Sorry to bring bad news but it still does not work for me.

When it works, I have the following:
- black screen -> blue cursor for the mouse -> Nvidia geforce experience message that appears on the top right for 2 sec -> white screen with the menu of the game

When it does not work (like now), I have the following:
- black screen -> blue cursor for the mouse -> Nvidia geforce experience message that appears on the top right for 2 sec -> nothing else

I have to kill the task to get out of the black screen.

So sometimes it works for you and sometimes it doesn't?

Post by **Ixomack** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:08 am

No sorry, I meant "when it works (when VK3DVision is off)"

Post by **helifax** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:09 am

Ixomack wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:08 am No sorry, I meant "when it works (when VK3DVision is off)"

You use the same resolution both in-game and in windows right?

Post by **helifax** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:13 am

Can you please try this: http://www.3dsurroundgaming.com/Vk3DVis ... Vision.exe

It shouldn't crash or hang, but the image will be black. 3D Vision should start and you should hear music in the background (once you get to the menu).
I am trying to narrow down and see where the issue is

Post by **Ixomack** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:19 am

I use the same resolution which is 1440p. I checked again to make sure.
Sorry, but I got the same result with your latest file.

Post by **helifax** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:24 am

Ixomack wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:19 am I use the same resolution which is 1440p. I checked again to make sure.
Sorry, but I got the same result with your latest file.

Did you hear the sound in the background this time? There shouldn't be anything visible in this version.

Post by **Ixomack** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:26 am

Nope, no sound at all for me.

Post by **Ixomack** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:48 am

No wait, I restarted my computer and i got the sound !!
The annoying thing is that i can't kill the process anymore and have to log out to get out of it.

Post by **Ixomack** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:51 am

Ok, i tried again and Detroit won't even start.
I guess i have to reboot my computer each time i want to try a fix of yours.

Post by **helifax** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:51 am

Ixomack wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:48 am No wait, I restarted my computer and i got the sound !!
The annoying thing is that i can't kill the process anymore and have to log out to get out of it.

Right!
Can you please try this: http://www.3dsurroundgaming.com/Vk3DVis ... Vision.exe

I made a few changes. I am curious is it still crashes. It will take a while for 3D Vision to kick in (around 1-2 minutes). I am curious if this will work

Another thing that might be interesting to try out is to delete the Detroit profile and see if this makes a difference.

I am running both DCH & Standard drivers with GFE installed and enabled on 3 machines and I can't really replicate this issue...
Not sure if this will help but it might be interesting to try out

Post by **helifax** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:52 am

Ixomack wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:51 am Ok, i tried again and Detroit won't even start.
I guess i have to reboot my computer each time i want to try a fix of yours.

You should be able to ALT+TAB open Task manager and ALT+E to kill the task. This is exclusive fullscreen for you!

Post by **Ixomack** » Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:03 am

Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. My next task is to find out why.
I'll try your updated fix.