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 S3D on Geforce8 (Update: works with >= 177.79 XP 32) 
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Post S3D on Geforce8 (Update: works with >= 177.79 XP 32)
I found a solution for Geforce 8 users to play again in S3D. I tested all my installed games, and they work without any problems.

Tested with Oblivion (doimagespace effects=0). haven´t got any better stereo than this.
Life for Speed (perfect)
SWG (disable bloom ->perfect)
FSX (perfect)
ArmA (no artifacts but no depth, think post-processing problems)
Portal (all graphics on minimum, added new profile)
Crysis (stereo works but didnt get any depth)

Here is what i have done:

1. installed forceware 171.23 beta, installed stereo162.50 from this site, rebooted.

2. edited registry for old forceware menu:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\Stereo3D]
- "ShowAllViewerTypes"=dword:00000001 (necessary if you want more S3D viewer type option in Stereo Control Panel)
- ContextUIPolicy to 1 (this is to get the old control panel)
- CplGroupUIPolicy to 1 (this is to get the old control panel)

3. installed nhancer and set global configuration (this is to eliminate artefacts) to
- anti aliasing to supersampling 4x4 or 1x2 for better performance
- enhance aa yes
- gamma correction yes (not nescessary)
- super transperancy yes (not nescessary)
- and than thats the most important:
under copatibility aa compatibilty to oblivion HDR

4. DONT forget to force vsync to on (did it in nhancer), otherwise you´ll get blackscreen.

5. VERY IMPORTANT: The display mustn´t be recognized by the driver! To achieve this i put my revelator adapter between the port of the 8800gtx and the monitorcable OR remove Pin:

-\--- O O O O O---/
--\- O O O O O---/
---\- O O O O X-/

(turned it away with a screwdriver at my VGA cable, so i can bring it back in position if nescessary)

6. in Control Panel choose DDC VGA Glasses (IO Display)

7. For me it is also nescessary to put display mode to clone. I also have to change the revelator dongle between the two vga-ports to get the shutterglasses flickering


That´s it! For me it works like with my 7800GTX but of course with more performance :)

Viewer types that don´t work: Anaglyph, Sharp, vertical interleaved .
Viewer types that work: DDC VGA glasses (IO Display), Dual VGA with Mirror up/down, Planar mirror left/right, direct 3-Pin DIN Vesa Connect, Phillips 3d multiview panel, NeurOK front/back

It runs on multicore, no boot single processor config nescessary.
Tested with vr920 for stereo3d.
No success with 174.XX driver, yet.

Manual should be complete now as its reproducable on other computers.

Video that shows the config: http://www.stage6.com/user/VadersApp/vi ... 2-quadcore

System:
8800 GTX, Intel Quadcore@3,56ghz, Win XP32, Nvidia 171.23, Stereo 162.50, Primary display TFT, Secondary display VR920, Revelator adapter at primary display port/VGA Monitor Cable with Pin X (above pic) removed.

Post edited several times for new information.

Removed (not nescessary):
- Set all stereo resolutions to your maximum hz for your display. For me thats 60hz for TFT and VR920.
- Thats the funny part of it: You have to run medical test image test before running any direct3d-app. To do so click on activate and apply. After done that, run medical test. (not nescessary for me now)


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Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:22 pm
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Would be nice if it would work. I'll give it a try. Where do you get the forceware 171.23 beta?


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got mine from forums.guru3d.com

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=253263

edit1: Frack! After i restarted my system to boot up multicore config, every game bluescreened :(
The problem is now after i booted up my single core config i still get bluescreens.
will do some tests now, maybe i ll find a solution. *puts beer back into the fridge*

Edit2: It works again, after deinstalling nvidia drivers and reinstalling them, firing up only single-core config. will do some tests now.


Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:33 pm
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Well if you said it worked without problems it must work somehow. Damn drivers.


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That is realy funny, you wont believe this. It runs on multicore. Only what you have to do is before running any other application you have to do the medical test image test. After it ran you can fire up any game without bluescreen.
Tested it several times, and yes thats it.

now i earned a cold german becks beer :)

if one of you maybe think: no i am not drunken it will be my first one ;)

Have edited first post with this info


Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:30 pm
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Any drivers I tried before would get a black screen when trying the medical test image.


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maybe it has to do with the refresh rate, as i learned before with my tests. i set them to 60hz for all resolutions, because i am using a tft for non stereo3d and vr920 for stereo3d. if it dont work from the beginning try different refresh rates. set them via stereo3d menu in nvidia control panel for all resolutions.


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That is good news. It sounds a little strange, but maybe Nvidia has changed something important at their new drivers, what can be used by the 'old' stereodriver. If things work well, maybe the new (Zalman) driver will bring some competition back to the field of S-3D :P

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is the medical test showing 3d or is it just 2 pictures?

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Ok here's what I have so far doing exactly what you have posted. Dual core on and off.

The med test works fine and the Nvidia test app works perfectly without any artifacts (a first for me with my 8800gts) both are in stereo with depth.

However gaming wise Oblivion crashes to a hard lock and Cryis does the same.

I've tried using the 60hz refresh to no avail. Even went back to 171.17 and had the same results.

Not sure what to try next.

This is on a crt btw

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nice! have you tried sview, stereomovie player or have any other games?

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wuhlei wrote:
nice! have you tried sview, stereomovie player or have any other games?

Sview is working ok with a few tested pics. Don't have any stereo movies so I don't use the movie player.

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tried Ati treasure chest demo. works perfect

my favourite 64k demo works:
http://www.scene.org/file.php?file=/dem ... p&fileinfo

btw. these guys @ farbrausch are crazy. Best soundtrack for a demo and this was done 2000!
I cant believe to see it 3d again.


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hey vader what version of geforce 8 are you using? I think this only works for 8800.

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its a bfg 8800gtx. i have a notebook with a 8400M GT. So i ll try the configuration later.
Edit: forgot that it is vista32. so thats a no go.


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