Upgrade Your 2D Display to 3D. Is this for real?
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Upgrade Your 2D Display to 3D. Is this for real?
I have recently stumbled upon a few different solutions claiming to convert *any* old 2D LCD/Plasma/DLP HDTV or projector into a 3D display. At first this seems like nonsense. I mean, with everything that has been said about timing issues on LCD panels, flicker with 60Hz displays, etc. it would seem like this is not possible. But there are multiple companies claiming it works (there's even a video demonstration below). So if this is for real, have we all been hoodwinked? Have all the HDTVs and computer monitors we own been 3D capable this whole time? If that's true then it would seem like quite a conspiracy. Whats the deal here?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLweREUTDiI[/youtube]
http://www.explore3dtv.com/article/1609 ... able-Sets/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.3d-vip.com/#!products/viewst ... layer-info" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLweREUTDiI[/youtube]
http://www.explore3dtv.com/article/1609 ... able-Sets/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.3d-vip.com/#!products/viewst ... layer-info" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Upgrade Your 2D Display to 3D. Is this for real?
Looks like they have a box that converts HDMI1.4 to 30Hz/eye sequential, which obviously you can watch on any 60Hz TV with the obvious ammount of additional flickering involved.
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Re: Upgrade Your 2D Display to 3D. Is this for real?
No, it is actually not that obvious. I have tried shutter glasses on 60Hz LCDs and they didn't work, as have numerous members on this board. People said that the timings on standard LCD panels were not precise enough to sync with shutter glasses or something to that effect. Surely there was a reason everyone thought that shutter glasses wouldn't work on 60Hz LCD displays.
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Re: Upgrade Your 2D Display to 3D. Is this for real?
If thas was true, don't you think the information wouldn't come from major manufacturers instead of small obscure companies ? The VIP 3D Displayer is a variation over the VIP 3D Gamer, ie. a box that transforms HDMI 1.4 signal to field sequential. They advertise televisions and projectors as supported, and although it'll work on DLP projectors even if they aren't 120Hz as we already know, the results on LCD TVs will be a lot more less convincing.
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Re: Upgrade Your 2D Display to 3D. Is this for real?
Newer lcd's have generally quicker responcetime than old ones but saying they work decent with 3d and shutters is a lie at this state. They works well with anaglyph though but that's not really a "counted" option...
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Re: Upgrade Your 2D Display to 3D. Is this for real?
yeah its 30 / eye = 60 hz
as far as desync and anomalies go, they might just open the shutter for some 1.5 ms... but twice or something...
if 120hz won't work (opening the shutter twice per frame), then the product must be practically useless.
as far as desync and anomalies go, they might just open the shutter for some 1.5 ms... but twice or something...
the custom installer is able to dynamically control various functions such as frequency (60Hz/120Hz),
if 120hz won't work (opening the shutter twice per frame), then the product must be practically useless.
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Re: Upgrade Your 2D Display to 3D. Is this for real?
All for a mere $5000.First, JAP demonstrated its solution using the 60Hz frequency. I think 120Hz and 240Hz may have met their match when it comes to 3D.
Personally I found a couple of reasons why 60Hz may be better than the higher rates, starting with adjustment times. My eyes seemed to adjust much faster and more comfortably with the lower range.
Also, overall comfort was much better. 60Hz means breaking the video down to about 30 frames per second for each eye, which is much easier on the eyes.
How about a BIG issue with traditional 3D: Crosstalk. With JAP's solution, crosstalk was less bothersome than it tends to be with traditional 3D implementations.
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Re: Upgrade Your 2D Display to 3D. Is this for real?
I know, right! You could buy a top of the line Sony Bravia 60" 3DTV for that price. And without even seeing their solution I guarantee that Sony set will blow them away. You'd be a fool to pay that much.Okta wrote: All for a mere $5000.
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Re: Upgrade Your 2D Display to 3D. Is this for real?
That is so wrong on so many levels. But just FYI, I did test my parallax barrier with some NSFW content, and it does indeed work.
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Re: Upgrade Your 2D Display to 3D. Is this for real?
Love the website. Zero details just give us your money. This thing proven to work yet?
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Re: Upgrade Your 2D Display to 3D. Is this for real?
I think someone on AVS had gotten the VIP Displayer and claimed it worked, but I still have my doubts.Okta wrote:Love the website. Zero details just give us your money. This thing proven to work yet?