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Dom
Sharp Eyed Eagle!
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:30 pm Posts: 483
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I think you would have to open up the glasses and switch the wiring like they did to make 3d vision glasses only see 2d except left eyes for right and right eye for left. Might void your warrenty and is not easy to do. The thing is how do you suppose an inverter box could work with 3d vision? Hook something to the emitter box? I heard someone doing that in the DIY section maybe look there.
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| Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:14 pm |
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skrubol
Two Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:47 pm Posts: 98
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swapping the wiring in the glasses is definitely easier than inverting the signal at the transmitter. To do that you need to understand the timings of the signals and send the opposite one.
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| Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:14 pm |
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The_Nephilim
Sharp Eyed Eagle!
Joined: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:38 am Posts: 461 Location: 3rd Stone from the Sun
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Well just by looking at the 3D Vision glasses it looks as if the circuit board is in each side of the Arm of the Glasses. The Wires would be on the outside of the glasses and not to clean??. I would also have to lengthen each wire.. I dont think I want to do the wire switch???
I will either have to wear them upside down or get help making an inverter!!
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| Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:23 pm |
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cybereality
3D Angel Eyes (Moderator)
Joined: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:18 pm Posts: 10152
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I recall someone figured out a hack so they didn't have to wear the glasses upside-down or maybe I'm just imagining things.
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The_Nephilim
Sharp Eyed Eagle!
Joined: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:38 am Posts: 461 Location: 3rd Stone from the Sun
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a hack with the drivers or the emitter unit??
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cybereality
3D Angel Eyes (Moderator)
Joined: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:18 pm Posts: 10152
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No, some physical hack. I just don't remember what it was (or maybe I'm confusing things).
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Nick3DvB
Binocular Vision CONFIRMED!
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:51 am Posts: 293 Location: UK
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Dom
Sharp Eyed Eagle!
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:30 pm Posts: 483
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I will test it now, will post on my results.
_________________System Specs: 2x Amd phenom ii x6 1055T Asus Motherboard DDR3-16GB Microsoft x6 keyboard - x5 mouse - vx 3000 webcam Soundblaster Hs-1200 headset - 900mhz headset - voice buddy3x 5.1 audio system, sony, yamaha, logitech Blu-ray drive Acer H5360 3D-Ready Projector 2x 32 inch 60hz anaglyph1080p workstation monitor/tv/gaming Nvidia 3D vision Kit 3x dlp link 3d glasses Edimensional wireless glasses, 2x wired glasses Nvidia Gtx 670 superclocked 4 GB Nvidia Gts 450 ddr5 OC 810mhz 1024 GB Physx card Ati 6450 1GB Workstation/Internet Nvidia 7600gs 256mb JVC - Digital SD Camcorder 800x zoom x2 Amd htpc, Server, Playbook and netbook Windows 8 x2 waiting for autostereo cubed pixels displays:) http://www.adaptengagecns.com
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| Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:54 pm |
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Nick3DvB
Binocular Vision CONFIRMED!
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:51 am Posts: 293 Location: UK
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Thanks! Do your Edimensional glasses normally take sync from the VGA dongle? I have been wondering if the Nvidia emitter could work as a stand-alone emitter just using its VESA sync port? Maybe on a rear-projection DLPTV without the USB connected to the PC at all? The VESA sync port has 5v power so it could work? I think there are going to be a few of them going cheap on eBay now...
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| Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:06 pm |
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Dom
Sharp Eyed Eagle!
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:30 pm Posts: 483
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Yes i get the sync from my dongle as my wired e-dims are connected directly to the dongle. And i activate them with a software application.
_________________System Specs: 2x Amd phenom ii x6 1055T Asus Motherboard DDR3-16GB Microsoft x6 keyboard - x5 mouse - vx 3000 webcam Soundblaster Hs-1200 headset - 900mhz headset - voice buddy3x 5.1 audio system, sony, yamaha, logitech Blu-ray drive Acer H5360 3D-Ready Projector 2x 32 inch 60hz anaglyph1080p workstation monitor/tv/gaming Nvidia 3D vision Kit 3x dlp link 3d glasses Edimensional wireless glasses, 2x wired glasses Nvidia Gtx 670 superclocked 4 GB Nvidia Gts 450 ddr5 OC 810mhz 1024 GB Physx card Ati 6450 1GB Workstation/Internet Nvidia 7600gs 256mb JVC - Digital SD Camcorder 800x zoom x2 Amd htpc, Server, Playbook and netbook Windows 8 x2 waiting for autostereo cubed pixels displays:) http://www.adaptengagecns.com
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| Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:09 pm |
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Dom
Sharp Eyed Eagle!
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:30 pm Posts: 483
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I don't know what i am doing wrong but the USB input device failed to install.
I ran the dsf x64 installer then clicked init_x64.bat , that loaded and closed then i clicked enablestereo.bat , brings up the console and starts to install the drivers for emulation but it fails to install the input driver. Do I need to uninstall my stereo dongle driver from nvidia you think?
_________________System Specs: 2x Amd phenom ii x6 1055T Asus Motherboard DDR3-16GB Microsoft x6 keyboard - x5 mouse - vx 3000 webcam Soundblaster Hs-1200 headset - 900mhz headset - voice buddy3x 5.1 audio system, sony, yamaha, logitech Blu-ray drive Acer H5360 3D-Ready Projector 2x 32 inch 60hz anaglyph1080p workstation monitor/tv/gaming Nvidia 3D vision Kit 3x dlp link 3d glasses Edimensional wireless glasses, 2x wired glasses Nvidia Gtx 670 superclocked 4 GB Nvidia Gts 450 ddr5 OC 810mhz 1024 GB Physx card Ati 6450 1GB Workstation/Internet Nvidia 7600gs 256mb JVC - Digital SD Camcorder 800x zoom x2 Amd htpc, Server, Playbook and netbook Windows 8 x2 waiting for autostereo cubed pixels displays:) http://www.adaptengagecns.com
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Nick3DvB
Binocular Vision CONFIRMED!
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:51 am Posts: 293 Location: UK
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Yes try re-installing the nvidia emitter driver with the emulator window still running, maybe reboot first though, can you see anything listed in device manager? You might also want to disable user account control, run the bats as admin, and if your Antivirus has a script blocker turn it off. You have unplugged the real emitter right?
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| Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:32 pm |
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Dom
Sharp Eyed Eagle!
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:30 pm Posts: 483
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Yes I unplugged the emitter but I will try to install the stereoscopic emitter software this time. It could be just my system as it never wanted to install hacked software.
_________________System Specs: 2x Amd phenom ii x6 1055T Asus Motherboard DDR3-16GB Microsoft x6 keyboard - x5 mouse - vx 3000 webcam Soundblaster Hs-1200 headset - 900mhz headset - voice buddy3x 5.1 audio system, sony, yamaha, logitech Blu-ray drive Acer H5360 3D-Ready Projector 2x 32 inch 60hz anaglyph1080p workstation monitor/tv/gaming Nvidia 3D vision Kit 3x dlp link 3d glasses Edimensional wireless glasses, 2x wired glasses Nvidia Gtx 670 superclocked 4 GB Nvidia Gts 450 ddr5 OC 810mhz 1024 GB Physx card Ati 6450 1GB Workstation/Internet Nvidia 7600gs 256mb JVC - Digital SD Camcorder 800x zoom x2 Amd htpc, Server, Playbook and netbook Windows 8 x2 waiting for autostereo cubed pixels displays:) http://www.adaptengagecns.com
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Nick3DvB
Binocular Vision CONFIRMED!
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:51 am Posts: 293 Location: UK
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Files Attatched! & also here: http://hotfile.com/dl/111389928/3d22e5e ... r.zip.htmlThe great thing about this "hack" is that NO Nvidia files are modified, Microsoft wrote 99% of it, our Russian friend just made a small patch to SoftHidReceiver.dll - genius! I still scanned everything and it's 100% clean & very stable on my system: http://www.virustotal.com/file-scan/rep ... 1300919211
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Dom
Sharp Eyed Eagle!
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:30 pm Posts: 483
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I guess i might not be able to test this out.
I unplugged my nvidia dongle loaded the enablestereo.bat with dsf x64 installed and also loading the init_x64.bat and the enablestereo.bat console pops up and trys to load the drivers for input device and i checked the device in device manager and it shows it as "cannot start code 10"
I tried without and with the nvidia stereoscopic emitter drivers and both don't load this emulated driver. Sounds like everyone else can get it to work though. I kind of wanted to use it without my other edid hack.
_________________System Specs: 2x Amd phenom ii x6 1055T Asus Motherboard DDR3-16GB Microsoft x6 keyboard - x5 mouse - vx 3000 webcam Soundblaster Hs-1200 headset - 900mhz headset - voice buddy3x 5.1 audio system, sony, yamaha, logitech Blu-ray drive Acer H5360 3D-Ready Projector 2x 32 inch 60hz anaglyph1080p workstation monitor/tv/gaming Nvidia 3D vision Kit 3x dlp link 3d glasses Edimensional wireless glasses, 2x wired glasses Nvidia Gtx 670 superclocked 4 GB Nvidia Gts 450 ddr5 OC 810mhz 1024 GB Physx card Ati 6450 1GB Workstation/Internet Nvidia 7600gs 256mb JVC - Digital SD Camcorder 800x zoom x2 Amd htpc, Server, Playbook and netbook Windows 8 x2 waiting for autostereo cubed pixels displays:) http://www.adaptengagecns.com
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Nick3DvB
Binocular Vision CONFIRMED!
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:51 am Posts: 293 Location: UK
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Very strange? You should only run the init.bat once, if you have done it several times maybe uninstall DSF and start over. Maybe try using the DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES variable to remove ghost devices: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315539I'd also reboot between each step, not sure what else to suggest? Good luck with it, I hope you get it working. 
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Dom
Sharp Eyed Eagle!
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:30 pm Posts: 483
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So good news, I got it working! Just had to reboot after each step and turn off UAC user account control. I had the nvidia stereoscopic emitter drivers uninstalled and when loading enablestereo.bat it was asking for the drivers now. So i installed nvidia stereoscopic emitter drivers and now its working. I guess the main problem i was having was the UAC cause once I turned that off and loaded the init_x64.bat and rebooted everything else seemed to work. I also tested this out with my e-dims on my projector connected to a e-dim dongle with wired glasses. The nvidia stereoconnection is "generic crt monitor" and I can see stereo with my glasses just the same as with my nvidia hardware emitter connected.  Glad its working, now to tell the whole community about it. 
_________________System Specs: 2x Amd phenom ii x6 1055T Asus Motherboard DDR3-16GB Microsoft x6 keyboard - x5 mouse - vx 3000 webcam Soundblaster Hs-1200 headset - 900mhz headset - voice buddy3x 5.1 audio system, sony, yamaha, logitech Blu-ray drive Acer H5360 3D-Ready Projector 2x 32 inch 60hz anaglyph1080p workstation monitor/tv/gaming Nvidia 3D vision Kit 3x dlp link 3d glasses Edimensional wireless glasses, 2x wired glasses Nvidia Gtx 670 superclocked 4 GB Nvidia Gts 450 ddr5 OC 810mhz 1024 GB Physx card Ati 6450 1GB Workstation/Internet Nvidia 7600gs 256mb JVC - Digital SD Camcorder 800x zoom x2 Amd htpc, Server, Playbook and netbook Windows 8 x2 waiting for autostereo cubed pixels displays:) http://www.adaptengagecns.com
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Nick3DvB
Binocular Vision CONFIRMED!
Joined: Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:51 am Posts: 293 Location: UK
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Glad you are up and running. I have posted this in a few places already, but help spread the word! I was thinking about starting a dedicted thread but for the moment we could continue this one: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9990&start=30 
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| Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:19 pm |
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lish
One Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:16 am Posts: 31
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Wow, I think I need to speed up the development of the emitter viewtopic.php?f=26&t=13012, so it can suit for NVDIA 3D vision and IZ3d. 
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Silverio
One Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:37 am Posts: 17 Location: Latvia
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i use x3d shutter glasses on 6800 with crt i can turn on glasses on xp/vista/7 on xp i use 162.50 on vista/7 iz3d i think if something change in regedit,or who have nvision,attach nvidia here and i will checkin
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| Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:58 am |
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Dom
Sharp Eyed Eagle!
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:30 pm Posts: 483
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Hi, I think you will need a newer video card like at least an 8000 series card. Nvidia 3d vision only works from like 8400 - gtx590 i think. Other than that you should be able to get stereo3d to work with your setup on windows 7 with this software emitter emulator.
_________________System Specs: 2x Amd phenom ii x6 1055T Asus Motherboard DDR3-16GB Microsoft x6 keyboard - x5 mouse - vx 3000 webcam Soundblaster Hs-1200 headset - 900mhz headset - voice buddy3x 5.1 audio system, sony, yamaha, logitech Blu-ray drive Acer H5360 3D-Ready Projector 2x 32 inch 60hz anaglyph1080p workstation monitor/tv/gaming Nvidia 3D vision Kit 3x dlp link 3d glasses Edimensional wireless glasses, 2x wired glasses Nvidia Gtx 670 superclocked 4 GB Nvidia Gts 450 ddr5 OC 810mhz 1024 GB Physx card Ati 6450 1GB Workstation/Internet Nvidia 7600gs 256mb JVC - Digital SD Camcorder 800x zoom x2 Amd htpc, Server, Playbook and netbook Windows 8 x2 waiting for autostereo cubed pixels displays:) http://www.adaptengagecns.com
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Silverio
One Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:37 am Posts: 17 Location: Latvia
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i forgot write that i can test on 8800 gts 640
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Silverio
One Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:37 am Posts: 17 Location: Latvia
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rename to .jps
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