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LG D2342P-PN (Passive)
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One Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:39 pm Posts: 21 
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Monarch73 wrote: Hey, I got a quick question. I also got the D2342P-PN and hooked it up to my machine on the DVI port. For some reason, I can't get the 3D feature to work. The 3D-Mode selector in the OSD-Menu, where you can usualy select if you have a line-interlaced or a side-by-side 3D picture, is always disabled and grayed out. No matter what I do. I also did a factory reset but that had no effect. I tried to contact LG support but I haven't gotten a response in two weeks now. Now I am trying to get some help on the net before I will return it to the store. Thanks for your help in advance. That option works only when monitor is connected thru HDMI cable. Its meant to be grayed out in DVI connection. Your monitor is not faulty, the option is not suppose to work in DVI connection mode. BTW I have same LG Monitor. |
| Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:11 pm |
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One Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:39 pm Posts: 21
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Dilip wrote: Finally purchased D2342P after spending really lot time in search for good product + best price Indeed good monitor and i am able to buy one at 280US$=INRs which is best deal i could ever get in INDIA My Few findings: Decent view angle and yes it really requires you to be 60Cm away from monitor to get best 3D effects so you require to seat little away from monitor. Very light monitor but little wobbly on stand (still it does not collapses though it makes you fear so) screen is non gloss,Provided shades are good for regular ones. clip-on should have frame around glass (Zalman is good enough here). Yes you can notice small lines when you are say 20 Cm near to screen (Approx  ) ( some thing you might have seen with PS2+34" CRT TVs) but nothing practically killing joy if you seat 60Cm away they are barely noticeable. Nothing like 1/2 resolution kill joy of 3D as you got to see it to believe it (Specially for those who think half resolution is worst for 3d Gaming) All demo photograph displayed very good 3D effect for videos well best i found that displayed gaming demo (Lots of +Z depth LOL!) @ Cybereality, Blackshark I have small confusion now: My system i am going to build for this is as follows: Intel Core i5 2400 Pr,MB-DH67BL,Ram Corsair 2X2GB DDR3 1600,1TB WD HDD,Sony DVD RW, Which graphic card well perform better with DDD Drivers 1) MSI NVIDIA Geforce GTX560 Twin frozer II 1GB GDDR5 2) ASUS RADEON EAH6870/2DI2S/1GD5 In past when i had P4 1.6 i have noticed that DDD drivers & IZ3D drivers use to do lots of mess with NVIDIA forceware installed ( I had Geforce 6600 forceware 94). when i use to turn on DDD 3d (Interlace mode) in Titan Quest it automatically turns on Anaglyph3D of NVIDIA. IZ3D never been friendly for me. also read so many things about AMD HD3D does Radeon now more better with DDD & IZ3D Drivers but fairly i don understand much HD3D. Even if i go to ATI path most of review shows GTX560 has more firepower compared to 6870 so i don want to loose Even for non 3D gaming What will be better choice ??? for 280US$ ?? from where and how are you buying that ?  |
| Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:14 pm |
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Cross Eyed!  Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:23 am Posts: 138 Location: Ahmedabad//INDIA
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@Neol: Its not 280US$ its iquivalent Indian Rupees (280x47=13160 INR)
I have purchased it from LG IT Product Disrtibutor in my hometown (City: Ahmedabad State: Gujarat) in INDIA-not online I like to know from those who use ZALMAN does this monitor have Active Barrier (electronically controlled just like shutter glasses) barrier? Thin layer before LCD which saprate left and right eye view or its passive barrier like fix film of LG D2342P which is always on |
| Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:07 pm |
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One Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:39 pm Posts: 21
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dilip, can you post the contact information here ? (email/phone)
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| Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:07 pm |
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Cross Eyed! Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:23 am Posts: 138 Location: Ahmedabad//INDIA
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Its just matter of time you can buy it even cheap from amazon now
its just 264 US$ So don be surprized Its just normal LED + Thin mircro film with horizontal interleaved lines of different polarization it must be even cheaper for LG in mass production And soon it will be cheaper for us all !!! cheears! |
| Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:56 am |
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Cross Eyed! Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:23 am Posts: 138 Location: Ahmedabad//INDIA
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I have noticed one strange phenomena
With EA’s Lord of the Rings BATTLE FOR MIDDLE EARTH (EA RTS-based on LOTR) This game runs pretty smooth with DDD drivers and I played it in 1280X960 resolutions with full screen mode still it looked very nice and I enjoyed good 3D depth When I tried to play Avatar even at 1650X1080 resolution (So that I can get smooth frame rate I have still not purchased graphics card and experimenting with Core i5 internal graphics-Intel HD 2000) the 3D image was kind of “3D with Multiple Gaps” I can understand as this monitor have Fixed Micro Film it naturally does not support any resolution other then native full HD if you wish to play full screen Then why this does not applied to BATTLE FOR MIDDLE EARTH |
| Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:40 am |
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3D Angel Eyes (Moderator)  Joined: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:18 pm Posts: 10034
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Avatar is a native supported game and must be played in native resolution (1920x1080). The DDD driver can dynamically scale games from different resolutions to 1080P (or whatever else the monitor might need). So you are not limited to run the game at native resolution, the DDD driver will upscale. Also, do not try to launch Avatar from the DDD launcher, since this will go into double 3D mode and not work at all. Just open Avatar normally and select "line-interleaved" as the 3D option.
Also, $264 is a nice price. I may have to pick one up. _________________  |
| Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:06 pm |
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One Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:52 pm Posts: 3
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I managed to figure out that my HDMI issues (blurry 23/24/30Hz) are definitely an NVIDIA driver issue. Working around all the other hideous bugs in newer releases of the NVIDIA driver (needing a custom resolution to have actual RGB 0-255 levels regardless of setting), a custom resolution of 1080p @23.976Hz works perfectly with no blurriness on driver 266.58 (not suggesting using that version as there are horrible bugs with resolution/refresh rate changes in the control panel being completely screwed up). The black levels are still not auto-set correctly on the display but I have had that working previously on 275.33.
At least now I know the monitor works correctly - it is just the drivers that are terrible. To think I switched from ATI because NVIDIA had more stable drivers! I don't really care enough about 24p to suffer through the about 5 steps to get it to work each time, so I'll just wait for the next WHQL driver and see if that fixes the problem. |
| Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:24 am |
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One Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:23 pm Posts: 19
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The monitor is going about $250 on Newegg right now
 It's open box though: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 824005254R |
| Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:05 pm |
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One Eyed Hopeful  Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 9:12 am Posts: 17
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^ Open boxes are all gone ... the price fluctuations on this monitor are odd. New pricing of $264 to $300 to $349 and back to $300 in less than a month.
I still can't decide whether to go this way (passive) and spend $40 as a NVidia card owner for iZ3d for the one title (iRacing) which does *not* work with DDD, or save $ until I can get the Planar active-shutter + glasses (or if it's good enough, Viewsonic's V3D245) and use the 3d Vision driverset. (DDD doesn't work with iRacing because iRacing doesn't launch the executable directly but instead uses a web page to invoke a local service which in turn calls the executable; I believe this is a convoluted but effective anti-hacking technique ... important when the top oval and top road-course driver will win $10k real cash each). |
| Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:51 pm |
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3D Angel Eyes (Moderator) Joined: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:18 pm Posts: 10034
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If you have the money, the Nvidia 3D Vision is probably the better route. I mean, I bet this monitor looks great for the price, but its not going to be full 1080P. More importantly, the viewing angles will be limited, which can get annoying at times (especially if you use a racing wheel and may not be sitting completely still). But if you only have $300 to spend you probably won't get a better deal than this.
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| Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:15 pm |
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One Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:33 am Posts: 4
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I bought the LG DM2350D monitor/TV recently, but returned it because there were annoying vertical scan-type lines visible in 3D mode whenever there was movement in the picture. I also spotted these lines during a store demo of the LG D2342P monitor. Has anyone else seen these lines?
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| Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:18 pm |
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Golden Eyed Wiseman! (or woman!)  Joined: Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:06 pm Posts: 1897 Location: Perpignan, France
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I'm surprised to hear about vertical lines, didn't you want to say horizontal black lines, which should be normal with such a technology ?
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| Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:41 pm |
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3D Angel Eyes (Moderator) Joined: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:18 pm Posts: 10034
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@cabot001: This is a little confusing to me when you say vertical scan-lines. I guess you mean horizontal, since these are horizontally interleaved monitors (FPR). But this is a passive display. The lines are always visible and static. They should not be moving at all, or be effected by moving images. I think what you mean to say is that you saw aliasing artifacts, which appear as jagged edges. This is sometimes called a staircasing effect, which can be strange to look at. Is that what you are talking about?
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| Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:01 pm |
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One Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:33 am Posts: 4
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Thanks to Cybereality and Fredz for your quick replies. No, I didn't mean the alternating horizontal black rows of pixels that are visible on a passive 3D monitor. These are faint vertical lines, evenly spaced that appear in 3D mode whenever there is a reasonable amount of movement (e.g. a character moving across the screen or a panning shot). They are spaced a lot more widely than the pixel spacing, maybe every 20/30 pixels or so. Perhaps you could call it banding? Anyway, They were definitely there on the DM2350D that I bought and on a D2342P monitor I saw in another shop. Maybe these were from a bad batch or maybe it is a motion artefact problem that is present in all the models that may be put right with a firmware upgrade. I know that another 23" LG 3D monitor will be available soon with an IPS display. I shall be checking this one out as soon as I can with a view to replacing my 22" Zalman.
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| Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:42 pm |
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3D Angel Eyes (Moderator) Joined: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:18 pm Posts: 10034
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Interesting. I'm still not sure I understand what you mean, but I believe that you saw something. Don't think I've ever seen that though.
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| Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:38 pm |
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Cross Eyed!
Joined: Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:07 am Posts: 173 Location: Hungary
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Exactly the same reasons, why i selled my Zalman!
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| Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:57 am |
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One Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:24 pm Posts: 5
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Hey Guys, so I am planning on buying the D2342 P, I did a lot of research and your forum helped a lot too. Went through the entire blog. Does anyone by chance know where this product can be tested before being bought because all I see are online retailers on amazon and ebay and newegg. I am from ottawa and its surprising that theres no retailer that carries the monitor. Also a couple of quick questions, I have heard mixed reviews about the monitor, worst one being the cnet review but i never trust those idiots.
1) I was wondering if I can hook my xbox 360 to it and play gears of war 3 or crysis 2 in 3D. Also, since i have the pro version that doesnt take hdmi out, can i connect vga and get a decent 3d experience? If not, will an xbox 360 elite with hdmi out port work instead? 2) Also for my PC, i have an ATI HD5570 2gb in crossfire, does this gpu have to be compatible with hdmi 1.4a or will my set up work with the iz3d driver? 3) Final question, is the 2d to 3d conversion decent, I mean could I watch say Fast 5 with the iz3d 2d to 3d media converter on lg's 2d to 3d mode and have a decent experience? Thanks a lot guys, any help is really appreciated. |
| Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:37 pm |
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Cross Eyed! Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:23 am Posts: 138 Location: Ahmedabad//INDIA
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I own this monitor from last 2 Months
2D to 3D conversion is subjective what you wish to see some movies look decent while others just crap! Overall experince is mixed bag Its not so satifactory as it sounds. you can judge, if you see both real 3D and converted 3D I have seen Avatar Converted and Avatar Actual 3D both on this monitor and i bet actual is 100 times better to converted. Converted 3D is like 3D Fantacy kids book, where you open the book and 3D castle apperas in front of your eyes.this is done by simply cutting and adjusting pictures at differnet level. i hope you got my point some thing which is not shot in 3D can not be converted to perfect 3D at least in live striming ( by using Normal DVD+Conversion Software) Though latest sofware do little justice. overall it looks FAKE (in most cases) so for 3D conversion i would say don Make this your purchase decision factor. Other wise monitor is really value for money as DDD gives excellent result with Most new popular games and its not too tough to be in good viewing angle.other side Passive glasses are really comfortable you can play more then an hour or two without eye fatigue. |
| Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:19 am |
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One Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:37 pm Posts: 1
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I am planning to buy LG D2342P monitor for 3d design/development , Please advice me which display card is better suited ?
is Nvidia GetForce GTX-560 good for this monitor ? Thanks Kiran |
| Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:21 am |
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One Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:52 pm Posts: 35
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Electronics Expo has the LG D2342P-PN 23 inch Passive Cinema 3D LED LCD Monitor for $264 - $51 off with coupon code BIGBEN + $20 shipping = $233 shipped.
I picked one up finally. Too bad they offer free shipping through Amazon, yet on their (Electronics Expo) page shipping is $20. With free shipping that would be a sweet deal at $213! I'm thinking of bothering them to refund the difference. |
| Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:31 pm |
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One Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:35 pm Posts: 7
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Scratch that.
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| Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:00 pm |
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One Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:17 pm Posts: 26
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Passive 3D is really nice for TV sets, since the drop in resolution probably isn't as noticeable at a distance, and the ability to use clip-on 3D lenses is a much larger plus for a TV. People like me with poor eyesight have no trouble using active shutter glasses with a PC monitor, since you obviously have to be close to the screen in that scenario, and therefore nearsightedness isn't a problem. When it comes to TVs though, I NEED to wear my prescription glasses to order to make anything out on the screen, which is pretty much impossible to do in combination with active shutter glasses. This won't apply to everyone, but for people like me, clip-on passive 3D lenses are a godsend if you go the TV route.
The only reason I could give for recommending a passive 3D monitor is how much cheaper it is compared to the competition. I believe this is the cheapest 3D monitor you can get on Newegg right now, so if you REALLY need to save some money, this is an alright choice. Personally, I recommend always going active 3D whenever possible when it comes to PC monitors. |
| Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:25 pm |
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Binocular Vision CONFIRMED!
Joined: Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:08 am Posts: 293
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I'm thinking of getting one of these but i still have a couple of concerns. The manual says that the 3D mode only works over HDMI. I have a computer than can play 1080p interlaced OK and is HDCP compliant with my Panasonic AE900 but I only have DVI output. I'm using a DVI-HDMI adaptor to output to my projector. I wonder if I might have some issues with this The fact that my nVidia control panel says that my output is HDCP compliant makes me think that I might be OK.
The other concern I have is that if the 3D only works over HDMI then I won't be able to use it via D-sub from my Laptop which I use for the net and YT3D clips etc. I read that the interlaced screen must be fixed if its for passive 3D but I'm wondering if over D-sub and DVI, the monitor somehows stays in 2D mode and only shows a side by side image. They may have some way of doing this and so it might limit the usage I can get from the monitor. Thanks for any help Gae43 |
| Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:36 pm |
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Petrif-Eyed  Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:35 pm Posts: 2399 Location: Kiev, ukraine
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Right, I looked at the one at the store near my house once again, and this time I did notice the _vertical_ lines (yes, I'm not talking about the horizontal interlace lines),- the best that I can describe them is that they looked like faint vertical nonmoving scanlines - the demo setup was running a video of a game road of some kind and the lines seemed to be visible towards the sides where there was more motion - but I can't really confirm that as it could be my polluted judgement from reading this thread. It's really hard to decide- they weren't a "killer" or an obvious defect, but I don't recall seeing anything similar on the zalman 3d 24' when I had it for a few days before I returned it.
Are they present in all displays? _________________ Oculus Rift / 3d Sucks - 2D FTW!!! |
| Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:48 am |
 
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3D Angel Eyes (Moderator) Joined: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:18 pm Posts: 10034
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I haven't seen any vertical lines like that with the Zalman or with 3D Vision.
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| Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:15 pm |
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Petrif-Eyed Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:35 pm Posts: 2399 Location: Kiev, ukraine
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cybereality wrote: I haven't seen any vertical lines like that with the Zalman or with 3D Vision. exactly. neither have I with the zalman. I've did some googling and seems some other people have noticed this with this display as well. I don't think it's a "one off" defect or even a common defect- I think it's present in all of them and many people just don't notice them. this is sad- I think I'll still hold out for the zalman for now. http://www.avforums.com/forums/lg-forum ... itors.html _________________ Oculus Rift / 3d Sucks - 2D FTW!!! |
| Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:17 pm |
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Cross Eyed! Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:23 am Posts: 138 Location: Ahmedabad//INDIA
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Sorry yury let posting
Nope i don see any vertical line anomaly Its just fine clean display 2D or 3D |
| Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:10 pm |
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One Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:43 pm Posts: 2
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I've been using a Passive LG tv
3D depth is amazing. At 1080 rez, the TV will interlace the 3dvision alt-frames into a smooth flicker free show The interlacing does greatly effect small print text, making it mildly difficult at worst. However, i only notice the problem on horizontal lines of less than 3pixels line width Standard text is not notably affected, and natural enviroment is visually improved (like old-school "3D-Acceleration") as a bonus No issues with Skyrim  |
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