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http://gamingbolt.com/former-activision ... ple-digits

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...not sure what our pricing will be yet but it would not surprise me if it had three digits in front of the decimal place.
Not surprise me? Who says that? I've never heard a member of the company saying "it would not surprise me" when talking about a product of the company.

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Yes, the state of gaming "journalism" concerns me greatly.
It would seem this author thinks the Rift is a gaming console, seeing as Sony, MS and Valve are mentioned as competitors.


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Yes, the state of gaming "journalism" concerns me greatly.
It would seem this author thinks the Rift is a gaming console, seeing as Sony, MS and Valve are mentioned as competitors.



"We wait for Sony and Microsoft to officially announce more details. We have to compete in that space" - Oculus COO :P


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Kazioo wrote:
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Yes, the state of gaming "journalism" concerns me greatly.
It would seem this author thinks the Rift is a gaming console, seeing as Sony, MS and Valve are mentioned as competitors.



"We wait for Sony and Microsoft to officially announce more details. We have to compete in that space" - Oculus COO :P


I can only hope that by saying 'we have to compete in that space' that he means on that caliber. My biggest concern is price point. From his quote the Oculus could be priced anywhere from $100 to $999. I fear he will try to price it too high to make a premium price line up with the universal praise it is getting.

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A bit more level-headed article: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2 ... -oculus-vr

"The price point of the Oculus Rift is likely to be in the range of the cost of a new console or a tablet. Effectively, then the Oculus Rift will be competing against similarly priced hardware for gamers' dollars." From the article, not new COO. Sounds a lot more comforting than "3 digits" which out of context to us with bad math (self included) sounds like three figures--a grand.

I hate to jump to conclusions because I don't know the guy, but Activision is one of my least favorite companies, and their business strategy working with Blizzard, up until recently one of my favorite companies, made for some really unethical business-over-game-design choices. Skylanders is in the same dry manipulative money-hungry boat in my opinion. Maybe a little compromise needs to be made to get to big markets with big hardware, but I'm still concerned about the "open-sourceness" spirit going forward.

Not panicking yet, since its hardware and not software with microtransactions and sequels bled dry. Also, the more big name firepower, the more likely there will be big name game support day one, so it's obviously a good move. Now's the time we flail about until Palmer reminds us everything's a-okay.

Edit: Augh, I'm so prejudiced, looks like I may have gotten the wrong idea. From his personal website: "After nearly 17 years, I decided to focus on a problem that has been plaguing our country for years: K-12 Education in America. I've started as a consultant working to bring my knowledge and experience to the ed space. My clients include major foundations and smaller start ups. I am also adjunct faculty in USC’s Interactive Media Division of the School of Cinematic Arts, allowing me to enter projects from either a business or research perspective."


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Kazioo wrote:
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Yes, the state of gaming "journalism" concerns me greatly.
It would seem this author thinks the Rift is a gaming console, seeing as Sony, MS and Valve are mentioned as competitors.



"We wait for Sony and Microsoft to officially announce more details. We have to compete in that space" - Oculus COO :P


I think they mean that they want details on Sony and Microsoft's next consoles so that the Oculus Rift can be integrated into them. On the OR's FAQ they show the desire to work on major console platforms. Competing with Playstation or Xbox would be like saying, I have a 32'' LCD screen, and I want to compete with a gaming platform.

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Delryn wrote:
I think they mean that they want details on Sony and Microsoft's next consoles so that the Oculus Rift can be integrated into them. On the OR's FAQ they show the desire to work on major console platforms. Competing with Playstation or Xbox would be like saying, I have a 32'' LCD screen, and I want to compete with a gaming platform.

In this context, as quoted in unsilentwill's article, it means competing in dollars spent for similarly priced luxury items.


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I think they mean that they want details on Sony and Microsoft's next consoles so that the Oculus Rift can be integrated into them. On the OR's FAQ they show the desire to work on major console platforms. Competing with Playstation or Xbox would be like saying, I have a 32'' LCD screen, and I want to compete with a gaming platform.

In this context, as quoted in unsilentwill's article, it means competing in dollars spent for similarly priced luxury items.


I suppose so, but it just makes it sound like OR is trying to be a console. Also you get the feeling that OR is competing with Valve instead of working directly with them.

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Oculus VR, Inc, COO and Member of the Board of Directors, Irvine, CA
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In charge of all operational aspect of virtual reality gaming start up company, Oculus VR. Overseeing
legal, finance, IT, logistics, hardware and HR functions for 20 person Kickstarted company that creates
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I hate to succumb to hype, but in an attempt to keep people from being to upset about the delay: Imagine an HMD with a massive field of view and more pixels than 1080p per eye, wireless PC link, built in absolute head and hand/weapon/wand positioning, and native integration with some (if not all) of the major game engines, all for less than $1,000 USD. That can happen in 2013!


That was a quote from Palmer many months ago (pre-Kickstarter). The delay he was talking about was the delay to getting the Kickstarter going.

But I remember being floored at the prospect of an HMD that could do all of that. I immediately started getting myself emotionally prepared to shell out ALMOST four digits for it. If the consumer Rift does come with all of the specs listed above would you pay upper 3 digits for it?


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Then when we go to consumer next year, I believe there are a number of ways to approach this. There are a number of consumer shows that we'll attend, we'll spend a lot of time there. There are demonstration opportunities; you'll see us at E3, and then we hope people in the press will help evangelize that it's worth checking out the product at a retailer


Seems to imply that christmas 2014 will be the target for the consumer version.


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"We wait for Sony and Microsoft to officially announce more details."


I'm sure it's about the specs of their new consoles, if VR will be possible on those platforms or not. I don't think so if the rumored specs are true. Considering that you'd need a beefy GPU for the 1080p Rift consumer version and the specs of the consoles not changing in the future. New is xbox is rumored to have a HD7770 equivalent (1.2TF).


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I just really hope they stay close to the SDK's $300 price point. If they try to price it too high I fear it will be DOA. I want VR to succeed and become ubiquitous, I've wanted that ever since I first tried VR 20 years ago.

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I just really hope they stay close to the SDK's $300 price point. If they try to price it too high I fear it will be DOA. I want VR to succeed and become ubiquitous, I've wanted that ever since I first tried VR 20 years ago.


The new consoles will be about 399$, same as a Nexus10 tablet, i think that's about the price you can expect considering the higher res screen in the consumer version (i hope they don't ditch the higher res screen to be compatible with consoles though)


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My pricing and release date desires:

Late fall/early winter 2013 release, with price options depending on desired resolution, from 300$ at current res, up to 600$ for higher res.

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I like this guy. His understanding of the potential seems to line up well with the rest of the team. Palmer has stated over and over again here and elsewhere that Oculus is aiming to price the consumer version similar to the dev kit or potentially even less. If they were to sell millions of units with dev kit specs, I wouldn't be surprised if they could price it $99 or a little less and still make at least a little profit. Who knows, maybe they will release a low-end consumer version, but it seems that their main goal is to find a nice balance between capabilities and price point to build a compelling product that millions of people want and can afford.


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STRZ wrote:
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I just really hope they stay close to the SDK's $300 price point. If they try to price it too high I fear it will be DOA. I want VR to succeed and become ubiquitous, I've wanted that ever since I first tried VR 20 years ago.


The new consoles will be about 399$, same as a Nexus10 tablet, i think that's about the price you can expect considering the higher res screen in the consumer version (i hope they don't ditch the higher res screen to be compatible with consoles though)



The PS3 was $599 when it first came out. I think the PS4 and XboxWhatever will be closer to that price point than what Nintendo priced the WiiU

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The PS3 was $599 when it first came out. I think the PS4 and XboxWhatever will be closer to that price point than what Nintendo priced the WiiU


PS3 at $599 nearly killed it. While it'll be more expensive than the WiiU simply because the WiiU doesn't have powerful hardware, I'm predicting around $499 for both the next Xbox and Playstation.

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The PS3 was $599 when it first came out. I think the PS4 and XboxWhatever will be closer to that price point than what Nintendo priced the WiiU


The current gen consoles had higher end, and more expensive hardware built in when they came out, closer to top tier PC specs at the time than the next gen will have, they go for cheap with the next gen to fit into the pricerange of the last years.


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The current gen consoles had higher end, and more expensive hardware built in when they came out, closer to top tier PC specs at the time than the next gen will have, they go for cheap with the next gen to fit into the pricerange of the last years.


I agree. From what I've seen of next gen consoles, they will be at least one generation behind the latest graphics cards as it stands now. RAM and HDDs have gotten cheaper. Not sure about the CPU. If they sell at a loss, 499$ is a reasonable starting point.

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Oculus isn't competing against any product, except vaguely the hmz-t1.


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Oculus isn't competing against any product, except vaguely the hmz-t1.


German made a good point. It is inherently competing with similarly priced luxury items. The competition being: I want to spend 3-500$ on a luxury electronic item that will entertain me. I can only buy one. Maybe two.

It's not competing directly with anything (which is good), but it suffers from being a peripheral (like the hydra).

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The current gen consoles had higher end, and more expensive hardware built in when they came out, closer to top tier PC specs at the time than the next gen will have, they go for cheap with the next gen to fit into the pricerange of the last years.


I agree. From what I've seen of next gen consoles, they will be at least one generation behind the latest graphics cards as it stands now. RAM and HDDs have gotten cheaper. Not sure about the CPU. If they sell at a loss, 499$ is a reasonable starting point.


The'll both use a AMD Kabini (low power) APU architecture (CPU and GPU integrated on one chip) as it stands now. 8core CPU @ 1.6ghz + integrated "Bonaire HD8xxx" graphics equivalent of the HD7770 (1200GFLOPS) for the new xbox, and something slightly more powerful for the PS4 in the range of a HD7850 (1800 GFLOPS). I don't think that they'll sell at a loss like the last time because this stuff is cheap, especially in large quantities.

They can squeeze more out of this hardware than PC programmers because they don't need to worry about scalability with other hardware, but it doesn't change the fact that it would be pretty much entry level hardware. You'll be very limited with polygon count, and for a big open world this would be bad. If you're in VR, you don't want details popping up when you're close, you need depth. 1080p stereoscopy @ 60 FPS in an open world will be nearly impossible.


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Well before all this Rift business, I've said that I'd pay up to maybe $1,200 for a legit wide FOV HMD. Most people would not (or could not) spend that kind of money on, what some people would call, a "toy". Palmer has said he wanted to keep the device affordable, which is why the dev-kits were only $300. If the consumer version can be around that same price I think it will do very well.

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Well before all this Rift business, I've said that I'd pay up to maybe $1,200 for a legit wide FOV HMD. Most people would not (or could not) spend that kind of money on, what some people would call, a "toy". Palmer has said he wanted to keep the device affordable, which is why the dev-kits were only $300. If the consumer version can be around that same price I think it will do very well.


You've nailed my situation down. I couldn't afford a $1,200 HMD, but $3-500 is definitely within the cards. Although, I'm a PC Gamer, and have been known to blow money on fancy GPUs and liquid cooling.

My girlfriend is less hardcore (less money to spend) with PC Gaming, but she said she would happily invest in an OR if she can try mine first.

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This really gives some bad vibes for me. Activision Blizzard has been very eagerly destroying the legacy that Blizzard has created over the decades. All what happened to Diablo 3 and how everything is made for maximizing profit, you just see the loss of true gamer spirit in the company and corporate attitude of milking the people off their money.

This really looks very very conserning in respect to OR and this fellas immediate reactions to try haul the $$$ higher than Palmer estimated (Max profit priority one and killing of anything good). This is really bad news In my humble opinnion. It feels like the whole thing about Palmer and Oculus was too good to be true, and now is the time for reality.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmes ... _id=128252

I truly hope Im wrong on my instinct on this one :shock:

PS. I know I may be over reacting. But I also know that apple does not fall far from the tree... I have a bad feeling about this


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This really looks very very conserning in respect to OR and this fellas immediate reactions to try haul the $$$ higher than Palmer estimated (Max profit priority one and killing of anything good). This is really bad news In my humble opinnion. It feels like the whole thing about Palmer and Oculus was too good to be true, and now is the time for reality.


This may sound very ignorant, but I don't have time to read the thing you posted. Could you provide a tl;dr version?

If you think that the original GIBiz article is saying that the price is going to increase dramatically, I wouldn't worry. They won't really try to monetize on the OR unless it becomes a phenomenal hit. Then you can start to worry. Until then, I think we can expect a $3-400 consumer price range.

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Delryn wrote:

This may sound very ignorant, but I don't have time to read the thing you posted. Could you provide a tl;dr version.


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“When people come up and tell me, ‘how can you possibly make another Call of Duty,’ I always tell them that I used to work for a company that every year had to figure out how to make a white shirt whiter,” Tippl said. “And [Procter & Gamble] have been doing that for 35 years with a product like Tide.”

He continued, “You’re telling me with all the opportunities we have, and the technologies and the content ... and all the different stories, the characters that we can develop, that we can’t innovate on a franchise for 10 years? Give me a break. Then we’re just not doing our job.”
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February 28, 2010: A fan project called “King’s Quest 9 – The Silver Lining” is being terminated by Activision, shortly before its release. You could say… sure this always happens, but this time it was a bit different.

The team of hobby-developers, which started working on the project back in 2002 (about 8 years ago) and got a cease-and-desist from Vivendi Universal in 2005, managed to negotiate a deal for a “non-commercial fan license”, which allowed them to develop and publish “The Silver Lining” after all.
2010, nearly done with the work on the project, they handed in a copy for review as agreed in said contract, upon which (the rights to it now belonging to Activision) Activision decided it had no interest in doing anything of the likes and sent another cease-and-desist instead, forcing them to take down their website and forums and to stop working on the project immediately, which they had to do.


That spirit runs in their blood. And its very far from the spirit what Palmer has.


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“When people come up and tell me, ‘how can you possibly make another Call of Duty,’ I always tell them that I used to work for a company that every year had to figure out how to make a white shirt whiter,” Tippl said. “And [Procter & Gamble] have been doing that for 35 years with a product like Tide.”

He continued, “You’re telling me with all the opportunities we have, and the technologies and the content ... and all the different stories, the characters that we can develop, that we can’t innovate on a franchise for 10 years? Give me a break. Then we’re just not doing our job.”


That spirit runs in their blood. And its very far from the spirit what Palmer has.


Do you mean Kotick's spirit, or Tippl's spirit?

I think Palmer is very energetic, and eager to get his technology used in innovative ways. Ways he can't even imagine. Media impressions paint Palmer as a young guy talking about his favorite hobby in the world with the utmost enthusiasm. That sounds good to me.

I think he understands that now is not the time to monetize on VR. Like many companies before him, he has to get his product out there and create a market, not turn a profit. If the Rift can catch on, then we can worry about this situation. I'd rather worry about the Rift not evolving and simply making big bucks. Right now I'm worried about the Rift not catching on.

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I think he understands that now is not the time to monetize on VR. Like many companies before him, he has to get his product out there and create a market, not turn a profit. If the Rift can catch on, then we can worry about this situation. I'd rather worry about the Rift not evolving and simply making big bucks. Right now I'm worried about the Rift not catching on.


I so much hope that you are correct :)


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You can't honestly try to blame everything that may have happened to Activision-Blizzard on a VP. Business direction is primarily the duty of the CEO and board of directors. Anyway, his job is likely to determine what is economically viable and the best way to pursue it. Expensive hardware can only sell if there's an established support base. For instance, a magical $1,000 computer mouse has a lot more potential in a market when it's compatible with software just like any other mouse. However, if that said mouse required software companies to specifically support it in order to work at all, then its market potential would be substantially lower. Yes, Oculus could try to sell the Rift for $10k, but that's not within the realm of the consumer market that they're targeting.

The way I interpreted him stating that the cost would likely be in the 3 figure range is that they may have actually considered an even lower price point like I mentioned earlier in this thread. If they can manage to get a low-end consumer model with similar specs to the dev kit at a price of around $100, they may just have the hottest selling computer gaming peripheral from a single manufacturer ever. In fact, selling one with a relatively low profit margin might be their best chance of selling higher-end flagship models with greater profit margins, because a large core user base ensures that the software support will be there. They also wouldn't have the risk of a lower model cannibalizing the sales of their better models if they have substantially better features.


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You can't honestly try to blame everything that may have happened to Activision-Blizzard on a VP. Business direction is primarily the duty of the CEO and board of directors. Anyway, his job is likely to determine what is economically viable and the best way to pursue it. Expensive hardware can only sell if there's an established support base. For instance, a magical $1,000 computer mouse has a lot more potential in a market when it's compatible with software just like any other mouse. However, if that said mouse required software companies to specifically support it in order to work at all, then its market potential would be substantially lower. Yes, Oculus could try to sell the Rift for $10k, but that's not within the realm of the consumer market that they're targeting.

The way I interpreted him stating that the cost would likely be in the 3 figure range is that they may have actually considered an even lower price point like I mentioned earlier in this thread. If they can manage to get a low-end consumer model with similar specs to the dev kit at a price of around $100, they may just have the hottest selling computer gaming peripheral from a single manufacturer ever. In fact, selling one with a relatively low profit margin might be their best chance of selling higher-end flagship models with greater profit margins, because a large core user base ensures that the software support will be there. They also wouldn't have the risk of a lower model cannibalizing the sales of their better models if they have substantially better features.



I don't see this thing costing $100 any time soon. $300 to me is the bottom end, even with a lower resolution screen. $100 is a pipe dream where it stands now. Maybe 2-3 years from now

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Believe me, this is nothing but good news. Laird is a fantastic guy, and I would not have hired him if he were not a perfect fit for Oculus. He is a professor in USC's Advanced Games course, and mentored/guided Project Holodeck. He has a skill that, frankly, we lacked as a company: Getting a consumer product into the hands of as many people as possible.

If this guy were in it for the money, he had plenty of options that don't involve moving to a scrappy startup! :lol: We would not have hired him if we thought his vision was different than ours, and his position as COO still reports to me at the end of the day. If I don't want to go in a particular direction, then we don't.

We want to make a great headset that gamers can afford, not a luxury item. We know what happens when you launch a consumer product at $599, no need to repeat history.


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Believe me, this is nothing but good news. Laird is a fantastic guy, and I would not have hired him if he were not a perfect fit for Oculus. He is a professor in USC's Advanced Games course, and mentored/guided Project Holodeck. He has a skill that, frankly, we lacked as a company: Getting a consumer product into the hands of as many people as possible.

If this guy were in it for the money, he had plenty of options that don't involve moving to a scrappy startup! :lol: We would not have hired him if we thought his vision was different than ours, and his position as COO still reports to me at the end of the day. If I don't want to go in a particular direction, then we don't.

We want to make a great headset that gamers can afford, not a luxury item. We know what happens when you launch a consumer product at $599, no need to repeat history.



This is great news and alleviates my fears. My dad started his own company about 30 years ago, it went public and got fairly large. Some members of the Board of Directors wanted to take the company's main project and spin it off to a subsidiary that they would own privately and reap all the benefits. My dad fought against a lot of them and ended up being kicked out of the company that he started. I just hope this doesn't happen to you, that was my main concern. This is your project and your product. I'm always rooting for the creative people

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SartreFan wrote:
MSat wrote:
You can't honestly try to blame everything that may have happened to Activision-Blizzard on a VP. Business direction is primarily the duty of the CEO and board of directors. Anyway, his job is likely to determine what is economically viable and the best way to pursue it. Expensive hardware can only sell if there's an established support base. For instance, a magical $1,000 computer mouse has a lot more potential in a market when it's compatible with software just like any other mouse. However, if that said mouse required software companies to specifically support it in order to work at all, then its market potential would be substantially lower. Yes, Oculus could try to sell the Rift for $10k, but that's not within the realm of the consumer market that they're targeting.

The way I interpreted him stating that the cost would likely be in the 3 figure range is that they may have actually considered an even lower price point like I mentioned earlier in this thread. If they can manage to get a low-end consumer model with similar specs to the dev kit at a price of around $100, they may just have the hottest selling computer gaming peripheral from a single manufacturer ever. In fact, selling one with a relatively low profit margin might be their best chance of selling higher-end flagship models with greater profit margins, because a large core user base ensures that the software support will be there. They also wouldn't have the risk of a lower model cannibalizing the sales of their better models if they have substantially better features.



I don't see this thing costing $100 any time soon. $300 to me is the bottom end, even with a lower resolution screen. $100 is a pipe dream where it stands now. Maybe 2-3 years from now


If you were aware of the approximate pricing of components used in the Rift, particularly when purchased in large volumes, you would see that it is indeed possible to come very close to the $100 price range. The LCD panel is likely the most expensive component by a large margin. It may not be the perfect metric, but if you look at the bill of material for the Kindle Fire HD, the display which should be similar to the one used in the Rift dev kit (minus touch screen and related circuitry) costs ~$64. The rest of the components are quite cheap by comparison. You're right, it might take a year or two to get below $100, but around the time the consumer version is set to ship, a $120-175 low-end model should be quite possible. Even if it does take a couple years, wouldn't a cheap version be a good thing?


Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:33 pm
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Two Eyed Hopeful

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SartreFan wrote:
PalmerTech wrote:
Believe me, this is nothing but good news. Laird is a fantastic guy, and I would not have hired him if he were not a perfect fit for Oculus. He is a professor in USC's Advanced Games course, and mentored/guided Project Holodeck. He has a skill that, frankly, we lacked as a company: Getting a consumer product into the hands of as many people as possible.

If this guy were in it for the money, he had plenty of options that don't involve moving to a scrappy startup! :lol: We would not have hired him if we thought his vision was different than ours, and his position as COO still reports to me at the end of the day. If I don't want to go in a particular direction, then we don't.

We want to make a great headset that gamers can afford, not a luxury item. We know what happens when you launch a consumer product at $599, no need to repeat history.



This is great news and alleviates my fears. My dad started his own company about 30 years ago, it went public and got fairly large. Some members of the Board of Directors wanted to take the company's main project and spin it off to a subsidiary that they would own privately and reap all the benefits. My dad fought against a lot of them and ended up being kicked out of the company that he started. I just hope this doesn't happen to you, that was my main concern. This is your project and your product. I'm always rooting for the creative people


How does that even happen? Was he tricked like in "The Social Network" or something?


Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:37 pm
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Binocular Vision CONFIRMED!

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Grix wrote:
How does that even happen? Was he tricked like in "The Social Network" or something?

It went public. The board hires(and fires) the CEO. The owners are the shareholders which the board reports to.


Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:39 pm
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Golden Eyed Wiseman! (or woman!)

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PalmerTech wrote:
Believe me, this is nothing but good news. Laird is a fantastic guy, and I would not have hired him if he were not a perfect fit for Oculus. He is a professor in USC's Advanced Games course, and mentored/guided Project Holodeck. He has a skill that, frankly, we lacked as a company: Getting a consumer product into the hands of as many people as possible.

If this guy were in it for the money, he had plenty of options that don't involve moving to a scrappy startup! :lol: We would not have hired him if we thought his vision was different than ours, and his position as COO still reports to me at the end of the day. If I don't want to go in a particular direction, then we don't.

We want to make a great headset that gamers can afford, not a luxury item. We know what happens when you launch a consumer product at $599, no need to repeat history.



I'm really glad that you have assembled a killer team, Palmer. So many people have been waiting for affordable VR, so it's important that you have everything and everyone you need to make it right, now that you got the wheels turning. Make it happen, dude! We're rooting for you! :D


Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:44 pm
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Two Eyed Hopeful

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Interesting, http://www.projectholodeck.com/demo-day ... re-updates.

Wild Skies sounds cool. ;)

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