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Seen Prometheus in 3D Last Week

Was this an Alien Prequel? Well what can i say from plot to so many things and in end one offspring Yes it Must be but Yet no Not Exactly

How Was Movie?

Good Cinemetography, Nice Locations, Adventurous and Atomspheric but BAD STORY what exactly ruined the magic is director's Asumption of you the viewer knowing things which were never told to you like

1) Why Creator Engineers Left Star Map in Wall Paintings?

2) Why that map was of some Mass Distruction Weapon Storage Area or Transit Point rather then their own planet?

3) Why Creators want to end Humenity when at first place they only created?

4) Why Weyland Need to hide he is Travelling on same ship, when he only funded all this madness?

5) What are the backgrounds of charaters, how they endup on ship?

6) Why Murals depicting Aliens was already in chamber with Stone Head when first alien born at end of all events

7) Why Robot Michael Fassbender Spiked drink of Noomi's BF with Dark Matter SLIME when he does not had done any visible harm to him?

8) Why the hell that "Dark Matter Slime" act totally random and unpredicatbly unique way produce first all life on earth,Then some earthworm python, then squid baby and again at end Alien?

So many LOOP HOLES that can Acomodate DARK HOLE in story killed joy of GOOD CGI movie

Hows in 3D?

1) Neat and clean actual 3D

2) No ghosting or doubling Nice bright Projection (Thanks Cinemax + Real D)

3) Excellent cinematic of reaching on planet and landing

4) Amazing spooky Caesarean at Mass Effect like MedBay

Worth Watching?

Of course in 3D

CAUTION: Do not try to Apply Logic and put your Analytical part of brain to sleep enjouy cinematics and some stupid goofups but NO LOGIC Applied

Found Nice & Fundoo review
Of course not from 3D point of view but tried to solve questiones arised as he also have same one, Now thats Globalization!!!

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I watched this about a fortnight ago, but came out with different questions to you. My questions are really wanting to know more about what this movie has opened up.
The questions that you have asked, I think were mostly explained (or can be explained), so I will put my thoughts regarding them and let me know what you think:
'Was this an Alien Prequel? Well what can i say from plot to so many things and in end one offspring Yes it Must be but Yet no Not Exactly '
ANSWER: It is an Alien prequel, but it is not the same ship or planet as Alien. For starters, you can see totally different landscape on alien to Prometheus. In Alien, the background you see has large arching structures, whereas Prometheus has jaggared mountains along the sides of the 'valley' where the ships are. Also (I wasn't sure during the movie), but the name of the planet is different to that mentioned in the other movies. The last pointer is the engineer is not in his seat when the ship crashes on Prometheus, whereas in Alien, the engineer is in his navigator chair and a chest buster wound.

1) Why Creator Engineers Left Star Map in Wall Paintings?
ANSWER: At the end of the movie we still don't know the sequence leading up to this point. This seems to me to be the beginning of a quest to determine our origin, so is likely to be revealed in the following movies.

2) Why that map was of some Mass Distruction Weapon Storage Area or Transit Point rather then their own planet?
ANSWER: The star map was pointing to a star system. We then surveyed the star system and took a guess as to which planed it would be, which turned out to be a military outpost. We don't know if the star map is for, but there was indication that it could be a warning, rather then an invitation in the movie.

3) Why Creators want to end Humenity when at first place they only created?
ANSWER: There are lots of possible reasons for this. They have seen what we have become and decided that we were a mistake or our planet is a testing ground for different biological weapons. ie. we were originally designed as a weapon, but aren't strong enough. Either way, the point to be seems to be that this is the beginnings of the journey.

4) Why Weyland Need to hide he is Travelling on same ship, when he only funded all this madness?
ANSWER: I thought this was explained. He was only days away from death, and so stayed in cryostasis as much as possible to prolong his life with the possibility that our creators would hold the key to extending his life.

5) What are the backgrounds of charaters, how they endup on ship?
ANSWER: Like the first two Alien(s) movies, this is unexplained and doesn't make a lot of sense. You find out that each seem to be specialists in some area (engineer, medico, marine, etc) but the backgrounds are usually left up to the imagination. I'm not a huge fan of this.

6) Why Murals depicting Aliens was already in chamber with Stone Head when first alien born at end of all events
ANSWER: Can you be sure that this is the first time the Alien has been created? They have obviously been developing this for considerable time, and the assumption is that they would have done experiments with it. The basics of the Alien is consistent and given that we are basically the same genetics as the engineers, if one of the engineers was fused with the alien DNA, then the result would essentially be the same.

7) Why Robot Michael Fassbender Spiked drink of Noomi's BF with Dark Matter SLIME when he does not had done any visible harm to him?
ANSWER: He was curious to see what would happen. Like a kid with a magnifying glass and some ants on a hot day. He wanted to know what it was all about. At the end, he is wanting to keep going to find the origin since it may answer questions he seems to have about his own existence. He doesn't have moral qualms about sacrificing a human but an unquenchable thirst for knowledge.

8) Why the hell that "Dark Matter Slime" act totally random and unpredicatbly unique way produce first all life on earth,Then some earthworm python, then squid baby and again at end Alien?
ANSWER: When the alien DNA (then "Dark Matter Slime" that is in the vases at the start) is fused with the DNA of another species, the result is essentially an alien that has characteristics of whatever it was fused with. When it fused with the little worm thing that they zoomed in on shortly after they entered the chamber, it formed a weird worm like thing. When it fused with a human, it started forming 4 limbs, etc. I'm still not sure about the life cycle of the alien, but the basics is that the alien DNA and another species DNA fuse and create an alien version of whatever 'gave birth' to it.

'So many LOOP HOLES that can Acomodate DARK HOLE in story killed joy of GOOD CGI movie'
I am a bit of a fan of the alien movies, so it's hard for me to be totally subjective and impossible for me to consider how this movie would be on its' own if I hadn't seen the others. While there are a lot of unanswered questions, I didn't feel it killed the joy of the movie. I don't like some of the characters (trying to keep the same kind of group of misfits as the first two movies seemed a bit like its stuck in the 80's) but overall I like the kind of exploration and ideas about origin. More then any of the questions you have asked, I have to wonder about Dinosaurs.

As for the 3D:
I thought it was a bit of a mixed bag. It was as if it was filmed by two different people, one who knew 3D and one who didn't:
- The landscapes were some of the best and most immersive that I have seen outside of imax.
- Many of the close up scenes were great. I find that most movies there is little to no 3D seen on character close ups, whereas in this, there were some close ups that were fantastic. This meant that the ones that didn't have depth really stood out. I have mentioned this before - I think that they need to be careful and NOT USE ZOOM to get closer to characters... they need to mover the camera closer or else you lose the depth.
- The first 15-20 min of this film is great in 3D! You must see this in a big cinema though... Neil, I'm looking at you here, go to a cinema where you know the projectionists know what they are doing. The environments really have a nice sense of scale to them and a lot less like the mountains are only 3 feet behind the screen then most movies.

I'd love to know what others felt about this movie, especially if you haven't seen the others so you can comment on this as a stand alone movie.
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Hmm... I thought it was pretty good actually. The 3D was nice, and the movie was overall entertaining. Yes, you are left with questions but you usually are with good movies.
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cybereality wrote:Hmm... I thought it was pretty good actually. The 3D was nice, and the movie was overall entertaining. Yes, you are left with questions but you usually are with good movies.
Can I plus one this? lol
How did you feel about the close ups? Did you notice the seemingly great difference between some close ups and others that bothered me?
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I was pretty disapppointed, expected more.
3d was weak (weaker than Avatar, hell, weaker than The Avengers which was post production), the vehicles felt like they lacked solidity, the plot was unnecessarily complex, the characters were unlikeable or poorly developed, and the only ones with any character got killed off the soonest.

Nothing was explained. Just like Matrix 2 & 3, it feels like a good potential plot was squandered.
IMHO, it was definitely not a high point of the Alien series, I find both Alien and Aliens to be better movies.
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WiredEarp wrote:...the vehicles felt like they lacked solidity...
Good point. They really need to stop building all the prop vehicles out of chewing gum and balsa wood. I would have thought that the bugdet of this movie would afford it some decent props that at least look like they won't fall apart if the wind blows too hard.
I had the same problem with the latest two batman movies too though.
Didn't stop me enjoying the movie though, just made me laugh.
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Well the 3D wasn't earth-shattering, they could have pushed it further (just like basically every other movie). But it was at least true dual-camera stereo, not that conversion BS. Watching some of the 3D previews, it seems like newer movies will be pushing the 3D further so that's a good thing.
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The strange thing is that the converted stereo (and I know the technical limitations of converted stereo) actually seemed stronger in many scenes in The Avengers than in this movie.

@ android78: thats exactly it! it almost reminded me of the original star trek and the way the sets would shake :)
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7)ANSWER: He was curious to see what would happen. Like a kid with a magnifying glass and some ants on a hot day. He wanted to know what it was all about. At the end, he is wanting to keep going to find the origin since it may answer questions he seems to have about his own existence. He doesn't have moral qualms about sacrificing a human but an unquenchable thirst for knowledge.

Spiking would be justified if Weylend would have done it in search of Ageing Antidote or Asked his Daughter Chariese Theron to do so (again in search of Ageing Antidote for Father)

For Fassbender it was not serach of his creators or purpose of his existance as he can always ask to know his purpose from Waylend who Created him or leaset Ordered to Create him, it wasn't his quest for his makers!!!

This could also be justified if Redly Scott added scene where Waylend ask Fassbender to test it on some crew to know its effect(Still worst idea!) how can he do so on his own even if not fitted with moral code. (Then he should have also done Power Cut in Ship or Shut Down cryostasis incubators of crew when they were in stasis sleep just to see what happens!)

But keeping Many Many Things on Viewers and Consider they themself will make picture out of puzzle pieces, well A Bad IdeA
(Even if view to make them be more curious about what will happen next? what was back ground? Paving way for another Prequel Prequel or Prequel Siquel Ha Ha!!)

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Yes, you are left with questions but you usually are with good movies.

of course if you would have said so for "INCEPTION" where though there were mind twisters but nothing important was left untold but Prometheus what about BLACK HOLES in SCRIPT? its not intelligent

Again Did i LIKED Movie?

Very much YES for its Cinemetography, True 3D (Shot in 3D) and may be my liking for spcae adventures.

DID i EnJOYED it? No...( In terms i can say for time being in movie hall i Lived AVATAR! thats what makes movie all time great! when you think as and emotionally live as charater in movie hall!)
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It seems that the experience is subjective. I don't mind some unanswered questions, it seems that it's different for other people though. Also, I didn't think there were really 'BLACK HOLES' in the script, but I guess that my interpretation (which leaves less holes then some other interpretations) could be incorrect, but it seems to fit with the alien universe of the other movies.
I loved Avatar too... went and saw it 4 times. I agree that Prometheus isn't as polished as Avatar, and would have liked it if there were less threads left hanging (not to mention some of the cheap looking props), but that didn't stop me from enjoying it.
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I do agree that it doesn't make sense that the android dude spiked the drink. They could have at least has some build-up, or attempt to explain that somehow.
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I enjoyed the show. I thought the 3D was good at times and kinda weak in some scenes.


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Story: 7
Acting: 8
Special effects: 8
3D: 7.5/7.75
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