Of course those values depends on the game, -0.0300 and 60% works good for hlaf life 2, for another game like far cry values like -0.0200 and 20% works good...
I posted two images of far cry :
http://www.mtbs3d.com/gallery/displayim ... ?pos=-1285 (this is -0.0200 convergence 20% separation)
http://www.mtbs3d.com/gallery/displayim ... ?pos=-1284 (this is -0.5000 convergence 20% separation)
Which gives the best 3d depth perception for you?

You don't need extreme values to get a good 3d effect. When first learning about S3D is used to jack the values up like crazy and it just gave me a headache. Then I realized its not about the magnitude, its about getting the correct ratio of separation to convergence. For example, just try closing one eye right now and then alternating which one is open. You will find that both images are surprisingly similar. Unless something is right up on your face, it should be at around the same spot for both eyes. That is how you get a nice clean stereo image. If you just want to go for all out depth and out-of-screen effects, then you can jack the values up but it diminishes the experience IMO.

The lower is the convergence the more things will pop out of the screen!! try it with half life 2...
I want to say also that i think there should be a limit of the absolute separation of the two images that form the 3d image of the single objects :
if it is too much (when you get too close to an object with some convergence/separation values) it just ruins the depth perception. There should be a limit and
i think with this the auto convergence feature would become unuseful!!
It would also solve the 'charachter gun' problem in games like far cry, the problem is in fact that the two stereo images of the gun are toooo separated!
Could you do this?

to me, the best setting for separation/convergence is :
NEVER pop-out ! always pop-in.
and
measure on your screen a maximum separation of objects of about 5 centimeters.

each game requires different separation/convergence settings because :
- 3Ddrivers use the standard DirectX scale to measure separation, but each game can have it's own internal scale.
- some games have objects very close to the camera, therefore require a separation close to 0, others have all objetcs far away from the camera, therefore require a lower negative separation.
on my 22" monitor, i found that the default setting (20% -0.5) is quite close the the perfect setting in most games, but some games are completely different (ie tomb raider anniversary)

Pop-out is fun in 3D cinemas, but when in front of your computer, there isn't enough room between you and the screen to allow good pop-out, and objects around the monitor (including the monitor frame itself) will cause visual depth anomalies (objects behind the image hiding the image) and this causes headaches.
this is a very personnal issue, some people actually enjoy having pop-out on their monitors but i don't, so i recommand you try without pop-out first.

And for what concerns an option to limit the max separation between the pair of the 3d images of the objects? It could be setmaxseparation=
Could you add it?
And another tip....can you set an option to put all 2d images (mouse pointer, level of energy and so on) to be all OUTSIDE the monitor? Zalman 3d monitor just
do this and i think that it could be very useful to enanche the 3d expirience expecially with low convergence options that let things pop out (like mine) hheeheh.
Infact if you notice the 3d perception is influenced by the 2d images on the screen and all we incounsciously consider the difference in space between the 2d mouse pointer
and the other 2d images with the 3d world just to see how good is the 3d effect...

Er...
I don't think 'popout' for 2D objects is good:
- many of them have funny values, and tend to dissapear from the screen (just like it was with old NV driver - don't know about the new one).
- it would increase ghosting of the menue, which can be pretty anoying
- I don't think it's easy to program

Maybe others can post even more arguments against it

I have managed to find the good convergence/separation values for dark messiah of mm, but.....well for me they are -0.0030 convergence and 1000% separation!!!!
But that game works wonderfully in stereo 3d! Apart from the sword and shield that are too separated, in fact i play it around with no shield or sword just to see the wonderfull 3d world.

i just said to add an option to set a maximum separation and another to let 2d object to pop out of the screen...options so if you want you can enable it.
Nvidia drivers has such a thing, they even let you select your monitor size in inches to determinate the maximum separation!

I want to post an update to my earlier posts on this thread. Earlier I said that Oblivion and UT3 would not start on my system when using the 1.08 iz3d driver (or the 0036 or 0034 betas). Since that time I reformatted C:, reinstalled Windows, all my apps & games. I then installed the same NVIDIA forceware driver that I used before, same monitor driver, set it up the same way (dual view), etc. Then I installed the 1.08 iz3d driver, and now all my games work!!

I don't know why I was having troubles before, but they're gone now.

Great! Glad you are up and running!

Please feel free to let us know if there is anything you need help with.

Hey anybody like kinddragon or someoneelse want to reply to my proposals?

New windows , new graphics card (GeForce 7900 GTX) new drivers and new memory but Unreal Tournament III still does not works on iz3d drivers 1.08. I have to use version 1.07. Why ???

when is the next version going to be out?

1.09

Regards,
Neil

LOL, He asked WHEN is the next version coming out; not WHAT version is the next coming out.

I think it should be released within a month. When Vadim and his team resolve a good licensing deal for them and us users. Next version is said to include support for shutter glasses as well as other modes. It could be more than a month, it could be less... only HE knows.

According to the previous beta labelling scheme,
the 1.09 beta drivers should be labeled something like : 1.08.xxxx

So maybe neil gave you a hint ?

"we are at debugging stage now - I think it will take 2-3 weeks from now" from BlackQ in the Questions/Answer thread.

Yes, I just read it this morning. Great news indeed!!

I cant wait for vr920 support!

I found that the IZ3D Driver and ATI Tray Tools don't like each other, in some games at least.

Battlefield 2 won't start if both are running. Same with EVE Online and some other games I don't remember right now.

I think I used IZ3D's bug reporting system to mention it when this version was released.

Also, the IZ3D's driver OSD doesn't show the same thing on my computer and my brother's. I don't get the trial timer on mine, which also has ATI Tray Tools Installed. I think the driver unlocked or something.

I'm also waiting on the VR920 support before I buy them. Or maybe I'll try making an hardware adapter.