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cybereality wrote:
I don't understand. You should be able to select 800x600 for the resolution, no problem. You can try the DVI adapter trick I linked to, maybe it will help you.

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cyber - plz help something happened and z800 not working as plug'n'play - i want to try the pin removal method that you 'd mentioned Now my asrock ion 3d accepts 25 pin male DVI connector which looks like in pics attached

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Now cyber - do i need removing the same pins indicated in the pic you posted even for 25 pin DVI connector male ? plz help


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Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:27 am
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That DVI trick will actually STOP it from being recognized by plug-and-play. What it does is destroy the connection that transmits the plug-and-play specifications. So that is actually the LAST thing you want to do.

Also, why are you so obsessed with plug-and-play? What is it really you are trying to accomplish?

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Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:16 pm
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cybereality wrote:
That DVI trick will actually STOP it from being recognized by plug-and-play. What it does is destroy the connection that transmits the plug-and-play specifications. So that is actually the LAST thing you want to do.

Also, why are you so obsessed with plug-and-play? What is it really you are trying to accomplish?



cyber - i am trying to get z800 to work with asrock ion 3d nettop - truly plug'n'play...well not truly exactly....soemwhere close to.

headplay is 'truly plug'n'play' it even shows me the bios windows when the unit is booting up...but that will not happen in case of z800 as it takes only 800x600@60hz

headplay takes resolution from VGA through 1024x768 - 800x600 being the default resolution...[asrock sets automatically to] hence that's why it's 'true' plug'n'play all automatic...

for some reason despite setting resolution to 800x600 @ 60hz - z800 does not work...then i attach headplay [remove z800] then once the headplay works i remove it then attach z800 and z800 is recognized..........so am using headplay as primary to get z800 to work which is big hassle for me !


i tried to custom write the inf file for default 800x600@60hz using edid softawre - disabled nvidia drivers and updated display driver with inf file but then XBMC 'd not load....so i reverted back to enabling nvidia and now intend to try your method


i guess despite setting 800x600@60hz there is something which does not let z800 get recognized...i believe it's those pins for edid that are creating issues....hence wanna try your method as last resort.....if this also does not work then i will get a cheap netbook exclusively for playing z800....let's see


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Well I guess you can try it as a last resort. Maybe it will help. Just make sure to do it on an adapter or extension cable just in case it doesn't work.

Also, I still don't understand why Windows would not recognize it. It should work with or without plug-and-play.

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cybereality wrote:
Well I guess you can try it as a last resort. Maybe it will help. Just make sure to do it on an adapter or extension cable just in case it doesn't work.

Also, I still don't understand why Windows would not recognize it. It should work with or without plug-and-play.


cyber - thanks for the quick reply...
well - i have already ordered dvi-vga adaptor online....will get it in a 3-4 days....
even i do not understand why windows 'd not recognize z800.......even when the resolution is set 800x600@60hz by default...in nvidia control panel....also xbmc being windowed does not change resolution at all but still no success......i hate these VGA based HMDs....too bad even sony 'd not make something like z800 with HD oleds....


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Have you tried setting the resolution inside the Windows resolution settings NOT the Nvidia panel. With my 1200VR it gets messed up if I use Nvidia to set the resolution. It needs to be done in Windows (right click desktop -> change resolution).

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cybereality wrote:
Have you tried setting the resolution inside the Windows resolution settings NOT the Nvidia panel. With my 1200VR it gets messed up if I use Nvidia to set the resolution. It needs to be done in Windows (right click desktop -> change resolution).


yeah cyber - i did that ! no go...


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update : I got so desperate as to almost finalize buying the FULL HD capable netbook to have both headplay and z800 work.....but wait something happened...

i had my VGA-to-Pal converter lying useless in my 'store'.......i chanced to notice the VGA pass-through on it...so i sat down to set it p with asrock ion 3d....it was detected as 'non plug'n'play' and it passed the 800x600 or whatever i needed to VGA pass through....

Finally spending time configuring - i was able to get all of my HMDs to work again...
headplay/z800 to get 800x600@75Hz [via VGA pass-through] while the composite output to my "Oriscape'' AV HMD[generic china HMD]...and for these HMDs - it's plug'n'play NOW which i wanted...especially z800 to work as 2D monitor with my nettop - Asrock ion 3D...

so now everything is ok [thanks to usd$40 VGA-Pal converter] and i saved myself from spending around usd$500 on another Full HD netbook....hope this helps


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Great! You got it working!

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cybereality wrote:
Great! You got it working!


yeah cyber - almost i was to finalize buying the Asus 1015PN-pu27 or acer aspire one ao522 netbooks ....both are full HD capable with hdmi and VGA and in the usd$500 range [including import duty]....and in small form factor but the issue was that i already had a 3d capable nettop[asrock ion 3D] so i was very unhappy doing so.

i'd purchased the VGA-to-PAL converter a long time back and then i put it away in my 'electronic dump' as it was not being used....then the surprise was in store for me...

but this usd$40 VGA-to-PAL converter i noticed had the "VGA pass-through".....after some settings and tweaking it made z800/headplay/generic china HMD totally plug'n'play.....something i wanted so desperately....

Now i can enjoy z800 with my nettop as truly plug'n'play....


Trust me cyber - of all the hype around Sony HMD/Vuzix 1200 etc - z800 holds it's own charm being light weight / usb powered with optics that are so cool that i can keep wearing it for hours but no strain to eyes......which i do not think any HMD has so far been able to achieve besides z800.....

all eMagin has to go is to upgrade their OLED panel to OLED-XL or source it from Sony and improvise keeping the same form factor to emerge 'winner' still....i leave their engg. deptt to fig. out how they ;d use Sony OLED panels on their eye-pieces....

but again - z800 holds it's own sway...................


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