Hi, while searching for stereoscopes I stumbled on these 3D cameras that I didn't heard about before. I don't know if they've been mentionned here already, but just in case here is a little presentation.

HDC-810 - 3D Stereoscopic Digital Camera



AVI at 1280X720@30fps HD 3D/2D video photography
16 Mega Pixels for 3D Pictures
12 Mega Pixels for 2D Pictures
TFT 2.8inch，3D Parallax barrier
SD/MMC card（32GB)
3X Optical zoom
Built-in High power flash

It will be available in summer 2010 and it's announced at $793.00 on 3dvirtualstore but it's available at 477€ in preorder on 3D Shop.

HDC-820 - 3D HD compact camera 820



AVI at 1280X720@30fps
12 Mega Pixels
HDMI output
2.8” 3D Screen, LR type, parallax barrier
SD/MMC (Max 32GB)

It seems the stereo base is 50mm and the sensor is 5MP for each image in 3D and 12MP in 2D. It should also come before the 810 model from the posts on this forum, but I don't know at what price :
http://www.stereoforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=1269

Those are pretty crude renderings for something that's supposed to be available in a few months. I'd guess EOY or never..

Looks cool. I hear the 820 model will be selling for under $300 which will be nice.

The HDC-820 is available now for $259, seems it was not vaporware afterall...



Source : amazon.com

I wonder if anyone can give a review. $259 is reasonable, but just outside of impulse buy range. I would have to see a review first.

In a few days the 810 will be shown at a HK-fair. 3DINLIFE and phenix(large chinese camera-factory) cooperated, established a new company.
I dont believe anything 3dinlife is announcing until i have seen it. until now it was OEM-stuff.

They have all 3dinlife-articles listed. I doubt if they are all available. e.g. 3d-dv-lens. there is an impressive image here in the forum-hard to find- by a german contributor.
http://www.3dvirtualstore.com
btw: prints from fujis 3d-printing-system are much cheaper. ok not convertions.

Sale at Thinkgeek, in case anyone is still interested. I bit, and will try to post some evidence after it arrives.

Nice find, it seems to be the least expensive of all the available 3D cameras. I hope your review won't be too disappointing though.

With a deal like that I couldn't resist. I pulled the trigger. Thanks lnrrgb for posting that link.

I had a festering urge to drop a few dimes on this bad boy, and just couldn't pass up the price on the cam. I figured if I was dropping fifty bones on a hunk of plastic, I'd probably kick myself for not grabbing the cam at that price. My apologies though, as I didn't post the code for $10 off any $60 purchase (TECHBARGAIN23 or 1GBB) - hope you thought to scan the web for that. If they haven't shipped yet, you might be able to cancel, and re-order...in case you missed that extra savings.

cheers for the thinkgeek link and voucher code

been interested in getting a 3d camera, but they're all so expensive....thanks to you guys, just ordered one for around £70 including international shipping to the uk

Just a heads-up: This camera is a piece of junk. I will probably try to return it if I can, its that bad.

First off, it crashes a bunch. Seems to be an issue with the flash, if I turn the flash off it seems ok. Low-light performance is horrible, even when there is an OK amount of light. Made even worse by the fact the flash doesn't work. Picture quality is crap, much worse than the Fujifilm. Video quality is horrible, super pixelated. Setting options don't save correctly (sometimes they work, sometimes not). Overall just a piece of crap. I would recommend NOT buying this camera, even at this amazing $79 price. Not worth the trouble.

Now the good part is that the photos/videos are actually in 3D, and the 3D effect is alright. It takes all photos in side-by-side format 5 megapixel (you can set up to 12, but its interpolated). And you can view the images on the camera with its 3D screen. The screen looks similar to my DIY parallax barrier, not nearly as good as the Nintendo 3DS. You can see some images below:






Maybe I will upload a video later, but the quality is laughable. They claim HD, and the video is technically 1280x720, but its super blocky and pixelated. Colors and lighting are even worse than the pictures. Just horrible. I think I will have to buy a Fujifilm W3 just to get this bad taste out of my mouth.

Ugggggg!!! I hope I can live down this fiasco!!! My results were even worse!!! The quality sucks as much as Cyber says, and for me, there was no 3D to be had - the lenses were not aligned properly. I suppose that is why they were on sale. A bad batch of product, showing up as returns! My apologies to all !!! I did not expect this kind of quality from Thinkgeek, but I suppose they are not truly at fault. I hope they will pull the item. I applied for RMA within hours of arrival, but after seeing Cyber's post, I think I will cancel, and ask for refund! Sux to be me, and again, sorry!

Thankfully - Thinkgeeks return policy was strait forward, and they provided return shipping label !!! So they keep my business, at the moment!

Oh man! I guess they are all crap. If not for the crashing issues it might actually be worth it, even with the mediocre picture quality. But the freezing/crashing it too annoying. The only way to bring it back to life is by removing the battery. Really cheap quality. I guess I will see if I can get my money back.

Definitely some vertical alignment issues on yours as well cyber.. I don't have a way to view the photos in 3d handy, but after watching the yt clip on my phone it seems horizontal convergence isn't where I'd put it, but that's a bit tougher, as I don't think anything has auto-convergence yet. Does the camera have manual convergence control like the Fuji?

Probably best for some anyways....like those w/o a 3DS. I just about cringed when I saw the price drops, just after placing my order.

Yeah, I do notice some misalignment on the images but its hard to say if that was the lenses or just how I was holding the camera.

You can adjust the horizontal parallax on the camera, however I think it just effects how its displayed on the 3D screen. I think the photos taken are the same either way.

It would be nice to see a side-by-side comparison with the 3DS on the same scenes in photo or video. I didn't expect something as good as the Fujifilm W1, but I was still expecting something equivalent to the 3DS. If it's not the case I'll pass.

The vertical misalignment I was seeing didn't look like it could come from holding the camera at an angle to me.

Well the quality on the photos for this camera pretty much blow the 3DS away (aside from the color, that is all wrong), but that's not saying much. The photo quality on 3DS is butt ugly. Here is a comparison shot:

3DS:


3DinLife:

Thanks for the comparison. The resolution is definitely better on the Easy 3D but not by a large margin. Looks like it's even not a 5 Mpixels sensor, as you can see very apparent aliasing when looking at the photo at zoom 1:1. The colors are pretty awful too and the tones are pretty much different between the two images, the alignement is also very bad on that last image. I think I won't loose my money on that considering all the problems this camera exhibits, thanks again for the pictures.

At best I'd say it's a pair of 1.25MP sensors. The actual images are only 2.5MP (The SBS photos posted were all 5MP total,) and they're vertically stretched. But it even looks like there's less horizontal resolution than the 5MP should be. Could very possibly be VGA sensors, or just poorly demosaiced higher res sensors.

I already got an RMA for a refund. Gonna return this piece of crap and get my money back. At least I got to see it with my own eyes.

I said I was sorry, geez! (jk- though not about the sorry part)

So do you really think the 3DS camera is mostly sub-par too? Having gone through this fiasco, only whets my appetite to grab another 3D cam, and soon. If the 3DS cam quality is so-so, do you think any future updates allowing video capture would change your viewpoint? I gotta get something now, but your comments on the 3DS quality kinda stalled me. Should I go DIY somehow, maybe? decisions decisions

The Fujifilm W3 seems to be the standard. It's $300+ though. A few phones have 3d now as well. On Sprint there's the Evo 3d. Outside of the US there's the Optimus 3d. There may be others by now. I've got the Evo, and 3d photos definitely aren't as good as from the W3, but they aren't bad for most methods of viewing. They're 2MPx2, but much more apparant resolution than the 3dinlife.

The Bloggie from Sony (MHS-FS3) looks quite good too, although it's separation is quite low, comparable to that of the 3DS (around 3,15 cm or 1,23"). It's also not that expensive at $250 on Sony site :
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores ... 1666294217

I think the Fujifilm W3 is the only thing even remotely decent right now. The Sony Bloggie has good quality photos (and video) but the stereobase is very low and it doesn't have a flash. Aiptek has a camera, but its a piece of crap (maybe just as bad as this 3DinLife one). Viewsonic has a re-badge of the Aiptek, also crap. Not a lot of choices here.

Yes, the Aiptek is very poor quality (although it looks very cute!).

The Fuji W1 is worth considering; it's basically the same camera as the W3, except it only records 640x480 video. All other specs are pretty much the identical, but it's half the price right now (at least in this country).

You can also get something like the Loreo lens attachment for DSLRs:



If you mount this on a good quality camera, the results are very nice - certainly better than any of the cheap point-and-shoot options.

well, i'm still thankful for the link

i'm not massively into photography or anything, but just wanted soemthing to mess about with, and get 3d effect.....mine seems ok....yeh, not the best camera, but considering it cost only £75 including import duties/tax/shipping all the way to the uk...i'm happy enough. only thing i have noticed is that the sbs pics it produces are not nearly the correct aspect ratio for displaying on a 3d-tv......and the hdmi output does absolutely no conversion or anything, it literally just shows you what is on the camera screen, but on your tv instead....which means that setting the screen to sbs-3d mode won't work either.....

so i have to manually adjust all the photo's on my laptop, then just play them back via my usb medai player.....long winded, but works fine.....

the 3d effect seems ok to me, so like i said, thanks again.....3d camera for under £80

The camera can take 16:9 images, but the settings are messed up. You have to choose 16:9 for the aspect ratio and then maybe choose something else to save it (or maybe the options are reversed). I did end up with some 16:9 pics, but when I set it to 16:9 then it took 4:3 images. Just another reason it was crap. Glad you are happy with it. If it hadn't been freezing on me I probably would have kept it.

The Fuji W3 had a menu option for adjusting the vertical misalignment - so did the Minoru3d - did this camera not have something similar?
My Fuji had to be aligned by 3 pixels but the problem seems worse on this camera though

This camera was the biggest POS I've ever bought. Don't even consider it.