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One Eyed Hopeful

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Merde,
I bought the nvidia shutter glasses and tried to get them working with my system, but failed to run the wizard. :evil:

I own a Siemens Fujitsu CRT Monitor MCM 21T2 (1280x1024 100HZ).
http://www.amazon.de/Fujitsu-Siemens-21 ... B000123LBM
I run the "is your system ready" tool on the nvidia site, after I have realized that there was no way to set up my system. It said that everything was fine - except my monitor.

Can that be? Does it relate to that vista recognized the monitor as a standard monitor only? I have failed to find a 64bit OS driver for the monitor to change that.

Anyone out there that has an idea? Much appreciated.
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Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:09 am
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Try to find a brand specific monitor driver. The driver might not be telling the NVIDIA driver that your monitor is capable of 100Hz or more.

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One Eyed Hopeful

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Well, that was my idea as well. But I failed to find a driver that is accepted by vista 64bit ---the monitor seems to be to old.


Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:45 pm
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Look up Rivatuner. There may be a way to customize or fake a driver.

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Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:48 pm
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In the NVIDIA Vista drivers control panel, there is an option for adding customized resolutions. You can use it to add a resolution and refresh rate that you know your monitor supports. I've used it in the past to add a resolution of 1280x960 at 120 Hz for my old CRT monitor because there were no Vista monitor drivers available. However, even if you get the resolution and refresh rate added, I don't know if it will make the NVIDIA stereo driver and glasses work as I don't have any experience with them.

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Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:55 pm
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One Eyed Hopeful

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Thx for all your hints. I contacted the nvidia helpdesk and although it seemed at the beginning as if they were only reading the first sentence of my question, they were extremely helpful in the end. So that's how you can use the glasses with a CRT monitor which is not properly (which means 100Hz capable) detected by the nvidia control panel:


1. Plugg in another LCD along side your CRT, set to LCD display only
2. Plug in the USB emitter / turn on the glasses
3. On the LCD run the nvidia set-up wizard. You have to "fake" that eyerything is fine - guess the answers to the tests as if the 3D Monitor would work.
4. Enable stereo in the nvidia set up
5. Switch back to the CRT monitor, turn off the LCD
6. Check if the settings within the nvidia control panel show anaglyph or CRT, change it if needed - that does that trick.

Huray! Thx again guys, hope this info might help someone else.


Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:42 am
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Thanks, nice to know! Can I put it on my website?


Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:01 pm
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One Eyed Hopeful

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sure go ahead and spread the word. But no guarantee - at least it worked in my case.
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Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:36 am
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thanks :D


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I had a few problems getting my CRT running also. My solution (posted in the nVidia forum) may be helpful to some:

I have the same problem with the error ("StereoCPLAPI returned invalid refresh rate (80) from StereoLauncer->getDefaultModeInfo.") when trying to start the wizard. Tried Rivatuner refresh force, 3 CRTs, and newer (1.04) drivers and eventually got it working.

Vista64
C2D
4 GB ram
GTX280
GDM-FW900 (Sony 24" CRT)

Wizard would not start with 1.00 or 1.04 drivers on either my GDM FW900 or and old 15" Dell CRT.
Wizard did start with 1.04 drivers and Sony 21" CRT.
Driver did not detect 3D compatable monitor. I picked the CRT option anyway.
Octagon/triangle test did not work until I used Rivatuner to force 100Hz refresh at all low resolutions. (The rediculously low resolution of the wizard may be a source of many people's problems. It does not appear to run at the desktop resolution. Also, the new display driver does not enable as many supported res/refresh combos as the 178s for some reason. I had to make a buch of custom ones.)
The greyscale 'square in square' test image looked great, but I could not check "next". It was greyed out for some reason. Esc did not work. Eventually I got past that part by finding the registry keys:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\Stereo3D]
StereoDefaultOn 0 -> 1
StereoVisionConfirmed 0 -> 1

This allowed me to tick the "enable 3D stereo" in the driver and re-install my good monitor. If I tried the wizard again, I still could not get past the Square 3D image test and had to reset the registry again. Everything seems to be working fine now, but what a pain. Another Saturday wasted.....

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Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:01 pm
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This is the kind of solution you can do when you know something about the registry entries. That's the whole point of a topic I've started called "Post registry entry info here". Would someone please post some vista/3d-vision registry entries to that topic so that we can figure out more solutions like this one.

Thanks in advance.


Tue May 12, 2009 10:57 pm
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Two Eyed Hopeful

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DDuckMan wrote:
I had a few problems getting my CRT running also. My solution (posted in the nVidia forum) may be helpful to some:

I have the same problem with the error ("StereoCPLAPI returned invalid refresh rate (80) from StereoLauncer->getDefaultModeInfo.") when trying to start the wizard. Tried Rivatuner refresh force, 3 CRTs, and newer (1.04) drivers and eventually got it working.

Vista64
C2D
4 GB ram
GTX280
GDM-FW900 (Sony 24" CRT)

Wizard would not start with 1.00 or 1.04 drivers on either my GDM FW900 or and old 15" Dell CRT.
Wizard did start with 1.04 drivers and Sony 21" CRT.
Driver did not detect 3D compatable monitor. I picked the CRT option anyway.
Octagon/triangle test did not work until I used Rivatuner to force 100Hz refresh at all low resolutions. (The rediculously low resolution of the wizard may be a source of many people's problems. It does not appear to run at the desktop resolution. Also, the new display driver does not enable as many supported res/refresh combos as the 178s for some reason. I had to make a buch of custom ones.)
The greyscale 'square in square' test image looked great, but I could not check "next". It was greyed out for some reason. Esc did not work. Eventually I got past that part by finding the registry keys:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\Stereo3D]
StereoDefaultOn 0 -> 1
StereoVisionConfirmed 0 -> 1

This allowed me to tick the "enable 3D stereo" in the driver and re-install my good monitor. If I tried the wizard again, I still could not get past the Square 3D image test and had to reset the registry again. Everything seems to be working fine now, but what a pain. Another Saturday wasted.....


Same problem here.. it's also known on Nvidia's forums. I'm wondering if (and when) Nvidia is ever going to fix this? Post 182.00 drivers from Nvidia also make it much harder to add custom resolutions, as it literally refuses any of them!

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Thu May 14, 2009 4:53 am
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Two Eyed Hopeful

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When I recently hooked my CRT rig to the LCD monitor, the wizard was actually able to run. Then when I connected it back to my CRT monitor and cleaned the drivers again, then reinstalled, the wizard refused to run. Tried this again with the new 185 drivers.. argh!

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Sun May 17, 2009 12:14 pm
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One Eyed Hopeful

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DDuckMan wrote:
I had a few problems getting my CRT running also. My solution (posted in the nVidia forum) may be helpful to some:

I have the same problem with the error ("StereoCPLAPI returned invalid refresh rate (80) from StereoLauncer->getDefaultModeInfo.") when trying to start the wizard. Tried Rivatuner refresh force, 3 CRTs, and newer (1.04) drivers and eventually got it working.

Vista64
C2D
4 GB ram
GTX280
GDM-FW900 (Sony 24" CRT)


I have the same problem. When wizard runs I've got "Out of sync" on my 21" Dell P1130 (installed driver is GDM-FW900) under Vista64 with 185.85. Not a single one custom resolution helped too :( Do u know which Sony driver is for 21" Dell? I think using the FW900 is the problem. Tnx in advance

Edit: Using iZ3DDriver 1.09 gave me nice blue screen and 20min painfull Windows recovering (for such a problems Vista > XP)


Thu May 21, 2009 9:55 am
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