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3dpmaster
Two Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:05 pm Posts: 65
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Nagahara's 180 deg catadioptrical hmd replication.
Finally, I had the possibility to mirror my vacuum formed plastic parts in a university. There are two mirrors alined to eachother. I saw the image is distorted like a curved valley. If I can take a picture with the same distortion, the viewed image will be corrected. The setup of H. Naghara is a big issue because the aligment tolerance between focal points is very small. The fov is less than 180 deg ---> 160 deg because of the enclined ellips (patent description).
to be continued....
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cybereality
3D Angel Eyes (Moderator)
Joined: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:18 pm Posts: 10152
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Awesome work bro! What are your plans for this (ie will you be selling kits or is this personal use only)?
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| Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:45 pm |
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Okta
Golden Eyed Wiseman! (or woman!)
Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:22 am Posts: 1470
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You certainly have chosen a complex project and if you can get is workable will be a huge achievement. Wishing you great success.
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| Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:53 pm |
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FingerFlinger
Sharp Eyed Eagle!
Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:57 pm Posts: 353 Location: Utah
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Really excited to see your progress. Very impressed!
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PalmerTech
3D Angel Eyes (Moderator)
Joined: Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:06 pm Posts: 1611
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Sitting on the edge of my seat with this, being able to ditch traditional refractive optics would be great! 
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| Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:08 pm |
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3dpmaster
Two Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:05 pm Posts: 65
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thanks It is extremely difficult to get a smoother mirror surface without cnc and whithout lathe. The image is not that perfect. There are some curvature errors, the mandrel was made from wood. The sharpness of the image is ok, but the aperture is not so great. The image is not bright enough because of the small beam exit from the cone mirror. The big advantage of this mirror device is the use of any magnifier, even a standard 50mm photo lens can be used for a sharper image. The main image format is as big as a 35mm diapositif (very small for a 160deg fov hmd). I have plans to make a new mirror with a mandrel from metal (cnc). The following test is the ultimate 3D test (also done with 35mm dia's). The final assembly would be set on a moped helmet like H. Nagahara did. Unfortunately, I cannot sell kits of this devise because it is an invention of H. Nagahara et.al. . Only for private use. 
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HMD: SONY HMZ-T1 FOV: 40° diagonal
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DixieFlatline
One Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:55 am Posts: 3
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Can we get more pictures of the device and it's function? Perhaps a demo using dual camera rig?
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| Sat May 26, 2012 5:10 am |
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3dpmaster
Two Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:05 pm Posts: 65
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Sorry for this late reply. The hyperbolic mirror is not so good because the focal legnth is too short, it cannot reach the ellips. I have to make a new one with a longer focal length. This will reduce the field of view of the incoming rays through the lens group. The FOV of the ellips will stay the same (180 degrees). If I have better results, pics will follow. 
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HMD: SONY HMZ-T1 FOV: 40° diagonal
HMD project: FOV: >180°
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| Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:50 am |
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3dpmaster
Two Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:05 pm Posts: 65
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Big surprise on my last optical tests, the mirrors can go over the 180 deg!!!! Mr Nagahara could rotate the mirrors a bit more. Now I have 200 degrees somewhere, I can't believe my eyes I still have to get rid of these vignette errors. 
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brantlew
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Joined: Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:23 pm Posts: 2079 Location: Irvine, CA
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Cool. Are the mirrors polished? How clear is the image they produce?
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| Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:55 pm |
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cybereality
3D Angel Eyes (Moderator)
Joined: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:18 pm Posts: 10152
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Sounds amazing. Please try to take a photo if possible.
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3dpmaster
Two Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:05 pm Posts: 65
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Sorry about this long waiting time. I'm trying out different mirroring techniques that I can do by myself. Half silvered mirrors like the aircraft helmet mounted displays is a big possibility. The curved mirror devise can be used in augmented reality If I use these curved half silvered mirrors. More will come as soon as possible
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3dpmaster
Two Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:05 pm Posts: 65
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other pics of the 'stitched" elliptical mirror. One elliptical mirror weights around 10 grams. The construction is more complex than I expected, but I can make it. It is just a manner of a correct focus alignment. If the correct cone mirrors are finished, I can start the assembly. 
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HMD: SONY HMZ-T1 FOV: 40° diagonal
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| Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:22 am |
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FingerFlinger
Sharp Eyed Eagle!
Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:57 pm Posts: 353 Location: Utah
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Very cool. It looks like they are maybe scotch-taped together right now? Are you going to mount them and do a final polishing once they are in place? Just curious how you will manage the seams, or perhaps they are not a problem because the eye can't resolve them at that distance?
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| Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:28 pm |
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cybereality
3D Angel Eyes (Moderator)
Joined: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:18 pm Posts: 10152
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Looking good.
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