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 S-3D confusion, where to go from here? 
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One Eyed Hopeful

Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:49 pm
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Hey all!
I recently stumbled across S-3D again, about 5 years ago i picked up CRT shutter glasses and was amazed.
Unfortunately my system spec and the size of my desk couldn't handle the accessories needed and the glasses soon became lost.

I ran into the edimentional website a few days back i decided to order some of the new LCD shutter glasses.
Basically i come to you asking for advice on how i can get back the 3d experience i had 5 years or so back..

The effect of the LCD glasses (even on my very uber gaming LCD) were nothing close to what i remembered,
also with no nvidia support anymore for my card (8 series) i am kind of lost in what i should do to get use out of these fella's.

I am willing to pay a lot(student) to get this experience back, i just need to be pointed in the right direction.

Should i go out and get a 7900 gtx, CRT and rollback to the old school drivers?
Should i invest in a zalman or iz3d monitor?
Carry on trying to get the tweak for 8 series cards to work? (blank screen, vsync forced)
Pickup a pair of those blue and red glasses and run iz3d drivers?

Or listen to something you guys might say to help me out..

Just for reference, My setup is as follows:

4400+ amd x2
2gb 667mhz ram
nvidia 8600 GTS 256mb
Samsung syncmaster 931cw WCG edition (2ms, 1400x900, 75hz) <3
Xp pro sp2
edimentional 5.0 stereo drivers
eDim wired LCD shutters

I love this monitor, so i would do anything to keep it and still gain s-3d.

I apologize about the length of this post, its because i have had a taste of what i remembered and i want it back =]
Somehow gaming now feels underrated without it...

Please let me know,

Regards,
Ben


Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:02 pm
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Sharp Eyed Eagle!

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I had a system almost identical to yours with the exception of a 7900 series card (actually about equal to an 8600GT due to having twice the memory bus width, 256bit vs 128bit for the 8600)


I built a Dual monitor passively polarized system http://mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=136 :
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http://picasaweb.google.com/nubie07/StereoMonitorStand


This uses some polarized glasses ($3) and a half-mirror (see a local glass shop) with two LCD screens. This is a million times better than the Edimens on a CRT (I sold my E-dims on ebay a week after I got them they were so crap.)

The main problems are you will need a second screen and a mounting system, but it is totally awesome. (And it needs to be polarized at 45° or 135°, or use a polarizing filter on top of the screen to rotate the polarization)

Basically I wouldn't get a GTX either, I would pick up a 7900GT or 7950GT 512MB on ebay (~$130-150), or a 7900GS (~$70-90), and you won't see much of a difference in performance from your 8600 card (AFAIK). If the price is the same a 7900GTX is fine too, they are all the same chip (the GS has less shaders, the same as a 7800, but is the smaller chip process and can overclock to the same speed as a GT/GTX with good cooling.)



7900gt 512mb on ebay


7950gt 512mb on ebay


Just a thought. I would try a few different types, this type can be tried with any simple mirror and any secondary screen (CRT, smaller LCD etc), while sitting on a desk. http://www.crystalcanyons.net/pages/Tec ... ewing.shtm

Buy some anaglyph glasses and linear polarized glasses from berezin.com for $10 just to check out those options, you will easily see what is going on, you can also try the polarized setup on a desk without any mounts:

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http://picasaweb.google.com/nubie07/3DMonitor

So there are a couple options for you. Welcome to the wacky world of S3D :)

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Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:50 pm
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Binocular Vision CONFIRMED!
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How is the ghosting compared to shutterglasses and crt?


Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:30 am
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Golden Eyed Wiseman! (or woman!)
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Nubie, if you have it did you ever run the 'Ghosting Test' thing? I know that the DLP thing has 0% ghosting and think this one has 0-100% Ghosting depending on how you hold you'r head...

But let's assume its perfectly 'straight'...

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