compression and red ghosting

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compression and red ghosting

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hi,
I have a set of 2 aiptek ahd z600 mounted side by side to capture in 3D, I'm very satisfied whith the results I get but I don't know anything about compressing a vidéo.
when I view the result of the original .mov files (I open them in stereoscopic player with some avs scripts, I get a very good result, the vidéo is verry clear, nicelly contrasted and ghosting is near to 0, even when I make some crazy pop-up effects (yeah I like to play with pop-ups LOL)
red objects are verry clear and don't ghost

probleme is as soon as I save the files in avi (I tried many codecs but usually stick with xvid), I get a watchable vidéo file with little less détails and contrast.
it's not a very big problem until I shoot something red.. as soon as I have something red on the vidéo, it comes with huge ghosting :(

is that a comon problem or am I doing somethig wrong, what codecs should I use to keep a good quality (with no "red ghosting") and keep a reasonable size to my vidéos?

I uploaded an exemple on megashare,
the first file is a .rar with the originals files (the 2 vues + avs files to open them)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YRJGUYIV" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
the 2nd is a convertion to interlaced format and compressed with xvid's codec
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=01DDR4RP" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
at about 00.25 you can see a guy in red, walking in the backound, he apprears verry clear on the original mov file but look terrible on the compressed file

I also had the same problem on the vidéo I did post on mtbs earlyer but I can't open them anymore :(
http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=3629" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: compression and red ghosting

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Increase the bitrate when encoding. 3000KBPS is a must for DVD Resolution Side By Side for example. And you should never encode to Interlaced, it'll be ruined by MPEG Compression.
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thanx :) , I'm trying that right now but do you have any idea why this happen only with red?
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Re: compression and red ghosting

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Interlaced 3D videos ghosts a lot more I think.
I save (and resize) 3D clips (side-by-side) using Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V2 codec (100%/6000kbps) or ffdshow Video codec (MPEG-4 XVID 100%) in StereoMovie Maker. I haven't tried all the codec options but at least those give a good result.
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Freke1 wrote:Interlaced 3D videos ghosts a lot more I think.
I save (and resize) 3D clips (side-by-side) using Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V2 codec (100%/6000kbps) or ffdshow Video codec (MPEG-4 XVID 100%) in StereoMovie Maker. I haven't tried all the codec options but at least those give a good result.
the probleme is that this is the only way I found to post them on my site, I was hoping the new version of flash would help but I'm not even sure it will be the case and youtube 3D doesn't seem to work on external sites so I'm stuck with this for now and that stinks :(
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