Sixense Wireless Motion Tracking System!

Post by **geekmaster** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:48 am

UPDATE: The announcement has been made official, as indicated by the new thread title.

HUGE Sixense announcement in 1/2 hour

I just got "secret insider" knowledge of a HUGE Sixense announcement coming in 1/2 hour!

New Razer Hydra, or MakeVR? We shall see very soon!

Time to start pounding those F5 web browser page refresh keys?

Post by **blazespinnaker** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:53 am

New Razer Hydra is the obvious choice. MakeVR is probably being sidelined.

Or maybe they're creating SecondLife V2? That'd be interesting. They seem to have a lot of disdain for SL V1. They're were talking a lot about Oasis in that demo with Jan.

Another possibility is other VR gear, haptic vest, full body motion capture, etc.

Post by **Lilwolf** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:54 am

I'm kinda hoping a hydra glove myself. If not, I'm making my own!

Post by **colocolo** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:55 am

then this Revolution banner was only a joke preparing us for today....

i hope it isnt a gaming mouse with a cupholder.

Post by **joakizmo** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:02 am

http://sixense.com/wireless

Post by **NightlHlawk** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:05 am

This is sexy news.

Post by **geekmaster** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:06 am

You posted the new announcement here while I posted it to a new thread:
http://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=140&t=17986

Notice how it has the same "Development Kit" label as the Rift DK?

Post by **CynicalWanderer** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:07 am

At last, wireless Hydras! Take my money!

Post by **LuckyLu** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:14 am

Finally!

Post by **Ziggurat** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:21 am

And I finally got a hold of a Razer Hydra today after weeks of looking in Norway...
Well, I will just use the Hydra as a wired "dev kit" until the consumer version of that thing shows up

Post by **NightlHlawk** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:30 am

Hm. The STEM looks like a shirt clip of some sort. Hoping this will allow the base to sit wherever and the clip can somehow translate if you're turning around on an ODT or something and still work with your back turned to it.

Post by **geekmaster** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:31 am

At [url]https://developer.oculusvr.com/forums/posting.php?mode=quote&f=25&p=25839[/url], geekmaster wrote:
AtariHistorian wrote:[*] Either three of five trackers, depending on how you interpret the wording (two of which are handheld)
[*] If three trackers, two slots are left open for fresh replacement batteries (odd unless body clip is long-life)
[*] Apparent USB base station in front
[*] Backwards compatibility
[*] Releasing a dev kit first
The backwards compatibility is important. So it looks like these should work with existing Razer Hydra software then (as should be expected).

I have requested more information on pricing and availability, so I will keep you posted on whatever I am allowed to publish. Thanks.

Post by **blazespinnaker** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:34 am

NightlHlawk wrote:Hm. The STEM looks like a shirt clip of some sort. Hoping this will allow the base to sit wherever and the clip can somehow translate if you're turning around on an ODT or something and still work with your back turned to it.

Could be a belt clip too. Cool stuff!

I wonder if there will be sensor fusion with the handheld motion trackers.

Post by **PatimPatam** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:38 am

Awesome!!! Yesterday Source SDK -VR and today this, keep the good news coming!

Sixense wrote:Sixense will release development kits that will support three wireless motion trackers

Yep it looks like that the STEM is the third tracker with a clip that you can attach anywhere (like the Rift, shirt or belt). Nice!

Also is it just a coincidence that the design is very similar to this??
Reactive Grip Brings Tactile Feedback to the Razer Hydra

Post by **colocolo** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:39 am

the neat thing about this, is that you can now also build a wooden blank gun peripheral on which you can stick the hydras.

Post by **NightlHlawk** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:41 am

PatimPatam wrote:Also is it just a coincidence that the design is very similar to this??
Reactive Grip Brings Tactile Feedback to the Razer Hydra

Here's to hoping the consumer version of this having tactile feedback?

Post by **blazespinnaker** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:44 am

NightlHlawk wrote:
PatimPatam wrote:Also is it just a coincidence that the design is very similar to this??
Reactive Grip Brings Tactile Feedback to the Razer Hydra
Here's to hoping the consumer version of this having tactile feedback?

Maybe

But that'd be a bit rough on the battery.

Post by **MrGreen** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:48 am

Post by **Mystify** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:48 am

That is sexy. It looks like it should meet our needs well, we shall see how well it works in practice.

Post by **blazespinnaker** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:53 am

I wonder if the clip will act as a pedometer + positional as well, so it can communicate if you're walking/running/jumping/crouching.

I wouldn't be surprised if Jan has partnered with Sixense to provide him with this stuff for their integrated shoe solution.

Post by **TheHolyChicken** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:55 am

geekmaster wrote:Notice how it has the same "Development Kit" label as the Rift DK?

Not only the same text, but exactly the same colour and font!

Wild speculation is fun.

Post by **RoTaToR** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:56 am

colocolo wrote:then this Revolution banner was only a joke preparing us for today....

yep! But now we need more infos!
* Why so many buttons?
* Weight?
* battery time?
* STEM for positional tracking?
* "Either three of five trackers, depending on how you interpret the wording (two of which are handheld)" <<-- dont understand, i only see 3. 0_o
* Release Date?

Post by **remosito** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:58 am

but, but, but...

I would have liked support for 10 of those belt clip thingsies...

"One beltclip thingsie is enough" seems even more shortsighted than "640k memory is enough"....

on other news:

Hoooray for a wireless Hydra V2

Post by **ElectroPulse** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:00 am

Heck yes! I was getting very worried when it sounded like the Hydra was being discontinued and not being replaced...

Sixense, catch!

Now I just hope the latency is uber-low... I have a Hydra (only tried it a couple of times thus far), and the latency is quite annoying... That, and hopefully decent build quality. Any word on whether they'll sell their souls to Razer again?

Post by **blazespinnaker** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:00 am

RoTaToR wrote:
colocolo wrote:then this Revolution banner was only a joke preparing us for today....
yep! But now we need more infos!
* Why so many buttons?
* Weight?
* battery time?
* STEM for positional tracking?
* "Either three of five trackers, depending on how you interpret the wording (two of which are handheld)" <<-- dont understand, i only see 3. 0_o
* Release Date?

The buttons make sense as these things will be your controller. Think switching weapons, reloading, etc.

5 is interesting, notice the two ports on either side of the clip. Maybe for shoe clips?

Post by **virror** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:05 am

Amazing news : D
Need more info!

Post by **alekki** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:07 am

Take all my money!

At least in the render, the box thing on the base station looks way bigger than the sphere in Hydra. Could a stronger magnetic field allow longer range?

Post by **ElectroPulse** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:08 am

Oh, wow, just saw the comments about the other trackers... I figured that "3 trackers" meant that they were integrating more trackers into the controllers for better precision.

3 (plus two extra to buy separately)? Heck yes, please! It's really awesome that they're integrating the third tracker (and places to charge another two) into the design of it, rather than it being an after-thought... Shows they're gearing it specifically for VR

Post by **geekmaster** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:13 am

TheHolyChicken wrote:
geekmaster wrote:Notice how it has the same "Development Kit" label as the Rift DK?
Not only the same text, but exactly the same colour and font!
Wild speculation is fun.

Same color and texture too, as though it was DESIGNED to be a Rift accessory!

Post by **blazespinnaker** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:16 am

Yeah, development kit, means early release hardware that doesn't have all the kinks worked out.

:p

Oh well, better than nothing I guess!

Post by **MrGreen** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:20 am

virror wrote:Need more info!

YES!

alekki wrote:At least in the render, the box thing on the base station looks way bigger than the sphere in Hydra. Could a stronger magnetic field allow longer range?

That's my guess as well. It certainly has to allow you to turn around right?

Man this is great. I don't care how much, all I care is WHEN!?

Post by **iarehuuman** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:33 am

They have shown us sympathy! They still love us! Based on the clip this is definitely geared for VR. Seems Sixense loves use a ton.

Post by **LuckyLu** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:45 am

iarehuuman wrote:They have shown us sympathy! They still love us! Based on the clip this is definitely geared for VR. Seems Sixense loves use a ton.

Of course they do, they would be out of business if it wasn't for VR resurection

Post by **RABID** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:56 am

Wild speculation time: I wonder if that clip is to go on the rift headset to give us positional tracking?

Post by **zalo** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:58 am

Hopefully, now that Razer is out of the picture, it will have a higher build quality.

But it's price I'm concerned about. It could end up costing as much as a Rift DK... Which I will gladly pay if it has a tracking radius of 5 meters

That clip very likely is a shirt clip. The neck can only move so many ways. Plus, it needs to work for all future HMDs.

Post by **ElectroPulse** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:01 am

RABID wrote:Wild speculation time: I wonder if that clip is to go on the rift headset to give us positional tracking?

Nah, I wouldn't consider that wild speculation... It's obviously to clip on some other part of your body

Which part is anyone's guess.

If the extra to charging dock things are for ones for your feet, I hope they add support for a sixth before consumer release... One on each feet, one in each hand, one on the belt, and one on the head to add head positional tracking (that way you can bend over and pick stuff up).

EDIT: Hmm... Nevermind. I forgot that Oculus is working on adding positional tracking to the rift itself

Post by **Bleppe** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:10 am

Just when I got my hands on the Hydra

Oh well... I guess it's gonna be a while before these get released... which probably will be around the same time as I get my devkit sometime next year

Post by **Mazhurg** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:29 am

I suspect that the clip is to keep the relative position of the hand controllers oriented with the player motions; i.e. as the player rotates, his "hands" rotate with him.

Post by **Direlight** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:47 am

Very cool, and having tons of buttons is a must have for PC games. I assume it will auto-recharge when plugged into that holster/station, eliminating most battery issues.

I will be purchasing one.

Post by **zerax** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:51 am

joakizmo wrote:http://sixense.com/wireless

This thing needs a hand strap, I can foresee many broken windows with this baby, "playing call of duty" HAND GRENADE