it will be interesting to see the how both HMDs compete .......
now if Sony 'd come up with portable FULL HD OLED HMD....that also - usb powered and accepting both HDMI and VGA.....my wish for now
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the device is complicated - i read the Manuel which i'd downloaded.....seems it requires a bit of an effort to get focus...SDM wrote:Hello all,
New here, but been following along for quite some time. Just received a HMZT1 yesterday, got the same survey offer via email as rowanunderwood. Was extremely suspicious, still am, but the bit of investigation I've done so far seems to point to it possibly being legit. I never receive any spam emails, have done my best over the years to avoid getting on their lists.
Don't know if I'd get chosen though, so far not having an easy time with the HMZ. Cannot get focus for both eyes, regardless the pad, or pad just removed. Spent a good 7-8 hours so far fiddling with distance, straps, etc, just seems impossible for both of my eyes to achieve focus across the full screen/s. Don't know what Sony was thinking with the fit of the device. Forehead pad is just plain painful to me after only a few minutes (when I get as close as I can to focus that is), though I don't have issues with the nose pad/opening (small nose I guess) others seem to have.
Will keep trying for a few days, but it just really feels like an early prototype rather than a finished product ready for the market. Happy for those who've had success with it, been waiting a VERY long time for something like this to finally come along, but no proper focus and pain aren't exactly things I was expecting, so I'll likely be returning it. Really hope a second version with flaws corrected comes about, but of course cannot count on that (only thing holding me back from returning it now).
Just for general info, I typically sit approx 3 feet away from a 25" monitor. To me the HMZ image actually appears at about the same distance away, but is larger than the monitor (by maybe 10%).
Any way, just thought I'd finally chime in here, let rowanunderwood know he's not the only one that got the survey invitation.
Got the same e-mail...I'm tempted to go through with it just to show how flawed their system is.rowanunderwood wrote:Received the following email this morning. Looks like Sony is very interested in the opinions of those that purchased the HMZ.
We are conducting a paid online research discussion on behalf of Sony
and would like to invite you to participate. You were selected by Sony
as a qualified candidate for this study, and we are very much interested
in your opinions. By taking the survey at the link below, you will have
the opportunity to provide your direct feedback on Sony´s products and
services, and if selected to take part in the study, you´ll receive a
check for $125. You will also receive a pocket video camera to use for
this project, and it will be yours to keep after you complete the study.
That . . . or somebodies phishing me.
I will give it another go or two, but I have been through the manual thoroughly (had downloaded Sony's info weeks before receiving my preorder as well). I'm an engineer by trade, so small adjustments and methodical trial and error are part of my nature. Been through my fair share of technology, don't own an HMD (until now), but have used them in the past.ancjob wrote: the device is complicated - i read the Manuel which i'd downloaded.....seems it requires a bit of an effort to get focus...
for the same reason i am not being tempted to pre-order it as the bulk of this device is bothersome - do not want my head trapped in a 'helmet' hence waiting for portable options like st1080 / cinemizer OLED
i'd suggest that you 'd NOT be in a hurry to discount the device rather read the Manuel thoroughly and play with it as per instructions in the Manuel...
this is definitely not as easy as mounting emagin z800....takes some adjustments and tweaking to get it to work...
i really do hope that you will get it to work great!....
have you considered that you are the user tester? why else for such a limited production run with long delay for restock. seems that most of the complaints are things that shouldn't cost much (if any) to fix... just a bit of thought. so could be good in revision 2 or 3?SDM wrote:...
Really have to wonder what kind of actual consumer testing Sony did on these.
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That's indeed exactly what I think, but still not the proper way to do things IMO. Think Sony should just halt production to address the (major at least) issues now though. Independent IPD would require no real design change, and I'm sure their engineers could figure out an add-on or such for comfort with little or no real modification for existing units. As is now, seems a fairly large percentage of these are being (or ultimately will be) returned, would just like to see Sony make some kind of effort now to help avoid that. Think there's enough feedback already, threads in various languages with mod after mod already.android78 wrote:have you considered that you are the user tester? why else for such a limited production run with long delay for restock. seems that most of the complaints are things that shouldn't cost much (if any) to fix...SDM wrote:...
Really have to wonder what kind of actual consumer testing Sony did on these.
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fraherd wrote:Got my HMZ-T1 today sent from the US to Australia, simple step down converter does the trick with the Voltage difference (well it hasn't set fire on my head yet). There has been allot of negative points made about this product and I have to say it does have 'some' slight issues but on the other hand this is one wicked device, I have only played with it for about two or so hours and it's safe to say I am in love with the HMZ-T1 good on you Sony. I payed $1300 US for this in the end most of you will say I'm crazy but even at that price I am confident to say it's worth it.
may be u have been lucky that u got the 'good' headset...ORfraherd wrote:I can safely say there is absolutely no comparison. The HMZ-T1 well and truly shits all over the Z800, it's like comparing an F1 car and a Go Kart.
You are not crazy. I paid around USD 1200 including shipping from US to Malaysia. Hopefully I can get it before 20th December. Still in transit to Borderlinx US and another 3 days international shipment to Malaysia.fraherd wrote:Got my HMZ-T1 today sent from the US to Australia, simple step down converter does the trick with the Voltage difference (well it hasn't set fire on my head yet). There has been allot of negative points made about this product and I have to say it does have 'some' slight issues but on the other hand this is one wicked device, I have only played with it for about two or so hours and it's safe to say I am in love with the HMZ-T1 good on you Sony. I payed $1300 US for this in the end most of you will say I'm crazy but even at that price I am confident to say it's worth it.
pierreye wrote:You are not crazy. I paid around USD 1200 including shipping from US to Malaysia. Hopefully I can get it before 20th December. Still in transit to Borderlinx US and another 3 days international shipment to Malaysia.fraherd wrote:Got my HMZ-T1 today sent from the US to Australia, simple step down converter does the trick with the Voltage difference (well it hasn't set fire on my head yet). There has been allot of negative points made about this product and I have to say it does have 'some' slight issues but on the other hand this is one wicked device, I have only played with it for about two or so hours and it's safe to say I am in love with the HMZ-T1 good on you Sony. I payed $1300 US for this in the end most of you will say I'm crazy but even at that price I am confident to say it's worth it.
An avsforum member removed the forehead cushion, which he said can be easily pulled off and also replaced with some adhesive, and placed a sock there instead. He said it's significantly more comfortable because the wider space distributes the pressure more evenly, and he can wear the unit for hours now.SDM wrote:Cushioned straps won't do it for me unfortunately (have tried that and various other things). Only way I can see to fix the fit and focus issues properly would require opening the unit (IPD decoupling just for starters), and a new piece (rubber/foam) added to fit/position/distribute the weight of the thing comfortably across more of the brow/face
Pagelink?pierreye wrote:@Palmer - There are some photo on avsforum that someone rip out the whole optics with the controller board still working at around 120g. I think the hardware is ready for some serious mod into something more comfortable.
All the review point out that HMZ-T1 should be at least 1 or 2 generation better than Z800 except comfort which is pretty much required some mod.
Tried that, though just removed the entire pad piece, used a scrap piece of plastic/thin foam in its stead. Tried without the forehead pad entirely too, and that was actually better yet (for both comfort and focus), though still not actually comfortable by any means.Aphradonis wrote:An avsforum member removed the forehead cushion, which he said can be easily pulled off and also replaced with some adhesive, and placed a sock there instead. He said it's significantly more comfortable because the wider space distributes the pressure more evenly, and he can wear the unit for hours now.SDM wrote:Cushioned straps won't do it for me unfortunately (have tried that and various other things). Only way I can see to fix the fit and focus issues properly would require opening the unit (IPD decoupling just for starters), and a new piece (rubber/foam) added to fit/position/distribute the weight of the thing comfortably across more of the brow/face
ancjob, my HMZ from eBay comes in next week. I'll post a review as soon as possible
wow! this is definitely some modding kinda goin' on....woohhh!pierreye wrote:Check out this mod. Only 150g and not touching your forehead. Palmer should be able to do some custom mould to mount the device and keep it below 250g.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre ... st21332122" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I plan on modding it into a pair of ski goggles called the "Oakley Splice":pierreye wrote:Check out this mod. Only 150g and not touching your forehead. Palmer should be able to do some custom mould to mount the device and keep it below 250g.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre ... st21332122" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Oddly enough, this forum has an exactly 48 page thread, too: http://neogaf.net/forum/showthread.php?p=33295428" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Aphradonis wrote:I just realized the AVS thread has as many pages as the MTBS thread.