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Based on that thread, "side-by-side" is now supported in the latest iZ3D beta driver. What is this? A google search didn't do much. Also, a user mentioned "prism glasses" used in conjunction with "side-by-side" functionality included in the latest iZ3D beta drivers. Are these different kind of glasses? Can they be used with a normal LCD monitor or do I need a different 3D solution?

Ever since the U.S. economy went into the [poop]er, money has been tighter. My college's tuition costs just shot up 20%, and textbooks are even harder to find now online at a cheap price.


On a side note (completely unrelated to thread topic)

Oddly enough, I noticed that the iZ3D monitor has dropped prices from $599 to $399. Is this a result of microeconomic deflation? If it is... Lowering the price is a price paradox for iZ3D. Aren't they going to lose money? Price elasticity theory dictates that as you lower the price, more consumers will spend (because poorer people theoretically will have the incentive to buy a supposedly higher-quality good at a lower-quality friendly price). However, when the economy is in a state of deflation, then EVERYBODY (buyers AND sellers) are losing economic profits. So lowering the price just makes everyone worse off. Why not keep the price higher, let the richer customers buy the iZ3D at $599, and iZ3D gets to keep more profit? Economic profits are more important than accounting profits.

(It's kind of weird that I'm advocating a higher price, coming from a customer's perspective, but ever since I took microeconomics instead of just macroeconomics.... I can't help but wonder why iZ3D would lower their price)

side-by-side just means that the left and right views are shown on a single monitor. It makes it easier to record a video. You can use a software method (fraps, Xfire) and it will be easy to record the two eyes in one file. You can also use a hardware method and you won't need to record two videos and stitch them together later. You could try to play with crosseyed/parallel technique but it's too tiring. Instead you can use special glasses.

The prism glasses is just two mirrors per eye. Prisms are used instead of mirrors because it gives a clearer picture. It makes it so that when both of your eye are looking straight ahead, you left eye will see the picture to the left and your right eye will see the picture to the right. Here is a thread about this subject.

Hi, neilthecellist!

I'm not really an expert, but lowering the price is common trend for LCD industry. There are few factors there:
1. increasing manufacturing quality and reducing "bad" monitor volume (initial output for good LC panels was 10%)
2. increasing volume and decreasing amortization part in price

it is also depends on horizon of planning - do you have to have break even point tomorrow, in a month, in a year or in decade etc etc

lol

Clicking on your thread raised another new question: I have two monitors, but of different screen sizes (22" widescreen, 17" regular). I take it wouldn't be possible, then....?

Looks like iZ3D remains an option.



I totally forgot about long term break-even points -- now it makes complete sense!

The thread talks about using those glasses with two monitor using the dual monitor output mode of the driver. However, you can also use those kind of glasses with a single monitor with the side by side output mode.

Referring again to the thread posted earlier, (page 2), seems like prism viewers have to be hooked to the monitor. Are there any simple glasses to just put on? There was an eBAY link posted on page 1 but it was a dead link.

EDIT: Wait, I found these Prism 3D glasses for $18.95. Would they be up for the job? I just have to buy the iZ3D license, right? Would this work on my 22" widescreen LCD monitor by Acer?

EDIT 2: Hypothetically, wouldn't prism mode cut my resolution in half? I don't want to play games at 12" resolution...

It does cut the resolution in half. With those glasses, it's more of a testing for fun, kind of thing. Not something you would use all the time. It does have the advantage of not ghosting and you can use it to look at printed pictures.

I appreciate that there's no ghosting, but since side-by-side DOES cut resolution in half, I'm not interested anymore.

iZ3D remains an option!

Neilthecellist ,I was the OP from your linked thread and have done some playing with some prisms and side by side, mirrors and dual monitor.
First of all you can quite effectively use 2 different size and aspect ratio screens for this setup http://www.crystalcanyons.net/abouts/3d ... plete.shtm.
With your 22 and 17 all you need to do is put the larger screen further away, change its aspect ratio to 4:3 with the onboard adjustments and set them to the same resolution in dual view mode.

For side by side using prisms to curve the light has a bad effect of warping the images slightly depending on the angle of the prisms. The optimum method is using 2 front surface mirrors per side http://www.berezin.com/3D/screenscope.htm. These however do not need to be rigged to the screen and you could use them or similar smaller device for a head mounted unit.
Still those prism glasses you linked would be a good try on your 22inch lcd for some cheap side by side experiment. I would get them myself but shipping from US is a killer.

With the iz3d side by side driver it cuts the screen in half vertically or horizontally. This has the effect of giving you a nasty squeezed or stretched aspect ratio but there are things you can do.
Firstly with a wide screen lcd you can use it as is but change the aspect ratio with the monitor onboard controls to 16x9. This will squash the image somewhat counteracting the side by side mode. Once you put on your glasses your will end up with a tall narrow 3d view still slightly squeezed.
Another option is to spin the wide screen monitor 90 degrees so its standing up vertically, set the side by side driver to top and bottem split and rig your glasses for top and bottom view.
It would be nice in Iz3d could include some controls into the side by side driver so the aspect ratio can be adjusted.
I imagine an old CRT could be used with the vert and hori controls to fix this manually.

A cool experiment would be to mount your scope to an old spare screen like the screenscopes above, put shielding around it to block unwanted light for immersion, and put a fresnel lenses over each sides image between the scope and screen for a massive field of view and depth. I think i will try this soon
It would be a hell of a getto unit requireing good positioning with a low res but with a fov you cannot buy.