I already merged that Excel XLSX spreadsheet into the database (although PNP IDs without known models might be hidden from the view above because there's no practical way to search for them online unless done manually)3DNovice wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:40 pm The easiest source for you to consult, would have been the list by John105 I mentioned here, there was a thread on the old forums about it.
He extracted the list from the Nvidia driver.
There are also some 3rd Party glasses/emitter that are knock offs of the Nvidia glasses/emitter.3DNovice wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:51 am https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/fo ... -hardware/
List of 3D Vision monitors by John105
XLSX Version
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bev8n97jbxwpw ... .xlsx?dl=0
CSV Version
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0vfn24bdl6ub ... e.csv?dl=0
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Also, on Nvidia's FAQ site, there is mention of Nvidia contacting manufacturers to have them continue making a few 3D Vision monitors for their Quadro users, I posted about it here.
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I think that the VG24QE is one such model, it has been steadily available @$200-250, but is only 1080p and no G-Sync. Though there were G-Sync kits for this version, that a user could buy and install. I believe that bo3b installed the kit on his.
Though not on the list, it has been in stock for a long enough time, that stock should have been depleted. thus, leading me to assume that it is still being manufactured. If anyone buys one, please tell us the manufacture date that is listed.
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-VG248QE-192 ... H7G0/?th=1
I bought this as well, a long time go. It had too much lag for playing games, so I sold it right away. I was interested in other forms of headmounted displays, but I'm waiting for the resolution to get good enough and at consumer prices.used Sony hmz-t3w
Interesting, do you mean we can unlock 3D refresh rate in 3DTV Play for any monitor or just that one model?3DNovice wrote: ↑Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:56 am We had several users that purchased and used Sony hmz-t3w and their other model.
We also had one that purchased the Royal Moon as well, the associated thread is on the old forums, in regards to the 3DTV Play 24Hz limitation, we all know
that it is no longer a hindrance. https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/fo ... -purchase/
So you might list those as well as the Avegant Glyph, which were selling at 99-$129, some are still available for $300. Perhaps on a separate page or under a different header? Dunno
I never seen mention of anyone in the community using the GOOVIS G2-2021 or any of the other GOOVIS products.
https://goovis.net/products/g2x
geo-11 is obviously a great choice, but it's not a complete replacement for native 3D Vision cuz it's obviously limited to D3D11 (unless you wanna mess with wrappers and redo fixes for other APIs like D3D9) and full resolution still requires 3DV outputs or VR.3DNovice wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:11 am Of course Geo-11 does not have the 24Hz limitation of 3DTV Play, because it can function as a stereoscopic middleware without Nvidia's stereoscopic
drivers being installed.
For dx11 games, 3DMigoto offers support to surpass the limitation of 3DTV Play's 24Hz restriction that is in Nvidia's stereoscopic drivers. this is accomplished
by editing the d3dx.ini to output the desired format of SbS or Over/Under
3DTV Play offers 1080i@60 support for displays supporting Checkerboard.
Optimized for Nvidia GeForce offers 1080i@60 support for displays that use a Line Interlaced format, an EDID override is needed though.
Or to workaround the 1080p@24Hz limitation of 3DTV Play there a registry edit method
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comment ... hout_3dtv/
Also, in some case Generic CRT can be used, if the TV or Projector supports Frame Sequential/Page Flipping.
Ah, so I guess the HDMI chip on my VG278H is a lot more limited than the DVI port because obviously it can handle full res 1080p60 per eye, but I also recall trying a custom resolution to force 1080p120 2D via HDMI and it didn't work.3DNovice wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:16 pm Rough Overview.......
There are two limitations that restrict achieving greater than 24Hz Frame Packing on HDMI 1.4 connections.
First and foremost, is the bandwidth of the chip/controller on the input of the display. The reason that they can not support 120Hz/60 full frames per eye
even when connected to a new GPU, is due to the limitations of that input. But the bandwidth is there for 30 full frames per eye (1080P30) or 120/60 per eye interlaced frames(1080i60) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1080i
Secondly, the display's software must support any particular stereoscopic format and refresh rate. Most support Over/Under@60i or Side by Side @60i.
(refer to your owner's manual) Samsung LED/Plasma Checkerboard support typically require that a specific input port be used and possibly renamed/labeled.
Samsung does not call it Checkerboard, they call it Pixel Interleaved or something similar.
Interlaced can be Line Interleaved, Column Interleaved, Checkerboard, Side by Side Half or Over/Under Half(Top and Bottom Half)
Of course Passive TVs and Monitors natively support 1920x1080i Line Interleaved
While DLP 3D HDTVs like those from Samsung and Mitsubishi only supported 1920x1080i Checkerboard natively, due to the DLP mirror array only being half the resolution, so wobulation was used to achieve a 1920x1080 image.
Also, some Samsung and Panasonic active 3D HDTVs, both Plasma and LED supported Checkerboard in addition to other formats.
Good find! I added it to the database.harisukro wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:44 pm Someone posted on discord about ASUS VG278QF being compatible: https://discord.com/channels/5157038646 ... 8919933992
Official link: https://www.asus.com/displays-desktops/ ... g/vg278qf/
There are some external gpu adapters for laptops, if you have the correct pci-e slot for it that is. Might be possible to get a faster 3d vision gpu to work with the emitter on there. The laptop might be a bit too slow to run alot of the newer games in 3d vision though.I would be enough buying any 3D Vision monitor
Well yes, but I'm not into 3D games. Only creating and playing 3D videos / pics, and for that kind of work laptop is more than powerful, thanks!treeeddd wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:52 amThere are some external gpu adapters for laptops, if you have the correct pci-e slot for it that is. Might be possible to get a faster 3d vision gpu to work with the emitter on there. The laptop might be a bit too slow to run alot of the newer games in 3d vision though.I would be enough buying any 3D Vision monitor
Nope, it doesn't have a backlight strober, still the panel is too slow. I've tested a similar IPS panel with the same speed, and it has too much crosstalk.LG Ultragear UHD 4K 32'' , it does 1ms , 3840x2160 x 144hz , so for me S3D looks possible
treeeddd wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:39 pmNope, it doesn't have a backlight strober, still the panel is too slow. I've tested a similar IPS panel with the same speed, and it has too much crosstalk.LG Ultragear UHD 4K 32'' , it does 1ms , 3840x2160 x 144hz , so for me S3D looks possible
There's going to be faster IPS panels coming out this year in 4k that could be able to do 3d vision, but 4k sized monitors usually don't have as fast of a pixel transition time as 1440p and 1080p sized monitors.
The ASUS ROG Swift 360Hz 27” 1440P HDR Gaming Monitor (PG27AQN) is one of the newer IPS panels that could be fast enough for 3d vision. Though they are super expensive too, probably not worth it just for 3d vision gaming because the older 3d vision official monitors are alot cheaper used.
Have to wait for more of these fast IPS panel to be released this year to see if any of them can do 3d vision, but it's going to need a good backlight strobing implementation.
They are using the LG 27" Ultragear OLED QHD Gaming Monitor, which is known to only have 160nits fullscreen brightness. I can't imagine using such a low brightness screen with active shutter glasses. Well, at least it's good to know that it works with oled monitors in QHD size, but, yeah, it's just too dim to actually usable.One of the newer videos, shows it at AWE2023 being demoed with a 4K 2D display. https://youtu.be/EDvkKBWRWv4
It is only in 1080p... It is not the best monitor for 3D.williamliz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:50 am After researching and learning as well as consulting with experts, perhaps the final choice is still Acer XB272 (240hz 2D + 144hz 3D) five nights at freddy's 4
I actually have this monitor, 1080p kinda sucks in 3D, TN panel sucks in colors too. I find the gsync module used for 3d vision makes everything look alot softer as well.consulting with experts, perhaps the final choice is still Acer XB272
Do you know if it is hard to make a G7 compatible 3D Vision ?treeeddd wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 8:05 pmI actually have this monitor, 1080p kinda sucks in 3D, TN panel sucks in colors too. I find the gsync module used for 3d vision makes everything look alot softer as well.consulting with experts, perhaps the final choice is still Acer XB272
1440p is great for 3d, but it still a TN panel, 27inchs, and still a soft 3d image on the screen. It also only works in displayport, hdmi doesn't work with 3d vision for the gsync module.
If you don't mind tinkering and setting up a non compatible 3d vision monitor, the oddyssey G7 32 inch is the way to go. It's affordable these days, and can be found at a good price used.
I got got my eye on these newer QD-oled monitors, still somewhat expensive right now to see if it can work with 3d vision or not.
TN panels ruin the 3d experience, IMO. With these newer QD-oled, you'll get great motion handling, colors, and nice dark. TN panels have backlight scanning however, that I find improves the motion handling nicely.
I'm still waiting for these fast IPS panels to be release, that could possibly be fast enough for 4k 32inch gaming. Also, waiting for the 2nd gen QD-oleds, which can get bright and be better at image burn in. Not great options if you are looking for a budget 3d vision compatible monitor. But they will still produce better 3d image if you can get them to work with 3d vision...
I helped two other members of this forum, through the treads, to get their odyssey G7 working with 3d vision. I'm sure you can get it setup if you go through the threads here, if not I can help you if you run into an issue. It's not hard at all, edid edit in the regedit, tweak the syncing of the 3d glasses with nvtimingED. There is some sync issue with the glasses that needs to be fine tuned if it doesn't stayed synced. I found a driver edid that keeps the sync, which I posted in another thread.Do you know if it is hard to make a G7 compatible 3D Vision ?
I'm not sure how the wide aspect of the display will affect the timing of the 3d glasses, nvtimingED has a way to adjust the timing so it could work within a small window of the screen. Setting up the G9 to work with 3d vision drivers is the the same way as setting up the G7 to work with 3d vision. You can try it out for yourself to see if you can get it to work.G9 OLED monitor, would it be possible to activate 3D Vision on that one too
Yep i saw your posts.treeeddd wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2023 3:34 pmI helped two other members of this forum, through the treads, to get their odyssey G7 working with 3d vision. I'm sure you can get it setup if you go through the threads here, if not I can help you if you run into an issue. It's not hard at all, edid edit in the regedit, tweak the syncing of the 3d glasses with nvtimingED. There is some sync issue with the glasses that needs to be fine tuned if it doesn't stayed synced. I found a driver edid that keeps the sync, which I posted in another thread.Do you know if it is hard to make a G7 compatible 3D Vision ?
I'm not sure how the wide aspect of the display will affect the timing of the 3d glasses, nvtimingED has a way to adjust the timing so it could work within a small window of the screen. Setting up the G9 to work with 3d vision drivers is the the same way as setting up the G7 to work with 3d vision. You can try it out for yourself to see if you can get it to work.G9 OLED monitor, would it be possible to activate 3D Vision on that one too
3DNovice wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 2:34 pm The built in emitter on your laptop will not function with an external 3D Vision monitor.
The emitter will function as a product key to unlock 3DTV Play for free on older drivers vs paying the $40 (note:3DTV Play is no longer sold) this would allow the use of any HDMI 1.4 compliant 3D Display.
In the last official driver version released by Nvidia containing their stereoscopic drivers, 3DTV Play no longer requires a product key, it was added for free in 418/425.31
https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers ... n-products
AFAIK, there are not any 3D Vision certified monitors being sold anymore other than the Asus VG248QE but you would need to find an external emitter to buy, they are also no longer being manufactured.
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