Sounds like you may have an older Z800 with the old firmware. How old is it?

No its the more recent 6.3E.

It may be that I need to run things on Vista , and from what I gather from some of these posts on the shutterglasses/IZ3d drivers, that I need a S3d frame rate at least more than 30 FPS so the Z800 can sync properly.

Unfortunately the Vista machine is not that fast ( Athlon 3800 +7600GT and 512mb Ram ). I wonder if there is a simple graphics game that will run in 3D that I could test that the Z800 on the Vista machine will Sync properly, before I bit the bullet and put Vista on my main machine. Does anyone have any suggestions that I could download somewhere, a woirking demo maybe. It seems that IZ3d drivers will let the Z800 run in S3d inwindowed mode which is something the Nvidea drivers never did. There wrere so many little games I thought might have been good in 3d but would only run windowed mode.

Mark

For correct shuttering, the FPS in game must match your refresh rate otherwise your glasses could desync. So, example:

if you are running at 80HZ, you need at least more than 80 FPS

Ok, I'll look in world of warcraft and get a FPS. I should be getting at least 60 fps anyway with the 4600 dual core and 9600gt card..I remember I was getting about 40fps in WOW with the Athlon 3800 and 7600GT in S3D.

Three questions:

1. How are we all stopping the auto screensaver without the Z800 3D software? Glovepie?

2. Welder, Im happy to see you in this thread. Now that TDvisor is indefinitely shelved (I so wanted the HD visor!!!!) Z800 is once again the best consumer HMD in existence. Any chance IZ3D could specifically code for it like you did with the VR920?

3. can IZ3D drivers run along side Nvidia 3D drivers? I am running through the Doom3 co-op mod with my friend right now. Also, untill I upgread, Nvidia old drivers would still be better for games that can run 3D with Nvidia drivers due to frame rate issues. Left 4 Dead will not run in S-3D above 60 fps on my 7800 GTX...... Z800 fixed at 60 Hz

2: I am unsure of this unfortunately

3: We always recommend to uninstall the nvidia drivers as a precaution, but it may be possible as long as you set the nvidia 3D to disabled, and vice versa.

I set the highest time out with labtool. This way there is virtually no auto-off option. I turn the z800 displays on/off manually everytime I begin/end my gaming session.
Only one program at a time can have access to the z800.
I don't use the old z800 software anyway 'cos I don't need the keep alive signal thanks to what I said above and I don't use mouse emulation anymore. I prefer not to use headtracking in games that the only option is mouse emulation. Only trackir emulation or joystick emulation for me.Surely it's strange :O I think I'll try and see what happens.

Ok just an update.

A new WOW update was installed . I noted in the new feature notes, it says now compatable with Stereo 3D...as its always worked fine I don't know what changes they could have made.

Results: with Iz3d driver I now get about 5 seconds before the seconds before the frames reverse.

Welder noted that you need a stereo frame rate higher than the refresh rate to avoid frame swapping.
Is the frame rate figure in the top left, created by the driver correct. Its showing around 30fps.
which is only half that required. I used to get 40-45fps with my 93.71 Nvidea drivers with single core Athlon 3800 and Nvidea 7600gt. Now I appear to be getting 30fps with a dial core AMD 6400+ and a Nvidea 9600GT. I have no idea how I will get better than 60fps. I can't afford to spend any more on my rig.

What about Vista 64? Did anyone get 3D on vista 64? Or windows 7?

Hi.

I downloaded the latest driver iz3d (v1.09) to test the 3D glasses Z800 (firmware 6.3E). My graphics card is a Geforce 7600GT SLI under Windows XP SP3 and the latest NVIDIA driver (v182.08). I also downloaded the program eMagin LabTool. The problem I have is that I see the same image for both eyes. The order of execution is:

1) I run the driver iz3d, I active the stereo status and I select the shutter (simple) output.
2) I run LabTool utility and I active the 3D mode (the led of Z800 controller turns green).
3) I open the program 3DCombine, I load the attached test image and I select parallel format.
4) I select the nVidia Stereo, to see the image, and I see only the image of the right eye on both screens . Also, I receive the message error "Can't load output.dll".

Can you help me?

Thanks in advance!

I think that it was a problem with the iz3d driver installation. You'll have to uninsall it and then reinstall but select full installation when prompted.

I have the full installation of iz3d.

I've given up trying to run my z800 with the IZ3D drivers.

My S3d frame rate maxes at 37.5 , but as soon as it drops below 35 the L/R eye loses sync and its unusable.

I have a good CPU and video card so I can't see much more I can do. I also tried it on two differnt PC's and had the same problem.

My old setup with the old Nvidea drivers and 7600GT ran much better.

The Z800 is back in its box again.

My setup works just fine using an ATI 4870, Core i7 CPU and Vista. The 3D is great!

Can you tell me what your frame rate maxes at ? I've got this limit of 37.5 and 30 on my two pc's and as soon as FPS drops below that it loses sync. I can see is that you have a very high end rig there.

Mark

Running at 60hz. I am sure if you are dropping under 30 it will crap out on you. Time to upgrade your processor and video card!

Any chance in re-uploading the source and exe's

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Hi im trying to get the iz3d driver to work with my z800 and vista 32.

What do i need to do as im doing something wrong.
I have the driver downloaded from iz3d, done full instalation with s3d shutter selected, i havnt bought the licence yet as i need to see if it works first would that make a difference.
I have labtool also and 3d enabled in force 3d mode.
I cant get stereo 3d to work.
I have an 8800gtx do i also need the stereo 3d drivers from nvidea as well.

Hi and welcome sgall2775!

Check this thread about the z800. I don't have one myself but this might be useful.

Thanks managed to get it to work problem was i was trying it on doom 3 but theres a hit and miss with what games work.

does the z800 still update their drivers or firmwire? Maybe they can work some thing out with iz3d for better support?

I missed your post, sorry. But, anyway, the files are still there. I have just tried them right now and it downloads without problems.

does it work in games and where can I get a emagin?

It works in the same games that work with shutter glasses, it uses the same signal for stereo-3D. An additional constraint is that the game should run in 800x600.
You can get it from vrealities.com but I'm afraid 2 years ago emagin raised the price from 500$ to 1500$. There is a dual input version that would work with current versions of iz3d drivers but it's over 2000$.

I wonder why would iz3d raise the price for dual input. where can I find the dual input version
and does it downscale to 640x480? didn't iz3d make an adapter for better shutter sync right.

Only 800x600. It doesn't scale any resolution.
vrealities has all z800 versions and there are other sites. Just search at google.
But it's a lot expensive, are you really going for that? It's true that I'm very pleased with mine, but it took me months to get used to it. I almost sold it in the first week.

I've just flicked over from using a 7600GT to a GTX 285 with my Z800.

I've been playing with the IZ3D drivers, but have a few issues.

Is there a key to swap eyes 'in application'? I couldn't see this anywhere.

I also have at least one game that starts up in stereo fine, but after the game loads textures it flicks back to mono. The game is Aces High ( www.flyaceshigh.com ) and always worked well with the old nvidia stereo drivers. Are there any tips or guides for misbehaving games/compatibility issues?

CTRL-F8 will swap the eyes.

Regards,
Neil

never mind

how is the Z800 support I'm thinking about getting one.

It's crap

If you are talking about support from emagin, forget it. I tried emailing them a few times. I got one response that said they would get back to me and never did. My subsequent follow up emails were never responded to at all.

If you are talking about iz3d support for it I can't comment personally but I spoke with one person who said it is terrible.