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un-cap Max Separation Limit?
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RAGEdemon
Binocular Vision CONFIRMED!
Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:34 pm Posts: 282
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Hi fellas,
Is there a way to uncap the max separation from the limit of 5000.50%?
I find that in some games such as RPGs with a top down view, it just isn't enough.
I would really appreciate any help on this.
Regards,
-- Shahzad.
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| Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:46 pm |
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CarlKenner
Binocular Vision CONFIRMED!
Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:22 pm Posts: 332
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Maybe you can adjust the convergence instead?
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| Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:24 pm |
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RAGEdemon
Binocular Vision CONFIRMED!
Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:34 pm Posts: 282
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I like to have the convergence on these top-down games so that the entire scene converges exactly at screen depth so it's like I'm playing on a toy model table... very cool effect. I wouldn't like to change the convergence from this setting as i really like the effect 
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| Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:20 am |
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CarlKenner
Binocular Vision CONFIRMED!
Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:22 pm Posts: 332
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Oh, ok! I thought you were aiming for the "look how far down all those buildings are!" effect.
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| Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:28 am |
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soundstorm
Two Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:38 am Posts: 56
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I guess you tried already manually editing the XML File?
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| Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:39 pm |
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RAGEdemon
Binocular Vision CONFIRMED!
Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:34 pm Posts: 282
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I tried looking intot he XML files in the "Application Data" folder. I could not find any value that might be what I am looking for
"separation" nor "5000" fail to yield any results.
Anyone?
-- Shahzad
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Last edited by RAGEdemon on Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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| Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:18 pm |
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KindDragon
Cross Eyed!
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:05 am Posts: 108 Location: Russia
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You can't uncap the max separation limit, but you can change separation scale <SeparationScale Value="any value" />
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| Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:29 pm |
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soundstorm
Two Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:38 am Posts: 56
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Yaa, KindDragon, thats what I mean. In the XML File you got these:
<One_div_ZPS Value="0.050442" />
<StereoBase Value="1.945508" />
From Medal of Honor Airiborne.
I guess, first one is convergence and second is seperation. Convergence seems to be the same number as ingame, but strangly seperation not. I think ingame i have something aroound 300%, but def. not 1.94%, or 19.4% nor 194%. I dont know, how this numbers is put together.  But try some (high)values, it might work.
Somebody remember the default Standard seperation? Its 20% if Im not mistaken... So the standard default conf XML looks like this:
<One_div_ZPS Value="0.500000" />
<StereoBase Value="0.016000" />
I use Version 1.08.0023, the "old" 1.09 BETA, not BETA2.
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| Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:37 pm |
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RAGEdemon
Binocular Vision CONFIRMED!
Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:34 pm Posts: 282
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Hi KindDragon
Sorry, I have been away.
Thank you for the tip.
However, I cannot seem to get it to work. I assume I'm meant to put the value in teh UserProfiles XML file under C:\Documents and Settings\[username]\Application Data\iZ3D Driver. I have put it towards the top before the profiles start, and under the sacred2 profile. It doesn't seem to have any affect on the game.
The value I am using is "20"
I would really appreciate some help please. It seems that the max separation is just an arbitrary value which should be easy to work around... hopefully using the <SeparationScale Value="20" /> variable.
Best Regards,
-- Shahzad
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| Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:57 pm |
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soundstorm
Two Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:38 am Posts: 56
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Hi RAGEdemon
I tried it and it works! (with Oblivion)
I changed the "StereoBase Value" to a value of 50. Then ingame, if I activate the IZ3D Driver, i get 6500% separation! Mission successful!
Forget the "SeparationScale Value", this command does not exist, at least in my XML... Just change one of the three existing StereoBase Value Presets to a high number. It should work. At least in Oblivion it did, I hope you get it to work too. Good Luck!
Greetings
Phil
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| Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:37 pm |
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RAGEdemon
Binocular Vision CONFIRMED!
Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:34 pm Posts: 282
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Thank You so much soundstorm,
I'll give it a try tonight 
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| Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:21 am |
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KindDragon
Cross Eyed!
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:05 am Posts: 108 Location: Russia
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How doesn't exist? Open config.xml from 1.09 and search SeparationScale. We use it, for example, for Google Earh.
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| Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:25 am |
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soundstorm
Two Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:38 am Posts: 56
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Hm, thats strange... It doesnt exist in UserProfile.xml for Google:
<Profile Name="Google Earth">
<File Name="googleearth.exe" />
<Presets>
<SwapEyes Value="0" />
<LaserSightEnable Value="0" />
<Preset Index="0">
<One_div_ZPS Value="60.875374" />
<StereoBase Value="0.009715" />
<AutoFocusEnable Value="1" />
</Preset>
<Preset Index="1">
<One_div_ZPS Value="-8.775429" />
<StereoBase Value="0.147741" />
<AutoFocusEnable Value="1" />
</Preset>
<Preset Index="2">
<One_div_ZPS Value="0.500000" />
<StereoBase Value="0.016000" />
<AutoFocusEnable Value="0" />
</Preset>
</Presets>
<Keys />
</Profile>
I do not have config.xml.
I also noticed that in Statistic.xml under every Profile there is <DriverVersion Value="1.07.0000" />
Is this a problem? SHould it be 1.09?
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| Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:27 am |
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CarlKenner
Binocular Vision CONFIRMED!
Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:22 pm Posts: 332
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Config.xml is hidden, where you will never, ever find it...
You may have thought you had beaten us when you found c:\Users\soundstorm\AppData\Roaming\iZ3D Driver\UserProfile.xml,
But you will never find C:\Users\soundstorm\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\iZ3D Driver\Config.xml
 Muahahahaha, muahahahaha! 
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| Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:14 am |
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soundstorm
Two Eyed Hopeful
Joined: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:38 am Posts: 56
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Ok, i found it now. Thanks for the info, I did not know this. Config.xml seems to be the Main Config for the driver.
But the solution for RageDemon still stands: Edit the UserProfile.xml and change "StereoBase Value" to a high number. With this method i get 6500% in Oblivion.  No need to cange the Seperation Scale or what do you think?  I imagine also, that the config File gets overwritten with a new install, so changes get lost maybe? In the User XML, it shouldnt...
I just try to help!! Don't be so hard on me!
By the way, my config is here: I:\Documents\All Users\Appliacation Data\iZ3D Driver
And the Userprofile.xml is here: I:\Documents\Soundstorm VFX\Application Data\iZ3D Driver

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| Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:26 am |
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RAGEdemon
Binocular Vision CONFIRMED!
Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:34 pm Posts: 282
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Thanks Guys!
I got KindDragon's tip working with CarlKenner's help. It works fantastic now.
soundstorm, I tried your method but i couldn't get it to work... maybe I was doing something wrong.
Thanks a bunch for your help. Very much appreciated all round.
-- Shahzad.
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